Are people going to be smart over Easter

mullinr2 · 10-02-2021 12:59pm #1

We really need to be smart over the Easter holidays. Schools will only be open for a couple of weeks and then Easter holidays begin. If people are not smart and start having family gatherings over Easter and the case numbers increase again, schools will be closed for the rest of the academic year.
All restrictions should remain in place except maybe construction until at least early May.
We just can't have schools closed from December to September.
Be smart people.

Mongfinder General · 10-02-2021 1:02pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

We really need to be smart over the Easter holidays. Schools will only be open for a couple of weeks and then Easter holidays begin. If people are not smart and start having family gatherings over Easter and the case numbers increase again, schools will be closed for the rest of the academic year.
All restrictions should remain in place except maybe construction until at least early May.
We just can't have schools closed from December to September.
Be smart people.

The 5 March date is no accident. I think we’re looking at another month of restrictions to 5 April. Easter Monday.

Delighted Paddy’s Day is cancelled again. Absolute scum fest.

We saw what happened at Christmas. If some of these people had two brains they’d be twice as thick.

landofthetree · 10-02-2021 1:05pm

Why not keep everything closed till May 2024 just to be sure.

doublejobbing 2 · 10-02-2021 1:07pm

Because we won't have thousands of infected ex pats returning from London because of ma mEnTaL hElThz, no, I can't see any noticeable upswing.

As the previous poster said, I reckon inter county travel, at least, will be banned until just after it.

If travel really is properly clamped down on our cases really could be through the floor by then. At which point Mehole and Leo should be put on trial for criminal negligence as it becomes blatantly obvious that what they said was impossible last summer could have wiped this thing out in weeks.

I've given up on these eejits frankly, I'd be more inclined to keep an eye on when the North pubs are re opening and head there on an all dayer every other weekend.

mullinr2 · 10-02-2021 1:07pm

landofthetree wrote: »

Why not keep everything closed till May 2024 just to be sure.

You obviously don't have kids

Sexual Chocolate · 10-02-2021 1:24pm

Mongfinder General wrote: »

The 5 March date is no accident. I think we’re looking at another month of restrictions to 5 April. Easter Monday.

Delighted Paddy’s Day is cancelled again. Absolute scum fest.

We saw what happened at Christmas. If some of these people had two brains they’d be twice as thick.

Will they have cooperation of people to go that long ? 3 solid months of severe restrictions that would be.

At least if they rolled back to level 4 it would be a slight relief.

Palmach · 10-02-2021 1:43pm

landofthetree wrote: »

Why not keep everything closed till May 2024 just to be sure.

Don't give the saddos ideas. I have a family gathering planned for Easter. If the HSE is too incompetent to have over 65s vaccinated by then it's not my problem.

mullinr2 · 10-02-2021 1:53pm

Palmach wrote: »

Don't give the saddos ideas. I have a family gathering planned for Easter. If the HSE is too incompetent to have over 65s vaccinated by then it's not my problem.

My point proven, there are still clowns out there

Hellrazer · 10-02-2021 2:08pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

My point proven, there are still clowns out there

Yep the ones advocating lock downs for another 2 months.

LessOutragePlz · 10-02-2021 2:26pm

Palmach wrote: »

Don't give the saddos ideas. I have a family gathering planned for Easter. If the HSE is too incompetent to have over 65s vaccinated by then it's not my problem.

How dare you make plans for living your life and enjoying it with others!

mullinr2 · 10-02-2021 2:28pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

Yep the ones advocating lock downs for another 2 months.

in order for schools to remain open from April to end of school year. What do you think is going to happen if we allow barbers, restaurants etc to reopen over Easter. A resurgence in case numbers followed by another Lockdown and school closures.

the purple tin · 10-02-2021 2:28pm

Would never really have thought of Easter as family/friends gathering sort of occasion anyway

It's just an excuse for a choc-fest

bucketybuck · 10-02-2021 2:30pm

Lock everybody up until at least next January, and then move to a level 4 with modifications.

Also, give grants to help install pillows and mini fridges for those who have become addicted to hiding under their beds.

