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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    big syke wrote: »
    Like are you actually serious?

    It is nonsense beacause it proves you are talking absolute tripe.

    What are your qualifications and why does it matter?

    I'm not the one questioning the ONS's methods or results.

    I wouldn't dream of it. I'm not qualified to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,055 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Does Micheál Martin have no empathy with people who are suffering because of the lockdown because of mental health problems or loss of livelihood or both?

    Given that he is a bereaved parent, his stance is difficult to comprehend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Well, I must admit that's a new one on me. Obese people running marathons. Forget that cardio slog - weights all the way, I say.

    Super-obese men LOVE running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Does Micheál Martin have no empathy with people who are suffering because of the lockdown because of mental health problems or loss of livelihood or both?

    Given that he is a bereaved parent, his stance is difficult to comprehend.
    Eh, what's he done now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Why are our hospitals not full with long covid patients right now. If they were rte would be all over it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Does Micheál Martin have no empathy with people who are suffering because of the lockdown because of mental health problems or loss of livelihood or both?

    Given that he is a bereaved parent, his stance is difficult to comprehend.

    It's what Nphet want, nothing to do with the government anymore. They are cowards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why are our hospitals not full with long covid patients right now. If they were rte would be all over it.

    It generally doesn't require hospitalisation. There's very little that they can do for them. In fact most will never been hospitalised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,055 ✭✭✭political analyst


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Eh, what's he done now?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0211/1196423-politics-covid-restrictions/
    Taoiseach Micheál Martin has said the Government is looking at a continuation of a high level of restrictions to the Easter period.

    He said that remains to be determined by Government, which is revising the Living with Covid Plan, adding that the week commencing 20 February will bring clarity.

    Easter Sunday falls on 4 April this year.

    The Taoiseach said the RTÉ Investigates programme this week revealed the extraordinary pressures faced by healthcare staff during the third wave of the pandemic and those pressures have to be relieved.

    "We don't want that situation happening again in our hospitals," he said.

    Moving to Level 4 in March would not make the situation any worse than it is at the moment.

    Why does the government not have as much concern for small-business owners now as it did for farmers during the foot-and-mouth outbreak?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    It generally doesn't require hospitalisation. There's very little that they can do for them. In fact most will never been hospitalised.

    How do you know this? Are you an expert and what are your qualifications?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    It generally doesn't require hospitalisation. There's very little that they can do for them. In fact most will never been hospitalised.

    How do we know this for a disease only a year old. Well at least we don't need to worry about it overwhelming our hospital system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0211/1196423-politics-covid-restrictions/



    Moving to Level 4 in March would not make the situation any worse than it is at the moment.

    Why does the government not have as much concern for small-business owners now as it did for farmers during the foot-and-mouth outbreak?
    Ah that. Sure he has no idea but he doesn't want us to get ideas, now. We'll see in March!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 acork


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Eh, what's he done now?

    Just one of them announcements: "Don't plan your life until 2022, maybe.."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    is_that_so wrote: »

    I'm sure whoever is paying Kit Yates wages believes they are getting value for money.
    A can of 'Covid Zero'.


  • Posts: 232 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Does Micheál Martin have no empathy with people who are suffering because of the lockdown because of mental health problems or loss of livelihood or both?

    He is certainly giving every indication that he is thoroughly enjoying the power to rule by decree.

    It's very hard, when given the power over every aspect over people's lives, to relinquish that power. It's now clear that power has gone to his head, and he and his only real friend within FF - the Minister for Health - are egging each other on to be ever more extreme, knowing neither of them will ever have to face the electorate again.

    Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And a Taoiseach ruling by decree who has sidelined our elected Dáil has absolute power.

    Someone within FF has to end this madness. It's clear the Taoiseach has lost the run of himself.

    But more: lessons have to be learned from this. We have to amend the Constitution so that any Government which takes upon itself the right to rule by decree without going through Dáil Éireann has to call a General Election within a year.

    Micheál Martin is finished. It's not about him any more. We can never allow one single man to take it upon himself to make every single social, health and economic decision in the State again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    b0nk1e wrote: »
    But more: lessons have to be learned from this. We have to amend the Constitution so that any Government which takes upon itself the right to rule by decree without going through Dáil Éireann has to call a General Election within a year.
    No, we're covered there already and it was 5 months! If there is no possibility of agreement the Taoiseach goes to the Aras with a request to have another election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why are our hospitals not full with long covid patients right now.

    8,000 people in Ireland have MS why aren't the hospitals full with MS patients right now?

    (Insert any chronic illness into the above question.)

    Let's see how many various waiting lists for appointments and scans long covid patients take up before being so dismissive.

    Even if long covid affects a fraction of a percentage of the population it is an EXTRA burden on health care. The greater the amount of people affected the greater that burden will be.

    Hopefully it'll be minimal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    b0nk1e wrote: »
    Ah yeah, you're right enough. Who can forget President Hu Jintao travelling around China and Ireland proclaiming how Irish he was. "The most Irish president since Li Xiannian", some called him.

    The Taoiseach says he's "going to get vaccinated" for the trip.

    Has he identified exactly which of our vulnerable people is going to have to be put down the list so he can get his photo taken with President Biden?

    Can we all "go to get vaccinated" now?

    Or is it "house arrest for you; vaccination and foreign trip for me"?

    There is no one under house arrest you clown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    niallo27 wrote: »
    How do we know this for a disease only a year old. Well at least we don't need to worry about it overwhelming our hospital system.

    You really have no idea of our health care systems work do you? I actually envy you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    There is no one under house arrest you clown.

    Calling a poster names adds what to the discussion?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭Benimar


    52 deaths

    866 cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    There is no one under house arrest you clown.

    But then we're not a million miles away from it either. Since there is nothing and no one you're supposed to go to. Except for Lidl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Benimar wrote: »
    52 deaths

    866 cases

    RIP

    Decent case numbers for a Thursday

    We're making progress with cases so far this week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Calling a poster names adds what to the discussion?
    It adds clarity, that ridiculous hyperbole will be called out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭johndanielmoore


    b0nk1e wrote: »
    And if Micheál Martin goes to the United States for a meeting which could quite easily be done over Zoom, public adherence to his restrictions will have crumbled by the time the Six One airs.
    That's the reason I hope he'll go. It'll put an end to this charade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Dear George Lee, a pin stripe suit does not go with a large pattern tie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,286 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Missed the end of the last few graphs on the briefing again...Phillip's head in the way :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    Dear George Lee, a pin stripe suit does not go with a large pattern tie

    :D:D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Dear George Lee, a pin stripe suit does not go with a large pattern tie

    I thought a pin stripe suit was associated with banks and Anglo in particular.


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