COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

is_that_so · 16-02-2021 07:26PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

There's a degree of that alright but talk things down too much and you'll lose people's adherence to restrictions

They'll be OK on that for another few weeks. We'll see what March brings.

16-02-2021 07:35PM

marno21 wrote: »

Janssen are delivering 100m doses by end of June.

That’s 1.1m to Ireland. Which covers 1.1m people.

So in Q2 we’ll have 1.1m Janssen + Pfizer/Moderna/AstraZeneca. I believe we’re getting 2.4m from Pfizer, so that’s 2.3m between Pfizer and Janssen in Q2 alone plus whatever else we can manage with AstraZeneca and Moderna

Absolute bizarre stuff Pascal Donohue saying no staycations this summer today.

Where did you get this from?

is_that_so · 16-02-2021 07:38PM

AdamD wrote: »

Where did you get this from?

1.1% of 100m - our quota.

charlie14 · 16-02-2021 07:49PM

Yevon wrote: »

Seven Oaks dropped as a vaccination centre. I wonder if they dealt with their surprise more professionally instead of going to social media would that have turned out differently...

If they are then it is their own fault and will cost them money as well.
Heard some guy from the hotel saying if the vaccination center was there it would not affect the hotel being able to continue operating.
If they had any cop on they would have been on to the HSE asking what was need from them rather than going on social media

16-02-2021 07:52PM

is_that_so wrote: »

1.1% of 100m - our quota.

Sorry I meant the delivery by June bit

marno21 · 16-02-2021 07:54PM

AdamD wrote: »

Sorry I meant the delivery by June bit

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0216/1197496-j-j-vaccine-ema/

is_that_so · 16-02-2021 07:58PM

Not a vaccine likely to come our way but I hope it works out for them.

Researchers are working long shifts on Cuba's best shot to solve its coronavirus crisis: Soberana 2, the island's domestically-produced Covid-19 vaccine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56069577

16-02-2021 07:59PM

marno21 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0216/1197496-j-j-vaccine-ema/

I'll be accused of being a negative doom-monger but I think we've learnt by now to take these delivery schedules with a pinch of salt. All of those approved right now are behind on their delivery schedules as it stands. J & J have already had some manufacturing problems and European produced vaccine will be flown to the US for fill and finish.

We all hope they can deliver on their promises but clearly there are no guarantees on that front.

is_that_so · 16-02-2021 08:05PM

Yevon wrote: »

Seven Oaks dropped as a vaccination centre. I wonder if they dealt with their surprise more professionally instead of going to social media would that have turned out differently...

It looks like The Daily Mail is going after the plan, according to this.

https://kclr96fm.com/7oaks-not-confirmed-vac-centre/

Water John · 16-02-2021 08:26PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Not a vaccine likely to come our way but I hope it works out for them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56069577

Cuba has a good history on vaccines. They created a vaccine in the 1980s for a meningitis or hepatitis that affected children. The US prevented any countries taking it at the time. Remember Dr. David Hickey protesting about it.

Cork2021 · 16-02-2021 08:26PM

Are the UK Too ambitious??

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1361758610930491399?s=21

Water John · 16-02-2021 08:29PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Are the UK Too ambitious??

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1361758610930491399?s=21

No, we should have the same ambition.

is_that_so · 16-02-2021 08:31PM

Interesting FT article via the IT on what happened to the big 3 vaccine makers -Merck, GSK and Sanofi during this.

As pharmaceutical companies raced to develop Covid-19 vaccines, crossing the finishing line in record time, the world’s three biggest vaccine makers were also-rans.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/why-the-world-s-three-biggest-vaccine-makers-failed-on-covid-19-1.4486362

Danzy · 16-02-2021 08:38PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Are the UK Too ambitious??

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1361758610930491399?s=21

No, they are on target for that.

It wasn't anything unique, they just ordered in time, didn't delay in everything and every step.

As soon as it started becoming a political embarrassment in the EU and s problem for leaders like Merkel, they were told cop on and did.

JPup · 16-02-2021 08:40PM

Ireland's expected timeline is to have all adults vaccinated by the end of September, so only one month behind the UK. And our over 70s are getting better vaccines, so we're not necessarily doing worse overall.

Gael23 · 16-02-2021 09:05PM

How does the J&J vaccine work?

celt262 · 16-02-2021 09:12PM

Gael23 wrote: »

How does the J&J vaccine work?

Stick a needle in your arm and fill you with a nice juicy vaccine.

RugbyLad11 · 16-02-2021 09:22PM

JPup wrote: »

Ireland's expected timeline is to have all adults vaccinated by the end of September, so only one month behind the UK. And our over 70s are getting better vaccines, so we're not necessarily doing worse overall.