Real Donald Trump · 10-02-2021 2:31pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

We really need to be smart over the Easter holidays. Schools will only be open for a couple of weeks and then Easter holidays begin. If people are not smart and start having family gatherings over Easter and the case numbers increase again, schools will be closed for the rest of the academic year.
All restrictions should remain in place except maybe construction until at least early May.
We just can't have schools closed from December to September.
Be smart people.

Yes Tony

bucketybuck · 10-02-2021 2:32pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

What do you think is going to happen if we allow barbers, restaurants etc to reopen over Easter.

Sweet **** all.

The likes of Barbers are insignificant compared to other vectors of transmission.

greensausage · 10-02-2021 2:33pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

in order for schools to remain open from April to end of school year. What do you think is going to happen if we allow barbers, restaurants etc to reopen over Easter. A resurgence in case numbers followed by another Lockdown and school closures.

Why the focus on only schools staying open?? lots of people work in the industries you mentioned isn't it just as important they are allowed to get back asap?
Also once schools do open your going to see a rise in the numbers just as you did last august.

Hellrazer · 10-02-2021 2:36pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

in order for schools to remain open from April to end of school year. What do you think is going to happen if we allow barbers, restaurants etc to reopen over Easter. A resurgence in case numbers followed by another Lockdown and school closures.

Oh stop will you. Cases will be below 150 and probably lower on the 5th March. Most of the frontline staff and care home clients over 75 or will be vaccinated by then or at least on the way to being vaccinated.

There is no need to keep us locked up like this.

Only the people that will swallow anything Mehole / Donnelly / Leo and Holohan throw at us are enjoying these lockdowns or advocating them.

10-02-2021 2:36pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

in order for schools to remain open from April to end of school year. What do you think is going to happen if we allow barbers, restaurants etc to reopen over Easter. A resurgence in case numbers followed by another Lockdown and school closures.

Restaurants are not going to resume trade over Easter, anyone with their ear to the ground can deduce that. And there won't be tens of thousands travelling over from Britain either like Christmas. People who blame the hospitality sector miss the point, and conveniently overlook the fact that traditional pubs didn't reopen at all in December. There really isn't much to substantiate your theory of another lockdown thankfully, when we exit this one the jig is up for the misery lobby.

Hellrazer · 10-02-2021 2:39pm

bucketybuck wrote: »

Sweet **** all.

The likes of Barbers are insignificant compared to other vectors of transmission.

At the minute the main vectors for transmission are hospitals - sure why dont we close them for 3 months???

Its definitely not barbers / hairdressers / clothes shops / etc.

Its not even pubs or restaurants or even international travel.

Its always something else except what the government has control over ie hospitals / nursing homes.

Mongfinder General · 10-02-2021 2:53pm

greensausage wrote: »

Why the focus on only schools staying open?? lots of people work in the industries you mentioned isn't it just as important they are allowed to get back asap?
Also once schools do open your going to see a rise in the numbers just as you did last august.

You’re having a laugh here. You can’t expect my missus to put her phone down for more than 5 minutes and be an active parent. Children need baby sitters, I mean teachers.

Richard Hillman · 10-02-2021 2:58pm

Being smart is weighing up the risk towards moving back to normal. And by Easter we should be back to normal. The over 70s will be mostly vaccinated and the risk for everyone else is miniscule.

I think the March 5th date should be brought forward. And over 70s to be put into level 5 restrictions, whilst the rest of us roll on as normal. They owe it to us. We gave up a year of our lives and economic oblivion for them. They can bunker down for a couple of months until vaccinated.

iamwhoiam · 10-02-2021 3:02pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Being smart is weighing up the risk towards moving back to normal. And by Easter we should be back to normal. The over 70s will be mostly vaccinated and the risk for everyone else is miniscule.

I think the March 5th date should be brought forward. And over 70s to be put into level 5 restrictions, whilst the rest of us roll on as normal. They owe it to us. We gave up a year of our lives and economic oblivion for them. They can bunker down for a couple of months until vaccinated.

Thanks a million . ( rolls eyes )
. I would actually quite like to go for a walk on the beach and drive within my county . Over 70 are not stupid they can risk asses their own situations and be careful and cautious without being in L 5 restrictions

Ficheall · 10-02-2021 3:36pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

At the minute the main vectors for transmission are hospitals - sure why dont we close them for 3 months???

