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ShyMets · 08-02-2021 03:54PM

Enquiring wrote: »

To increase the standards in counties who haven't won anything for a while, would it be better to give them a higher level of funding than everyone else or would giving the stronger counties more funding be more helpful?

I agree entirely. Additional funding is required and should be given to those counties who need. Just back to my question how many of those 20 plus counties have one a provincial title in the last 10 year

SheepsClothing · 08-02-2021 04:02PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

It makes no sense on any level to punish a team for driving standards forward.

Instead of splitting Dublin in 4, other counties should amalgamate to make regional teams to improve their own standards.

So the solution is to punish the other 31 county sized counties, to suit the one province sized county?

Seems a bit mad, but looking at it honestly, wouldn't be out of step with what the GAA have done for the last 18 years.

Enquiring · 08-02-2021 04:44PM

ShyMets wrote: »

I agree entirely. Additional funding is required and should be given to those counties who need. Just back to my question how many of those 20 plus counties have one a provincial title in the last 10 year

In football, only one county has won in Leinster since Meath in 2010. 4 in Ulster. 3 in Connaught and 3 in Munster. 11 of the 30 counties excluding Dublin and Kilkenny have won provincials in the very recent past. When you consider that the 9 other Leinster counties have had their opportunity to win a provincial championship decimated because of the Dublin funding, it's really quite a high rate of counties competing. Other counties like Armagh and Sligo were just a little outside this 10 year period.

It just goes to show that Gaelic football is a wide open and vibrant game. Other counties can be brought up to standard with appropriate funding and the addition of 4 new counties and probably a major structural change in the championship format, will really bring the game on further. In hurling, we really need to target more counties to get them up to the top level like what was done with Dublin. We know it can be done.

ShyMets · 08-02-2021 04:55PM

Enquiring wrote: »

In football, only one county has won in Leinster since Meath in 2010. 4 in Ulster. 3 in Connaught and 3 in Munster. 11 of the 30 counties excluding Dublin and Kilkenny have won provincials in the very recent past. When you consider that the 9 other Leinster counties have had their opportunity to win a provincial championship decimated because of the Dublin funding, it's really quite a high rate of counties competing. Other counties like Armagh and Sligo were just a little outside this 10 year period.

It just goes to show that Gaelic football is a wide open and vibrant game. Other counties can be brought up to standard with appropriate funding and the addition of 4 new counties and probably a major structural change in the championship format, will really bring the game on further. In hurling, we really need to target more counties to get them up to the top level like what was done with Dublin. We know it can be done.

Personally I'd spilt and amalgamate and base teams on population seize. But as I said before we'll have to disagree on the matter, respectfully of course

Enquiring · 08-02-2021 06:50PM

ShyMets wrote: »

Personally I'd spilt and amalgamate and base teams on population seize. But as I said before we'll have to disagree on the matter, respectfully of course

You're entitled to your view of course. I just don't see why there would be need for amalgamations if the Dublin, funding and sponsorship issues are sorted out. We have the opportunity to grow our games further and create wide open, competitive championships in both hurling and football.

ArielAtom · 08-02-2021 07:46PM

For posters of the opinion splitting Dublin solves their perceived problems with football, you are so far off the mark it’s not even funny. It will merely bring 3-4 teams ahead of Dublin and stop the dominance you are seeing presently. It will do nothing to ensure Sligo, Leitrim, Westmeath, Kildare, Meath, Louth, Laois etc are within an asses roar of winning a provincial title. It will however satisfy the majority who are of the opinion a split is required, because it will make their county competitive at some level. The target will have been hit, absolutely nothing to do with fairness and an equal playing field.

Lost Ormond · 08-02-2021 08:35PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

"Putting in hard yards" = Having a paid full time commercial director and a quarter of the countries population.

On your earlier point, I do agree though. The GAA were right to fund their sports in Dublin, they should have just split the county in four while they were at it.

They shouldnt be split in 4. The only split should be in two if a split was to happen. Everything about the teams etc is about traditional boundaries etc.
There is a very distinct, natural border you can use in Dublin in the Liffey.
A split in 4 means totally disenfranchising many people.
Other counties have full time staff and could work more with outside sources to get staff if they really saw it necessary.

bobbysands81 wrote: »

It makes no sense on any level to punish a team for driving standards forward.

Instead of splitting Dublin in 4, other counties should amalgamate to make regional teams to improve their own standards.