That's all adults vaccinated with one dose by September. The UK is aiming for two doses by August.

Micky 32 · 16-02-2021 09:24PM

celt262 wrote: »

Stick a needle in your arm and fill you with a nice juicy vaccine.

You forgot to add something ‘ and Bob’s your uncle’. :pac:

eoinbn · 16-02-2021 09:28PM

marno21 wrote: »

Janssen are delivering 100m doses by end of June.

That’s 1.1m to Ireland. Which covers 1.1m people.

So in Q2 we’ll have 1.1m Janssen + Pfizer/Moderna/AstraZeneca. I believe we’re getting 2.4m from Pfizer, so that’s 2.3m between Pfizer and Janssen in Q2 alone plus whatever else we can manage with AstraZeneca and Moderna

Absolute bizarre stuff Pascal Donohue saying no staycations this summer today.

1.1m is unlikely. J&J have said they will deliver 100m doses to the US by June. I don't think they have given a public estimate for the EU. The numbers I have seen but it closer to 60m for the EU in Q2.
I am pretty sure that Pfizer/BioNtech target is closer to 1.5m doses for Ireland in Q2. The 2.4m figure requires double dipping on the extra 75m doses which was announced in early January and again in early February.
It still puts us in a great position.

16-02-2021 09:30PM

Gael23 wrote: »

How does the J&J vaccine work?

It's a viral vector vaccine, uses human adenovirus type 26, which I think is also one of the vectors being used by Sputnik V.

Basically they take the genetic instruction the virus uses to code for the spike protein, they mix it with the viral vector, it enters your cells (but cannot replicate) and your body learns to produce antibodies that will fight the virus (along with T-cells, B-Cells).

noplacehere · 16-02-2021 09:40PM

Can anyone tell me if you get one vaccine is it possible to get another at a later date by a different manufacturer? From an efficacy perspective I mean. Like are they likely to interfere with each other or prevent use one after the other?

16-02-2021 09:44PM

noplacehere wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if you get one vaccine is it possible to get another at a later date by a different manufacturer? From an efficacy perspective I mean. Like are they likely to interfere with each other or prevent use one after the other?

No. All vaccines are designed to trigger immune response. A repeat trigger at worst does nothing, but more likely reinforces the initial response.

16-02-2021 09:45PM

noplacehere wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if you get one vaccine is it possible to get another at a later date by a different manufacturer? From an efficacy perspective I mean. Like are they likely to interfere with each other or prevent use one after the other?

It's unlikely it would cause any issues. The UK are currently conducting trials with mixed vaccines so we'll know for sure soon.

pawdee · 16-02-2021 10:02PM

So, if the plan is to have every adult in the country vaccinated by September (and presumably the over 70s long before that) when can a young person like myself (52) expect to get jabbed?

JPA · 16-02-2021 10:06PM

pawdee wrote: »

So, if the plan is to have every adult in the country vaccinated by September (and presumably the over 70s long before that) when can a young person like myself (52) expect to get jabbed?

Between May and September.

Water John · 16-02-2021 10:08PM

pawdee wrote: »

So, if the plan is to have every adult in the country vaccinated by September (and presumably the over 70s long before that) when can a young person like myself (52) expect to get jabbed?

Over 70s will be finished by Mid May. I think you'll be about July/August.
Post 159 here is a good ref point, in relation to the groups. Think the rate will be higher once we get going fully. All depends on vaccine availability.

eoinbn · 16-02-2021 10:14PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

That's all adults vaccinated with one dose by September. The UK is aiming for two doses by August.

We should have enough vaccines to fully vaccinated all adults by the end of July. The problem is timing. If someone receives an AZ vaccine in early July then they need to wait until October to get the booster for fully benefit.

Stark · 16-02-2021 10:39PM

eoinbn wrote: »

We should have enough vaccines to fully vaccinated all adults by the end of July. The problem is timing. If someone receives an AZ vaccine in early July then they need to wait until October to get the booster for fully benefit.

Given some of the numbers I've seen, the first dose is probably plenty of protection for the 18-54 with no underlying conditions group.

User142 · 16-02-2021 10:42PM

marno21 wrote: »

Absolute bizarre stuff Pascal Donohue saying no staycations this summer today.

In December Vardakar told us we would hit critical vaccination numbers in March. That this lockdown would be shorter than than Lockdown 2.

Clearly FG have switched tact to copy the current BoJo tactic of "underpromise and overdeliver".

I can't blame them but the switch from overpromising to give people hope last month to now under promising is going to wreck people's spirits.

Nothing FG say in the present about lockdown measures in the future should be given much weight.

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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