Its definitely not barbers / hairdressers / clothes shops / etc.

Its not even pubs or restaurants or even international travel.

Its always something else except what the government has control over ie hospitals / nursing homes.

People need hospitals. They don't actually need haircuts, pubs, restaurants, or international travel. Some clothing is necessary, sure, but most clothes shopping is discretionary.

latency89 · 10-02-2021 3:38pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

My point proven, there are still clowns out there

I've had Covid already thanks to those clowns not locking down borders

I will be enjoying my easter, i'm a threat to no one if immunity exists

ceadaoin. · 10-02-2021 3:44pm

Ficheall wrote: »

People need hospitals. They don't actually need haircuts, pubs, restaurants, or international travel. Some clothing is necessary, sure, but most clothes shopping is discretionary.

Ffs. All people truly "need" is water and a basic foodstuff to survive. Why not just have make everyone stay inside, china style, and the government deliver this (and maybe some sackcloth to cover the necessary clothing) . Anyone caught on the streets shot on sight. That will sort it.

Amirani · 10-02-2021 3:45pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

At the minute the main vectors for transmission are hospitals - sure why dont we close them for 3 months???

You might not have family receiving critical healthcare in hospital, good for you. Many of the rest of us do, so we'd rather keep hospitals open thanks.

Sorry you can't get a haircut instead, how tough it must be for you. :rolleyes:

Ficheall · 10-02-2021 3:50pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ffs. All people truly "need" is water and a basic foodstuff to survive. Why not just have make everyone stay inside, china style, and the government deliver this (and maybe some sackcloth to cover the necessary clothing) . Anyone caught on the streets shot on sight. That will sort it.

The way some people are complaining about our "lockdown", you'd swear that was happening already, but aye, I suppose your solution would have us covid-free in a month or two, if they were then prepared to take steps to stop us reimporting it (yes, I know, the border, etc..)

WallyGUFC · 10-02-2021 3:52pm

Amirani wrote: »

You might not have family receiving critical healthcare in hospital, good for you. Many of the rest of us do, so we'd rather keep hospitals open thanks.

Sorry you can't get a haircut instead, how tough it must be for you. :rolleyes:

It's not all about haircuts. 25% of adults are out of work because of this with nothing to do from one day to the next. Why does every argument from pro-lockdown people have to come down to "you don't need a haircut", "you don't need a pint", "you don't need a holiday this year" etc. etc. etc.

Why are Covid deaths more important than all other deaths? Why are we looking at restrictions after the vulnerable have been vaccinated?

Hellrazer · 10-02-2021 3:52pm

Amirani wrote: »

You might not have family receiving critical healthcare in hospital, good for you. Many of the rest of us do, so we'd rather keep hospitals open thanks.

Sorry you can't get a haircut instead, how tough it must be for you. :rolleyes:

You do know that was sarcastic dont you?

As for the haircut - I can do without that but Ill be first one in the ryanair queue when these restrictions are lifted.

growleaves · 10-02-2021 3:54pm

Since they're talking about closing down next winter, if we stay closed down for the first four months of the year we're talking about roughly 2/3rds of the year in lockdown.

Unheard of for the Black Death, Spanish Flu etc.

You would think we were battling the plagues prophesied in the Book of Revelation, walking down city streets stepping over dead bodies.

Is sitting in a room alone separated from other people now our most cherished custom?

Hellrazer · 10-02-2021 3:56pm

Ficheall wrote: »

T, but aye, I suppose your solution would have us covid-free in a month or two, if they were then prepared to take steps to stop us reimporting it (yes, I know, the border, etc..)

We dont need to be covid free - we just need to "Live with covid"

The first lockdown was so the health service could be given time to prepare for further waves of this virus - they didnt prepare so they werent ready for waves 2 or 3 and we end up in this 12 week lock down. Had the government planned properly we could be at a level of 2 or 3 with the economy partly open while hospitals dealt with surges and protected our vulnerable which was the plan along along.

The only people in the wrong here are our beloved overlords who in all reality couldnt run a race.

latency89 · 10-02-2021 4:00pm

growleaves wrote: »

Since they're talking about closing down next winter, if we stay closed down for the first four months of the year we're talking about roughly 2/3rds of the year in lockdown.

