Are people going to be smart over Easter

latency89

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Indeed , via the community .

Well yeah of course, you right there it does come in from community.I was just making the point earlier that residents are not routinely tested and spread it too, nursing homes are an absolute mess, HSE and HIQA have been shambolic, that's not our fault, general public

mullinr2

mullinr2 wrote: »

Are people going to be smart over Easter

They haven't been up to now, what makes you think they'll start

copeyhagen

so were all agreed we didnt protect the vulnerable. that wasnt joe soaps fault, that lies directly with the HSE and Govt. its THEIR fault that all these people got infected and are basically ****ed now.

so why are we closing industry down?

cancel ALL visits to nursing homes for the next few weeks until their vaccinated.
unlockdown - new word.
test staff every week (ive read of some places not even testing staff anymore, could be internet bs)
get these vulnerable vaccinated, ASAP.
keep testing staff
allow visists once theyre all vaccinated

theres a plan, took all of ten seconds to come up with, yet the Govt have had a year and just keep f*cking locking us down, to protect the vulnerable, which hasnt wortked at all. theyre still as bad off.

JP Liz V1

pottokblue wrote: »

I dont know about easter still a few weeks away but this is the 1st year I'll be smart over cheltenham I'll be watching it with cans instead of pints and I'll be doing fantasy placepots/scoop6s/L15s....Unless taoiseach and tanaiste decide to ease restrictions for nonessentiall shops when I'll probably rapidly deterioriate back to my foolish mug baseline....

Is Cheltenham not cancelled, surely non essential travel no need for it to go ahead

Amirani

copeyhagen wrote: »

so were all agreed we didnt protect the vulnerable. that wasnt joe soaps fault, that lies directly with the HSE and Govt. its THEIR fault that all these people got infected and are basically ****ed now.

so why are we closing industry down?

cancel ALL visits to nursing homes for the next few weeks until their vaccinated.
unlockdown - new word.
test staff every week (ive read of some places not even testing staff anymore, could be internet bs)
get these vulnerable vaccinated, ASAP.
keep testing staff
allow visists once theyre all vaccinated

theres a plan, took all of ten seconds to come up with, yet the Govt have had a year and just keep f*cking locking us down, to protect the vulnerable, which hasnt wortked at all. theyre still as bad off.

Visits have been cancelled to nursing homes for ages.

Staff testing has been going on in nursing homes too. But you can't force people to be tested, which would require legal measures.

They are getting nursing home workers vaccinated asap.

Everything you said is already happening. Nothing new.

latency89

Amirani wrote: »

Visits have been cancelled to nursing homes for ages.

Staff testing has been going on in nursing homes too. But you can't force people to be tested, which would require legal measures.

They are getting nursing home workers vaccinated asap.

Everything you said is already happening. Nothing new.

Resident's are not routinely tested

votecounts

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is Cheltenham not cancelled, surely non essential travel no need for it to go ahead

i'd imagine it's behind closed doors

Hellrazer

Deleted User wrote: »

Did you get a knock on the head? The places listed are closed so the number is going down fast. Do you not see the concorde of the two?

So how can you prove that?

Give me numbers of people that caught it in a barbers or hairdressers.
Or even a pub for that matter.

Would you not think the numbers going down are because of the schools closing? That makes a lot more sense than blaming retail or hospitality
I believe this latest spike started when schools returned in September

If you look back over the latter half of last year the numbers started creeping up when the schools went back yet the schools apparently werent causing any cases.

Now the schools are closed the numbers are coming down.

I still dont believe its hospitality related.

stargazer 68

latency89 wrote: »

Resident's are not routinely tested

Residents being tested wasn't mentioned in the post that Amirani was replying to. But anyway its very difficult to swab an elderly resident with dementia or cognitive issues at the best of times let alone to do it on a regular basis.

pottokblue

if they opened Cheltenham up to the racegoing public then it would probably create a new "Cheltenham variant" not that I'd travel over for it as I dont have a big bank but I'd love to able to travel to UK/Europe to see family and friends, zoom doesnt have same atmosphere as live.

blackvalley

Mongfinder General wrote: »

The 5 March date is no accident. I think we’re looking at another month of restrictions to 5 April. Easter Monday.

Delighted Paddy’s Day is cancelled again. Absolute scum fest.

We saw what happened at Christmas. If some of these people had two brains they’d be twice as thick.

1/ " Scumfest ". That would come as quite a shock to the tens of thousands of adults and kids who watch and take part in parades all over the country .

2/ Nothing like insulting people to make them come around to your way of thinking.

copeyhagen

Amirani wrote: »

Visits have been cancelled to nursing homes for ages.

didnt know that, so its not joe public bringing it into these homes, its already well established in there? or its the staff?

Amirani wrote: »

Staff testing has been going on in nursing homes too. But you can't force people to be tested, which would require legal measures.

thats mad, i presumed that they HAD to be tested, thats ridiculous!!!

Amirani wrote: »

They are getting nursing home workers vaccinated asap.

they should have been first on the list given the group theyre working with.

copeyhagen

copeyhagen wrote: »

they should have been first on the list given the group theyre working with.

So rather than vaccinate the people in long term care you want the staff vaccinated first?