Dublin shouldnt be split and other counties should not have to amalgamate. Most counties have never been challenging for all irelands. Put in a better tiered competition and give these sides a chance to improve at their own level

Enquiring wrote: »

Over 20 counties have won provincial championships since the 90's. 5 other Leinster counties won provincial championships in the late 90's, early 2000's. Tipperary won the Munster championship last year, Cavan won the Ulster championship.

Instead of handing the county with the biggest population millions of euros above everyone else, fund the smaller counties. You think minnows can't become competitive? We already know that they can. Dublin were minnows in hurling. Getting regular big beatings, losing to Westmeath etc. Huge funding for coaches came Dublin's way. Theyve had an unprecedented level of success at underage level, at club level and at senior inter county level where they have won a provincial and national league title. That would have been unthinkable prior to the Dublin only scheme.

So the pathway is clear. Make our games fair and all counties can compete.

The games are fair. All counties do compete but there is no format/changes that can ever happen that will make all counties competitvie. Tipp did win the football last year through developing good systems in underage and building on that into the long term. Thats a win thats 15 years or so in the making. Tipp football didnt whine about Kerry or Corks huge playing number advantages or financial advantages

TheDalioLama · 08-02-2021 08:58PM

Faced with the two options, I think splitting Dublin makes far more administrative sense than amalgamating other counties together.

A Cork-Kerry amalgamation for example would require hours of commute to and from training for a portion of players ,regardless of where it was held.

There's also the question of whether you amalgamate for
all codes. Limerick and Clare might make a good football amalgamation but it's not nearly as appropriate to join them in hurling.

It would be far cleaner to split a smaller, more densely populated area like Dublin into 4. A county which has well developed structures on the back of development funding and an area where the population is set to grow further over time.

Lost Ormond · 08-02-2021 09:04PM

TheDalioLama wrote: »

Faced with the two options, I think splitting Dublin makes far more administrative sense than amalgamating other counties together.

A Cork-Kerry amalgamation for example would require hours of commute to and from training for a portion of players ,regardless of where it was held.

There's also the question of whether you amalgamate for
all codes. Limerick and Clare might make a good football amalgamation but it's not nearly as appropriate to join them in hurling.

It would be far cleaner to split a smaller, more densely populated area like Dublin into 4. A county which has well developed structures on the back of development funding and an area where the population is set to grow further over time.

Why is the call to split Dublin into 4? Thats completely over the top and just disenfranchises all the Dubs. If a split was to happen you can only do it in two using the river so its North v South. Anything else is not an option
Dublin does have well developed structures that would be changed totally and negatively if instead of going towards the existing set up is going to 2 or more completely new set ups

If there were to be amalgamations Cork and Kerry would never be one. If you are sticking to the actual provinces and having no splits go across provincial boundaries you would be leaving Cork and Kerry alone and doing some form of combination with the remaining counties within Munster but counties joining isnt going to happen and isnt the answer to fixing anything any way.
You wouldnt be joining for both codes.

Enquiring · 08-02-2021 09:30PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

The games are fair. All counties do compete but there is no format/changes that can ever happen that will make all counties competitvie. Tipp did win the football last year through developing good systems in underage and building on that into the long term. Thats a win thats 15 years or so in the making. Tipp football didnt whine about Kerry or Corks huge playing number advantages or financial advantages

There's no whining. Pointing out the results of almost 2 decades of funding disparity is not whining. The current Leinster council chairman is not whining when admitting that the funding has decimated the championship.

The splitting of Dublin into north and south was on the table 2 decades ago. With the population, the huge finance available and the aforementioned 2 decades worth of funding, it now has to be 4 counties. The boundaries are already drawn, the resources are there for these 4 counties to thrive.

As I've said, a large number of counties have won provincials in the recent past, the competition is healthy. With counties operating at an amateur level, teams like Tipperary and Cavan can put in hard work and gain success, it's when counties operating at a professional level are let compete in the same competition, problems emerge.

Lost Ormond · 08-02-2021 09:37PM

Enquiring wrote: »

There's no whining. Pointing out the results of almost 2 decades of funding disparity is not whining. The current Leinster council chairman is not whining when admitting that the funding has decimated the championship.

The splitting of Dublin into north and south was on the table 2 decades ago. With the population, the huge finance available and the aforementioned 2 decades worth of funding, it now has to be 4 counties. The boundaries are already drawn, the resources are there for these 4 counties to thrive.

As I've said, a large number of counties have won provincials in the recent past, the competition is healthy. With counties operating at an amateur level, teams like Tipperary and Cavan can put in hard work and gain success, it's when counties operating at a professional level are let compete in the same competition, problems emerge.