Unheard of for the Black Death, Spanish Flu etc.

You would think we were battling the plagues prophesied in the Book of Revelation, walking down city streets stepping over dead bodies.

Is sitting in a room alone separated from other people now our most cherished custom?

Some progress ehh

School closed longer than they are open

Did they have school in 1918?

freshpopcorn · 10-02-2021 4:01pm

Just go like this OP!
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trixi001 · 10-02-2021 4:01pm

Probably - but only because of location - although Easter isn't a major celebration in our house, but it might have been this year if parents were vaccinated on time, as we didn't have Christmas

Parents (and most other family & friends) live 100 mile away, and although both have now had there vaccinations, it will be 12-15 weeks to cover 2nd dose plus 3 weeks for it to be fully active, and they won't let me stay over until then

After this, i will be travelling the 100 miles once every 3 weeks, like i have done before, having dinner with them, staying over night etc. no stupid travel or 5km ban or ban on social visits will stop me..

Time with family is precious, parents are getting older, who knows how much longer they will be around for - or anyone for that matter - anyone could die tomorrow, and have spent a year alone...is this what we really want for our loved ones?

JimmyVik · 10-02-2021 4:02pm

Schools shouldnt be back until after Easter.
Restrictions shouldnt be lifted, bar maybe the 5km limit, because thats the worst part for people.

Than after Easter holidays we should have a good portion vaccinated and we can start winding down the restrictions coming into the summer.

Open the schools and lift restrictions before that and we are all going to end up locked up for the summer.

o1s1n · 10-02-2021 4:04pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

We dont need to be covid free - we just need to "Live with covid"

The first lockdown was so the health service could be given time to prepare for further waves of this virus - they didnt prepare so they werent ready for waves 2 or 3 and we end up in this 12 week lock down. Had the government planned properly we could be at a level of 2 or 3 with the economy partly open while hospitals dealt with surges and protected our vulnerable which was the plan along along.

The only people in the wrong here are our beloved overlords who in all reality couldnt run a race.

Do you know anyone working on the frontline in hospitals at the moment and have you heard what they are going through? I work with a lot of nurses, doctor and paramedics and it's not pretty. And that's with the lockdowns.

As much as I absolutely hate these lockdowns, there's no such thing as 'living with covid' until we all get vaccinated, it just won't work.

Christmas was a glimpse of that, the numbers skyrocketed.

growleaves · 10-02-2021 4:08pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Do you know anyone working on the frontline in hospitals at the moment and have you heard what they are going through? I work with a lot of nurses, doctor and paramedics and it's not pretty. And that's with the lockdowns.

As much as I absolutely hate these lockdowns, there's no such thing as 'living with covid' until we all get vaccinated, it just won't work.

Christmas was a glimpse of that, the numbers skyrocketed.

They're already talking about continuing the lockdowns after vaccination.

The real question is will you be able to put your foot down at some point or will you just accept shifting justifications for lockdown year on year?

trixi001 · 10-02-2021 4:11pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Do you know anyone working on the frontline in hospitals at the moment and have you heard what they are going through? I work with a lot of nurses, doctor and paramedics and it's not pretty. And that's with the lockdowns.

As much as I absolutely hate these lockdowns, there's no such thing as 'living with covid' until we all get vaccinated, it just won't work.

Christmas was a glimpse of that, the numbers skyrocketed.

Christmas skyrocketed because of lockdowns... Trying to restrict all Christmas activities to a shorter period of time and having lockdowns before and after it... people were socialising at possibly a higher rate than normal, as everyone knew it would be months before they were allowed to again!
Opening and closing things causes pent up demand - which ultimately contributes to higher cases..

copeyhagen · 10-02-2021 4:15pm

mullinr2 wrote: »

in order for schools to remain open from April to end of school year. What do you think is going to happen if we allow barbers, restaurants etc to reopen over Easter. A resurgence in case numbers followed by another Lockdown and school closures.

o give it a rest, the majority of cases over last 2 weeks were 85+, are they out drinking lattes in the cafes, or drinking pints, or getting their hair cut.

or do you think they all could be...lets guess.. in nursing homes?

copeyhagen · 10-02-2021 4:16pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Do you know anyone working on the frontline in hospitals at the moment and have you heard what they are going through? I work with a lot of nurses, doctor and paramedics and it's not pretty. And that's with the lockdowns.

