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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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    #1412
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Afghanistan - Iraq - North Korea - Israel - must I go on?

    North Korea upscaled their icbm testing and development during the trump administration, so that's a swing and a miss.
    Iraq withdraw was down to the soloumani assassination.
    Israel?? I didn't thing they'd troops there


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    #1413
    [Deleted User]
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    Obama was the king of drone strikes...

    How did they actively hide it? A guardian writer's ESP doesn't count as proof.

    No, Trump was.
    There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

    He then revoked the policy to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

    Even if Trump somehow did zero drone strikes after this policy was revoked, he still did more drone strikes in his first two years of presidency than Obama did in his two terms as president.


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    #1414
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Eh, he almost started a war with Iran and destabilised Iraq too via it. Drone strikes didn't go down. It was under his watch that MOAB was used and he armed the Saudis and boasted about doing so to boot. Also outright pulling out troops tends to destabilised regions. So vaguely pretending he's a peacemaker is nonsense.

    Oh, he also egged on people who are now up on terror charges over the Capitol Insurrection. So he created both domestic and international instability.

    "The capitol insurrection" please, I've watched some of that fictional drama on CNN. What a joke.

    Nearly started at war?? So he didn't then... Unlike Obama


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    #1415
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Obama was the king of drone strikes...

    How did they actively hide it? A guardian writer's ESP doesn't count as proof.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-47480207

    Will the BBC do?

    What about politico

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/03/06/trump-civilian-deaths-drone-strikes-1207409


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    #1416
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    North Korea upscaled their icbm testing and development during the trump administration, so that's a swing and a miss.
    Iraq withdraw was down to the soloumani assassination.
    Israel?? I didn't thing they'd troops there

    He was actively trying to deescalate.


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    #1417
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    He was actively trying to deescalate.

    Citation or is that just your opinion man


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    #1418
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,053 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I see some Trump worshippers are still desperately clutching to their false narratives.

    How sad.


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    #1419
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    "The capitol insurrection" please, I've watched some of that fictional drama on CNN. What a joke.

    Nearly started at war?? So he didn't then... Unlike Obama

    Can you specify which war Obama started? Also multiple people up on terror charges for the Insurrection so the facts are on my side.


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    #1420
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Citation or is that just your opinion man

    Did you notice that he went to North Korea? Did you notice he was bring US troops home?


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    #1421
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I see some Trump worshippers are still desperately clutching to their false narratives.

    How sad.

    Nursing at the teat.

    'bitty mummy'


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    #1422
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can you specify which war Obama started? Also multiple people up on terror charges for the Insurrection so the facts are on my side.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-s-libya-war-was-an-illegal-disaster-but-at-least-he-owned-the-cons/ar-BB1bjUOG


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    #1423
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Did you notice that he went to North Korea? Did you notice he was bring US troops home?

    Again, have you citation? Or are you just going to continue sh!t posting your delusional twaddle


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    #1424
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Again, have you citation? Or are you just going to continue sh!t posting your delusional twaddle

    Did he or did he not go to North Korea and meet Kim? Do you want a link? Did you miss that?


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    #1425
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,118 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Watching hearing. Seriously, Trump's lawyer thinks they meant Calvary?


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    #1426
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Did he or did he not go to North Korea and meet Kim? Do you want a link? Did you miss that?

    That just serve to embolden NK missile program, you do realise that it made the situation worse and testing increased?


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    #1427
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.


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    #1428
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Did he or did he not go to North Korea and meet Kim? Do you want a link? Did you miss that?


    That only legitimised and benefited Kim. It bought him time and all Trump got out of it was a beautiful letter.


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    #1429
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

    Based on what??

    Oh you're out, quell surprise!


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    #1430
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,522 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    stefanovich wrote: »
    We are talking war here.

    Ok, you go ahead with your selective view on his Presidency. Others have pointed out the weakness in that argument already.


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    #1431
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,118 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Wow Trump's lawyer is bad. Deflect, gaslight, lie, dredge up Trump whining points.


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    #1432
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Based on what??

    Oh you're out, quell surprise!

    You are rabid dogs in here. Not worth the energy.


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    #1433
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

    You've based that on nothing. You seemed quite upset about Obama's war efforts, incorrectly labelling him the "king of drone strikes", and yet even though I pointed out to you that Trump did more drone strikes in two years than Obama did in eight years it doesn't seem to have changed your opinion about Obama, Biden or Trump.


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    #1434
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    stefanovich wrote: »
    You are rabid dogs in here. Not worth the energy.

    Oh, so your horsecr@p got shown up for what it is and now you're all upset.

    Thoughts and prayers


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    #1435
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-s-libya-war-was-an-illegal-disaster-but-at-least-he-owned-the-cons/ar-BB1bjUOG

    The US didn't really start the Libya conflict though. It was a civil war which multiple states got involved in. So it's far from true to say the US started it...

    And you've so far made conclusions about the biden administration based on things he hasn't even done. While at the same time ignoring how Trump escalated the Iran situation which had improved under Obama...


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    #1436
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The US didn't really start the Libya conflict though. It was a civil war which multiple states got involved in. So it's far from true to say the US started it...

    And you've so far made conclusions about the biden administration based on things he hasn't even done. While at the same time ignoring how Trump escalated the Iran situation which had improved under Obama...
    Biden has been in politics for 40 years and was VP. He’s done a lot.
    Anyway I’m really out this time.


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    #1437
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,053 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    stefanovich wrote: »
    My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

    :pac:

    You wander into the thread, try to spread a bit of already debunked propaganda which gets countered (again), and then you run away all indignant.


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    #1438
    cj maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,620 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I think what Trump has done by entering politics is to paint a big target on himself. I fully expect a load of dirt , both politically and personal to come out and totally discredit him


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    #1439
    alchemist33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    stefanovich wrote: »
    My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

    Believe me, hatred for Trump is very rational indeed.


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    #1440
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    stefanovich wrote: »
    You are rabid dogs in here. Not worth the energy.

    I enjoyed this post :D


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    #1441
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    cj maxx wrote: »
    and totally discredit him

    In the eyes of whom?

    His critics? He's already held in low esteem amongst that group.

    His supporters? If Trump murdered a baby on live TV they'd still back him.

    Nothing would change.


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