Whats your own county?
A split isnt needed. Majority of counties have never been in same league as Dublin so comparing them is illogical.
The format of the inter county championship is illogical and needs change. Kerry, Mayo and other sides consistently at top level spend on the inter county team similar or more than what Dublin do. They dont have to spend as much on development officers doing games and skills in schools because the way the GAA in integrated into smaller communties nationwide is far more than in a lot of Dublin and dublin schools.
Tipp have 1 provincial title in 80 years. Cavan have 2 in 50 years.
Dublin are doing lot of good work but are in no way a professional team are at a professional level

Enquiring · 08-02-2021 10:10PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

Whats your own county?
A split isnt needed. Majority of counties have never been in same league as Dublin so comparing them is illogical.
The format of the inter county championship is illogical and needs change. Kerry, Mayo and other sides consistently at top level spend on the inter county team similar or more than what Dublin do. They dont have to spend as much on development officers doing games and skills in schools because the way the GAA in integrated into smaller communties nationwide is far more than in a lot of Dublin and dublin schools.
Tipp have 1 provincial title in 80 years. Cavan have 2 in 50 years.
Dublin are doing lot of good work but are in no way a professional team are at a professional level

Strangely, many counties were competing with Dublin prior to the funding. The Leinster championship was wide open in football. In hurling, Dublin weren't in the same league as any of the top teams. Look what the funding did on that front and across the board.

Dublin spend 1.5 million per year on team preparations, they spend 3.8 million on games development, 2 million on wages and salaries, 2 million on expenses, they receive over 2 million in sponsorship money each year. How can a county with that level of resources be let compete with counties with fractions of that?

So it shows that Tipperary and Cavan can compete as it is, imagine if they were funded fairly and other counties weren't over funded?

Lost Ormond · 08-02-2021 10:16PM

Enquiring wrote: »

Strangely, many counties were competing with Dublin prior to the funding. The Leinster championship was wide open in football. In hurling, Dublin weren't in the same league as any of the top teams. Look what the funding did on that front and across the board.

Dublin spend 1.5 million per year on team preparations, they spend 3.8 million on games development, 2 million on wages and salaries, 2 million on expenses, they receive over 2 million in sponsorship money each year. How can a county with that level of resources be let compete with counties with fractions of that?

So it shows that Tipperary and Cavan can compete as it is, imagine if they were funded fairly and other counties weren't over funded?

Tipp are most certainly fairly funded.
Talking about Leinster look through the decades. Apart from 1996 to 2004 its been totally dominated by Dublin and Meath apart from Offaly at start of 70s and 80s. Have to go back to 1920s for any other team to really have any form of dominance in terms of winning titles.
Dublin have largest population by a considerable distance of course they were spend extreme amounts of introducing kids to being active etc.

Enquiring · 08-02-2021 10:25PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

Tipp are most certainly fairly funded.
Talking about Leinster look through the decades. Apart from 1996 to 2004 its been totally dominated by Dublin and Meath apart from Offaly at start of 70s and 80s. Have to go back to 1920s for any other team to really have any form of dominance in terms of winning titles.
Dublin have largest population by a considerable distance of course they were spend extreme amounts of introducing kids to being active etc.

Not compared with Dublin. No one has been fairly funded when compared with Dublin. Are you aware of the Dublin only coaching scheme planned and funded for them since 2002?

That's the thing, the days of Dublin being the dominant force was over. Why do you think the Dublin county board went to Bertie and co to look for money? Dublin were still competitive but losing to Meath and Kildare regularly didn't go down well.

The money was used to enter primary schools to attract numbers but it's main goal was to improve standards across the board in Dublin GAA. Kids between the ages of 8-18 who were registered to clubs numbered under 30,000. These were the main targets. Despite having more clubs, teams, wider area to cover etc. Cork received fractions of what Dublin did, can you explain that? Or why Dublin were placed above counties with bigger issues like Antrim or many northern counties for this special scheme?

Lost Ormond · 08-02-2021 10:30PM

Enquiring wrote: »

Not compared with Dublin. No one has been fairly funded when compared with Dublin. Are you aware of the Dublin only coaching scheme planned and funded for them since 2002?

That's the thing, the days of Dublin being the dominant force was over. Why do you think the Dublin county board went to Bertie and co to look for money? Dublin were still competitive but losing to Meath and Kildare regularly didn't go down well.