As much as I absolutely hate these lockdowns, there's no such thing as 'living with covid' until we all get vaccinated, it just won't work.

Christmas was a glimpse of that, the numbers skyrocketed.

arent hospitals the exat same as this every year but due to flu?

10-02-2021 4:18pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

At the minute the main vectors for transmission are hospitals - sure why dont we close them for 3 months???

Its definitely not barbers / hairdressers / clothes shops / etc.

Its not even pubs or restaurants or even international travel.

Its always something else except what the government has control over ie hospitals / nursing homes.

Did you get a knock on the head? The places listed are closed so the number is going down fast. Do you not see the concorde of the two?

10-02-2021 4:20pm

latency89 wrote: »

I will be enjoying my easter, i'm a threat to no one if immunity exists

Hi Donald, how's retirement treating you?

FlubberJones · 10-02-2021 4:24pm

Who "celebrates" Easter these days, its a bank holiday like any other and I work BH anyway so it literally means ZERO to me... The idea that people will return to cramming themselves in houses to slobber and cough all over each other JUST BECASUE ITS EASTER is just rediculous.

Stay home and fill your faces with kitkat eggs... or go outside or maybe to a shopping centre but stay away from the get togethers.

average_runner · 10-02-2021 4:25pm

Palmach wrote: »

Don't give the saddos ideas. I have a family gathering planned for Easter. If the HSE is too incompetent to have over 65s vaccinated by then it's not my problem.

Well if they don't have the vaccine, they can't really do much.

Nice attitude though. Wonder why xmas was a massive success

Russman · 10-02-2021 4:26pm

copeyhagen wrote: »

arent hospitals the exat same as this every year but due to flu?

What, with basically all elective surgeries cancelled ? No, they're not like this every year. They're frequently full alright in a bad flu year, but there are some people out there who are saying COVID might not be flu. Mad I know.

average_runner · 10-02-2021 4:27pm

copeyhagen wrote: »

o give it a rest, the majority of cases over last 2 weeks were 85+, are they out drinking lattes in the cafes, or drinking pints, or getting their hair cut.

or do you think they all could be...lets guess.. in nursing homes?

And how does it get into the nursing homes ?????

Ever hear of community transmission. People having too many social contacts at xmas caused the rise in cases and it got into nursing homes via the community transmission

latency89 · 10-02-2021 4:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Hi Donald, how's retirement treating you?

Pretty good my friend.

Since I got covid it's improved, meet up with friends and family regularly now, they don't fear me and I don't fear them, outlook changes a bit after you get it

10-02-2021 4:32pm

latency89 wrote: »

Since I got covid it's improved, meet up with friends and family regularly now, they don't fear me and I don't fear them, outlook changes a bit after you get it

Something changes alright.

iamwhoiam · 10-02-2021 4:36pm

copeyhagen wrote: »

o give it a rest, the majority of cases over last 2 weeks were 85+, are they out drinking lattes in the cafes, or drinking pints, or getting their hair cut.

or do you think they all could be...lets guess.. in nursing homes?

Do you think Covid snuck in through the window into nursing homes ?
It came from the community .

latency89 · 10-02-2021 4:39pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Do you think Covid snuck in through the window into nursing homes ?
It came from the community .

How do you know? They are allowed outside as well.

You do know they don't test residents in nursing homes unless they show symptoms, while staff get tested every 2 weeks? Residents can be spreading it silently in there to staff and they give it to community

They've all been vaccinated anyway, not a huge concern anymore.

growleaves · 10-02-2021 4:42pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Do you think Covid snuck in through the window into nursing homes ?
It came from the community .

Do you admit that we cannot stay locked down 12 months out of the year every year?

Even though we could end up spending 8 months of this year in lockdown the elderly will still get respiratory illnesses, which is the commonest cause of death amongst the elderly in the world.

The fact of being mortal can't be legislated for.

Are people going to be smart over Easter

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