Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

BlowHard wrote: »

Very high deaths again and overall numbers not going down fast enough.

Half the deaths of the previous Tuesday shows the massive progress that is being made.

manofwisdom wrote: »

Good drop on reported deaths from the previous 4 Tuesdays. 68,101,90 and 93

7-day average in cases 889 compared to last Tuesday 945.

Tomorrow could be the first Wednesday to not have over 1000 cases since December 23rd?

Well thats a jinx if ever I heard one.

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Hi all

Can anyone tell me what the rule is regarding 'bubbles'?

My dad lives 20km away and lives alone. I've not formed a bubble with anyone else and would like to go and see him.

Is this allowed? Can't believe I am typing this

Travel restrictions

Domestic

People are required to stay at home except for travel for work, education or other essential purposes, and will be permitted to take exercise within 5km of home.

You can travel for the following reasons:

travel to and from work, where work involves providing an essential service
teachers, SNAs and other school staff will be allowed to travel to school to facilitate distance learning
to attend medical appointments and collect medicines and other health products
travel to attend disability day services
travel to attend a court
for vital family reasons, such as providing care to children, elderly or vulnerable people, and in particular for those who live alone, but excluding social family visits
for food shopping
for farming purposes (food production or care of animals)
to attend a wedding or funeral
to visit a grave


What a support bubble is

To support those who risk isolation, you can form a bubble with 1 other household (of any size) in certain situations.

You can then act as one extended household.

You must still keep physical distance from people outside your support bubble.

Who can form a support bubble

You can form a support bubble with another household if you:
are living alone with children under the age of 18
live alone
share parenting or custody arrangements
live with an adult you provide care for (for example a dependent adult relation or a partner with dementia)
live by yourself and have a carer or carers who support you, including a live-in carer

Wherever possible, you should choose a household in your locality to form your support bubble. The reason for this is to prevent the spread of COVID-19 between areas that might have lots of cases and areas that have low numbers of cases.


Thats the guidance from the government up to yourself if you want to follow it.



Shin

Lovely afternoon in St Annes park here in D5.
Great to see kids playing on the pitches again and enjoying themselves. Hurling, soccer and in the distance some lad with a rugby ball.
Think he might have been an Irish international as he was practising all of Irelands preplanned attack moves .... kicking the ball in the air and running after it.

gozunda wrote: »

Poster is not wrong. Hospital figures have been averaging 50% of all of covid related hospitalisations being under 64 and approx 50% over 65 wth some small variations

From most recent report on Hospitalisation by age current figures show:

51.29% over 65

48.62 under 64

So yeah pretty much what the poster detailed

https://i.imgflip.com/4y7wwc.jpg

See column on cases hospitalised (%)

Source

Full data since last March is 55% over 65 and 45% under 65. That is not 50%. If it was 50% then the UK would still be in the EU. In better weather with risks reduced by 90% (older and vulnerable vaccinated) then the health service will manage and that is with indoor hospitality closed.

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Full data since last March is 55% over 65 and 45% under 65. That is not 50%. If it was 50% then the UK would still be in the EU. In better weather with risks reduced by 90% (older and vulnerable vaccinated) then the health service will manage and that is with indoor hospitality closed.

~50% is the most recent report (past 2 weeks), you can pick and choose what ever figure you like, but you stated once all 65+ are vaccinated the hospitals would cope. Now you're changing the goal posts and saying 65+ and vulnerable (18-64) vaccinated.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Come off it! That's a bizarre comment.

I took it as a thrust of black humour- I think we can safely take it that no one rejoices in hearing about C19 deaths or thinks anyone else does. Surely that's a bedrock assumption.
I'm not averse to a blast of BH myself- strangely I find it can work when one is confronted by a dire situation.
I fully appreciate though that it's not everyone's cup of cocoa.

Wolf359f wrote: »

~50% is the most recent report (past 2 weeks), you can pick and choose what ever figure you like, but you stated once all 65+ are vaccinated the hospitals would cope. Now you're changing the goal posts and saying 65+ and vulnerable (18-64) vaccinated.

I think a figure that dates back to last March (11 months) is fairly robust. I have a series of posts here in which I have supported the current restrictions and think they are needed for some time to come, but also think we need to gradually re open and we will be ok as most vulnerable will be protected.

Bananaleaf wrote: »

I just wasn't sure if it was allowed and I didn't want to get a fine and turned back for my troubles if it's not allowed. People were going running in a park that is located 1km outside of our 5k radius and they were fined and sent home. I know that's not the same as going to see my dad, but I'm just not sure what you can and can't do anymore. I was very good at keeping on top of the restrictions at the beginning, but I genuinely can't keep track anymore.

Glad to see you're going to visit him. It would want to be a bad cop to argue with you once you explained the situation.

But have to say its a terrible indictment of the government that we have citizens who are so unsure and flustered by the rules that they are terrified of being fined, so much so that they won't visit one of their parents who lives alone a mere 20km away.

Deleted User wrote: »

Has the british varient made much impact on the continent

European countries indicate the following proportions of B.1.1.7
among all cases sequenced in recent weeks:
Denmark 27% [13], France 13.2% (based on ThermoFisher scientific screening, before sequencing confirmation) [14], Germany 5.6% [15], Ireland 75%, Italy 17.8% [16], the Netherlands >30% [17], Poland 9%, Portugal 45%, Spain 0.453% (depending on the region) [18], Sweden 11%[19].
These figures vary in terms of sampling strategy used, time-period covered and screening method and, therefore, cannot be directly compared. In countries carrying out sequencing during recent weeks, the proportion of B.1.1.7 cases among all sequenced cases appears to be almost doubling each week, strongly suggesting that the variant is on course to become more dominant than the strains previously circulating in the EU.

source:
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/RRA-covid-19-14th-update-15-feb-2021.pdf

highlight be me

alentejo wrote: »

Are the UK covid figures dropping like a stone over the past week or so? I think UK covid figures are less than Ireland at the moment.

I haven't 7 or 5 day averages to hand but they had more new cases per 1M than us today.