The money was used to enter primary schools to attract numbers but it's main goal was to improve standards across the board in Dublin GAA. Kids between the ages of 8-18 who were registered to clubs numbered under 30,000. These were the main targets. Despite having more clubs, teams, wider area to cover etc. Cork received fractions of what Dublin did, can you explain that? Or why Dublin were placed above counties with bigger issues like Antrim or many northern counties for this special scheme?

Every county isnt the same. I lived in tipp. lived in Dublin. Galway. GAA far more noticable, etc in tipp, galway. Cork does have more clubs but how many are single sport and there is duplicate clubs because of hurling only etc?
The money was primarily focused on the thousands of kids in primary school that isnt going to do much for an inter county team no matter what the coaches did

Enquiring · 08-02-2021 10:48PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

Every county isnt the same. I lived in tipp. lived in Dublin. Galway. GAA far more noticable, etc in tipp, galway. Cork does have more clubs but how many are single sport and there is duplicate clubs because of hurling only etc?
The money was primarily focused on the thousands of kids in primary school that isnt going to do much for an inter county team no matter what the coaches did

Whatever way you want to excuse it, Cork received and still receive fractions of what Dublin get for games development. Every other county were getting in and around the same amount. Antrim had half Dublin's population but far more issues, they were getting pittance compared with Dublin.

The coaches were half paid for by clubs. They worked for the clubs and their main role was improving standards within that club. Coaching teams themselves, coaching other coaches, putting on advanced academies etc. It's made a huge difference. Dublin county board employees who've been there throughout have noted the huge increase in standards and they put it down to the Gdo's.

Lost Ormond · 08-02-2021 10:53PM

Enquiring wrote: »

Whatever way you want to excuse it, Cork received and still receive fractions of what Dublin get for games development. Every other county were getting in and around the same amount. Antrim had half Dublin's population but far more issues, they were getting pittance compared with Dublin.

The coaches were half paid for by clubs. They worked for the clubs and their main role was improving standards within that club. Coaching teams themselves, coaching other coaches, putting on advanced academies etc. It's made a huge difference. Dublin county board employees who've been there throughout have noted the huge increase in standards and they put it down to the Gdo's.

You avoided my question. Whats your own county?
It isnt an excuse. You see a lot more gaelic activity etc in schools down country as clubs will be more involved. Many GAA clubs only have 1/2 primary schools in their parish so will have club people helping out in the school coaching/assisting. You wont have that as much in Dublin though of course it does happen.
Clubs do assist in some cases to pay coaches but up to other counties to find resources to get these in place not whine about what Dublin are doing.

JeffKenna · 08-02-2021 11:11PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

You avoided my question. Whats your own county?
It isnt an excuse. You see a lot more gaelic activity etc in schools down country as clubs will be more involved. Many GAA clubs only have 1/2 primary schools in their parish so will have club people helping out in the school coaching/assisting. You wont have that as much in Dublin though of course it does happen.
Clubs do assist in some cases to pay coaches but up to other counties to find resources to get these in place not whine about what Dublin are doing.

Why should other counties have to find resources when Dublin had millions handed to them?

Enquiring · 08-02-2021 11:16PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

You avoided my question. Whats your own county?
It isnt an excuse. You see a lot more gaelic activity etc in schools down country as clubs will be more involved. Many GAA clubs only have 1/2 primary schools in their parish so will have club people helping out in the school coaching/assisting. You wont have that as much in Dublin though of course it does happen.
Clubs do assist in some cases to pay coaches but up to other counties to find resources to get these in place not whine about what Dublin are doing.

It is an excuse. Many counties have far bigger issues than Dublin. Some counties have in and around half their population opposed to the GAA. They recently came out of a 30 year war. Yet they were all receiving fractions of Dublin's funding.

This was a Dublin only scheme where half the coach was paid for by the GAA/taxpayers and half by the clubs. No other county had access to it. Again, it's not whining. The funding disparity has lasted for nearly 2 decades, the Leinster council chairman agrees that it has decimated the championship.

Dublin now spending nearly 4 million on games development alone can't be ignored. That's along with the enormous spending in other areas.

ArielAtom · 08-02-2021 11:30PM

I see the untruth about Dublin spending 3.8m is been bandied a out, yet Pat Teehan has confirmed 1.2m in funding is supplied. They are facts, the fantasy figures bandied about on here are just that and looking for support with factually incorrect figures is comical to say the least.