You do realize that the residents in long terms care were done first, then frontline medical staff including those in long term care homes were next

Honestly, the outrage funfest thats going on in this forum is hilarious. So many people have literally a piece of a story and proceed to get outraged without knowing the full facts

Harry Palmr

Covid 19 forum is basically a Current Affairs/IMHO offshoot so it's full of angry, half (at best) informed people!

piwyudo0fhn57b

All frustrating

Sam Hain

bucketybuck wrote: »

Sweet **** all.

The likes of Barbers are insignificant compared to other vectors of transmission.

I instantly dismiss anyones opinion when they use terms like "vectors of transmission", unless you are a molecular biologist. If that is the case, I apologise for instantly dismissing your opinion.

Amirani

Sam Hain wrote: »

I instantly dismiss anyones opinion when they use terms like "vectors of transmission", unless you are a molecular biologist. If that is the case, I apologise for instantly dismissing your opinion.

Why would it have to be molecular...? It's a fairly standard English word.

noun
1.
a quantity having direction as well as magnitude, especially as determining the position of one point in space relative to another.
2.
an organism, typically a biting insect or tick, that transmits a disease or parasite from one animal or plant to another.

munster87

mullinr2 wrote: »

in order for schools to remain open from April to end of school year. What do you think is going to happen if we allow barbers, restaurants etc to reopen over Easter. A resurgence in case numbers followed by another Lockdown and school closures.

I expect people would get haircuts and food

saabsaab

Were people smart over Christmas and New Year?

jrosen

People are stupid and selfish in large numbers so no I dont think people will behave over Easter, they are not even behaving now. People are short sighted and fail to see how their own behavior impacts on everything else. Sure its just a visit to my friend, sure its just having coffee with one person, sure its just a few drinks with the neighbors etc etc.

Mimon

Mongfinder General wrote: »

The 5 March date is no accident. I think we’re looking at another month of restrictions to 5 April. Easter Monday.

Delighted Paddy’s Day is cancelled again. Absolute scum fest.

We saw what happened at Christmas. If some of these people had two brains they’d be twice as thick.

Not just scum as you like to call them but I know of professionals including some in frontline health service roles that met up for parties at Christmas. Just try to be fair and accurate with your blame game.

At work it is generally the top managers who won't be told by people assigned to police mask wearing/social distancing etc.

Mimon

jrosen wrote: »

People are stupid and selfish in large numbers so no I dont think people will behave over Easter, they are not even behaving now. People are short sighted and fail to see how their own behavior impacts on everything else. Sure its just a visit to my friend, sure its just having coffee with one person, sure its just a few drinks with the neighbors etc etc.

We Irish really like to stretch the boundaries. Saw two women having a car meeting. They were chatting with windows 1/4 open and one of them moved to her passenger seat. Weren't 2m apart. Probably low risk but we shouldn't be taking any risks now.

blackvalley

Mimon wrote: »

We Irish really like to stretch the boundaries. Saw two women having a car meeting. They were chatting with windows 1/4 open and one of them moved to her passenger seat. Weren't 2m apart. Probably low risk but we shouldn't be taking any risks now.

Hope you got both reg numbers and passed them directly to the Guards . 1 / 4 open you say ! The absolute cheek of them:eek: . It might actually be far more serious than just the Guards and might merit a call to Joe Duffy .
Perhaps we could get that other pair deported from the Canaries and have a show trial with the four of them .
Id say Tony himself would be prepared to act as judge and theres no doubt that there would be no shortage of curtain twitchers to act as jury and firing squad .

OP Please tell me you are joking.

ypres5

Mimon wrote: »

We Irish really like to stretch the boundaries. Saw two women having a car meeting. They were chatting with windows 1/4 open and one of them moved to her passenger seat. Weren't 2m apart. Probably low risk but we shouldn't be taking any risks now.

Please tell me this is a joke post please

timeToLive

blackvalley wrote: »

Hope you got both reg numbers and passed them directly to the Guards . 1 / 4 open you say ! The absolute cheek of them:eek: . It might actually be far more serious than just the Guards and might merit a call to Joe Duffy .
Perhaps we could get that other pair deported from the Canaries and have a show trial with the four of them .
Id say Tony himself would be prepared to act as judge and theres no doubt that there would be no shortage of curtain twitchers to act as jury and firing squad .

OP Please tell me you are joking.

To be fair it is annoying when you see people making zero effort at all.

blackvalley

timeToLive wrote: »

To be fair it is annoying when you see people making zero effort at all.

Yes. But that was not such an example.

ypres5

blackvalley wrote: »

Yes. But that was not such an example.

i think the government are going to have to run reconditioning programmes for people if the sight of two people holding a conversation in their respective vehicles with the windows 1/4 down is cause for scandal

Panthro

I was in a car park earlier, seen two cars parked right beside each other.
I thought to myself did those cars not realise there's a pandemic on.. Ffs!

Thank god nobody was in them.

Charles Babbage

Hellrazer wrote: »

If you look back over the latter half of last year the numbers started creeping up when the schools went back yet the schools apparently werent causing any cases.

Now the schools are closed the numbers are coming down.

Numbers increased steadily from the end of June, it was just that double a small number was still a fairly small number. In 5 weeks from mid June to late August the rate went up 6 times. In the next 5 weeks, when schools opened, it went up 4 times.

I still dont believe its hospitality related.

You obviously aren't interested in evidence.

Nevin Parsnipp

saabsaab wrote: »

Were people smart over Christmas and New Year?

Nooooo gobbed beer and socialised like there waz no tomorrow !