What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

'Properly'

Thanks Prof...

Deleted User wrote: »

Meanwhile, Trumpists in the Biden thread are complaining that Biden hasn't ended the pandemic yet and will put their fingers in their ears for this report.

Thanos would have ended it. SHould have vote for Thanos.

extra gravy wrote: »

Fascinating watch. One of the diplomat's comments "how do we forge a relationship with this strange creature" summed it up. He really was a laughing stock on the world stage and a dangerous one at that.

Watched it this evening myself, I wonder will anyone admit they were laughing at Trump that time when the mic caught them.

duploelabs wrote: »

Do you mean the time when trump was laughed at when addressing the UN?

Yeah and Macron, Tredeau and a couple of others were in a huddle.

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

They just don't..

https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/1359990977046355971?s=19

Give a fcuk!!

Let's hope they don't show up for the vote

duploelabs wrote: »

Let's hope they don't show up for the vote

They'll be there, with bells, whistles and MAGA hats/Trump flags.

Good piece in the Sunday Times magazine last week about Trump and his last few months. Namely, the November election result day to his leaving of office. Many of his political allies who would have stuck with him through it all drew the line at Jan 6th being the point of no return.

Whatever about the rest fading to memory as it seemed there were so many controversies in his tenure that people just accepted and forgot them as they came.

But Jan 6th and provoking his base to attack the very institution which he represents and represents America is not something that is a pill most can't swallow. He'll be remembered as the president who started an attempted insurrection.

Question is not what happens to Trump but what comes after Trump. That base of supporters are looking for their next extreme personality and there are plenty cut of the same fabric as Trump waiting.

chrissb8 wrote: »

That base of supporters are looking for their next extreme personality and there are plenty cut of the same fabric as Trump waiting.

Nah, Trump is one of a kind. When the dust settles and the history is written, he'll be like Caligula or George III, an insane person who had power thrust on him by freak circumstances.

The arguments made by the Managers are more than sufficient to convince any self respecting person that Trump should be convicted.

There is a specific and direct line between the kind of behaviour he encouraged in his supporters over the past 5 years, the rhetoric he used surrounding the election, what was said on the 6th, what was tweeted on the 6th, and his reaction and inaction on the day and indeed since.

It is truly an open and shut case.

If this is not impeachable, then nothing is - they might as well remove the process from the Constitution.

If a Democrat in the future was impeached and it came to the trial, they would be justified in walking in dressed in clown outfits on unicycles, juggling and throwing pies in each others faces. That's how seriously the Republicans are taking this. That will be what the impeachment remedy has become. It is what this whole process will mean if Trump is acquitted.

That's the thing Joe.

He did p*ss off his own party.

No one was more loyal to Trump than Pence, and he threw him *and his family* under the bus.

What they still fail to understand is that they are completely at risk of Trump turning on them at any stage. He treats them and the party with contempt.

It appears to me that Trump is still perpetrating the crime of the big lie. Another reason why he should be convicted. He is ensuring that anyone that votes to convict will probably face a challenge from one of his MTG clones and they are scared sh1tless.

God forbid anyone of them put the Country ahead of their own political career.

briany wrote: »

There will be many politicians who'll try to emulate Trump but it's a more difficult trick than it appears. Just getting on the stump and parroting the greatest hits isn't really going to cut it. They need the feral cunning, the bellicose ignorance, the standing (at least in the eyes of Joe Public) as a true outsider to Washington, the verbal street fighting, the cult of celebrity, the surrounding iconography of Trump (i.e. you're never going to get supporters wearing Ted Cruz false beards, but you have seen them wearing Trump wigs). No one else can really replace Trump in the Trumpist mold. Now, you could of course get someone coming along who creates their own political movement, but even then, I really doubt that it will be anyone currently propping up Trump himself. These kinds of demagogues and populists come from outside Washington, as their rise tends to be buoyed up by a dissatisfaction with 'the system', so it won't be Hawley or Cruz et al, imo.

This lady started her strategy to get her to the White House literally years ago.
Former State House Representative and then Governor who first was critical of Trump but then got on board with him and was appointed as his ambassador to the UN. (She's the one who told the UN that 'we are taking names' when the recognition of Jerusalem was being discussed). She resigned less than 2 years later. She then continued to support Trump through the media since them, right up until the inauguration.

Today, she starts the next phase of her strategy, distancing herself from him.

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1360209708750147585

Her biggest competitor in 2024 will be Mike Pence I reckon. I think Ted Cruz, DeSantis and others won't, compete with these two.

And if she were to be competing against Biden or Harris in 2024? GOP will claim they have always been about empowering women and now is the time for the first female President of the USA. They will say that as the child of an immigrant, she is the type of success story they have always been proud to support. She has previously supported the flying of the confederate flag so 'those people' are going to see an ally. Lindsey Graham has said she is a strong supporter of Israel and she has said she supports voter id at polling stations.

Don't be surprised if we are looking at Priti Patel and President Haley being the 'new and improved' versions of Trump and Johnson in 5-10 years time.

briany wrote: »

There will be many politicians who'll try to emulate Trump but it's a more difficult trick than it appears. Just getting on the stump and parroting the greatest hits isn't really going to cut it. They need the feral cunning, the bellicose ignorance, the standing (at least in the eyes of Joe Public) as a true outsider to Washington, the verbal street fighting, the cult of celebrity, the surrounding iconography of Trump (i.e. you're never going to get supporters wearing Ted Cruz false beards, but you have seen them wearing Trump wigs). No one else can really replace Trump in the Trumpist mold. Now, you could of course get someone coming along who creates their own political movement, but even then, I really doubt that it will be anyone currently propping up Trump himself. These kinds of demagogues and populists come from outside Washington, as their rise tends to be buoyed up by a dissatisfaction with 'the system', so it won't be Hawley or Cruz et al, imo.

Agree,think is way too simplistic to think it was only Trumps right wing ideology that attracted his large support.It was as much his brand marketing ,the tacky glitz and gaudy glamour that played as big a part.He was a one off and it will be extremely hard for any imitator to step into those shoes.

dublin49 wrote: »

Trump was the clown in the cockpit,everyone hoped he wouldnt touch any of the controls ,the plane has thankfully now landed ,albeit roughly ,the fear and dread is he might somehow get back into the cockpit and we mightnt get so lucky the second time.

Relax. He won't even be allowed into the airport.

Trump, as a pilot, is finished. He blew it because he was singularly unfit for the role and imploded in a mess.

In any case, his only real political option is that of a third party candidate. And that will only hand the Democrats the White House again, with much less effort of their behalf, because he'll end up taking the most stupid part of Republican support with him.

stefanovich wrote: »

At least now Biden is in office the US can get back to the business of war.

By withdrawing of arm sales to the uae and the Saudis?