Enquiring · 09-02-2021 09:21AM

ArielAtom wrote: »

I see the untruth about Dublin spending 3.8m is been bandied a out, yet Pat Teehan has confirmed 1.2m in funding is supplied. They are facts, the fantasy figures bandied about on here are just that and looking for support with factually incorrect figures is comical to say the least.

Wait, how are Dublin getting 1.2 million? You've stated throughout this thread that the Dublin funding ended in 2017. You weren't just making that up were you?

Dublin spending 3.8 million on games development comes from the Dublin county board chairman, John Costello. This is the total figure spent on games development. That includes money from the GAA, taxpayers, clubs and the Dublin county board. It's an enormous figure.

On top of this, Dublin spend over 2 million per year on wages and salaries, 2 million on administrative and other expenses, 1.5 million on team preparations. And people are seriously trying to argue that this county should continue competing in an amateur sport with counties barely scrapping by. It's nonsense, the finance, population and structures are there for 4 counties to thrive.

dobman88 · 09-02-2021 11:05AM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

You avoided my question. Whats your own county?

He will always avoid that question and probably report it if you ask again. And it's been asked plenty. Poster has zero credibility until he answers that question. Seems like hes from Meath or Kildare and is annoyed to see a rival succeed so has an agenda.

TCP/IP · 09-02-2021 11:14AM

dobman88 wrote: »

He will always avoid that question and probably report it if you ask again. And it's been asked plenty. Poster has zero credibility until he answers that question. Seems like hes from Meath or Kildare and is annoyed to see a rival succeed so has an agenda.

Yes he never answers that question and has lost all credibility best not to engage with him leave him off on his rants.

dobman88 · 09-02-2021 11:19AM

TCP/IP wrote: »

Yes he never answers that question and has lost all credibility best not to engage with him leave him off on his rants.
Also seems strange to register a new account in Oct 2020 and then all he talks about is Dublin GAA.

Doesnt even have to say where they're from. Just what county they support because the line they've been trotting out of just wanting the gaa to succeed is bogus.

seligehgit · 09-02-2021 12:18PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

Whats your own county?
A split isnt needed. Majority of counties have never been in same league as Dublin so comparing them is illogical.
The format of the inter county championship is illogical and needs change. Kerry, Mayo and other sides consistently at top level spend on the inter county team similar or more than what Dublin do. They dont have to spend as much on development officers doing games and skills in schools because the way the GAA in integrated into smaller communties nationwide is far more than in a lot of Dublin and dublin schools.
Tipp have 1 provincial title in 80 years. Cavan have 2 in 50 years.
Dublin are doing lot of good work but are in no way a professional team are at a professional level

Lost Ormond wrote: »

You avoided my question. Whats your own county?
It isnt an excuse. You see a lot more gaelic activity etc in schools down country as clubs will be more involved. Many GAA clubs only have 1/2 primary schools in their parish so will have club people helping out in the school coaching/assisting. You wont have that as much in Dublin though of course it does happen.
Clubs do assist in some cases to pay coaches but up to other counties to find resources to get these in place not whine about what Dublin are doing.

dobman88 wrote: »

He will always avoid that question and probably report it if you ask again. And it's been asked plenty. Poster has zero credibility until he answers that question. Seems like hes from Meath or Kildare and is annoyed to see a rival succeed so has an agenda.

TCP/IP wrote: »

Yes he never answers that question and has lost all credibility best not to engage with him leave him off on his rants.
Also seems strange to register a new account in Oct 2020 and then all he talks about is Dublin GAA.

ArielAtom wrote: »

Posting history can be very informative, the rugby thread got very tired of it very quickly. History repeating itself?

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ArielAtom · 09-02-2021 01:25PM

What are posters thoughts on the real reason why Dublin are so successful?

Superior players, with the right attitude and the will to win, willing to make all the sacrifices that are required and buy into the managers philosophy. The money thing is just a smokescreen for lads that are fed u with their own counties lack of success. By and large we have a really good bunch of GAA people posting in all the GAA threads. Then we have the posters that post untruths and post figures that are false. But he, let em off. I am revelling in Dublin's Dominance. Long may it last. And the really funny argument posted is the splitting, it will never happen, not matter how much the small band of merry men post on internet chat forums. I mean the lad who sent a letter to every club had his figures wrong!!!!!!!! That kinda says it all. The best thing about this thread is that all the vitriol aimed at Dublin has a single thread for it, keeping the others free. I will continue to look in on the chat and keep an eye on the untruths.

SheepsClothing · 09-02-2021 02:05PM

ArielAtom wrote: »

What are posters thoughts on the real reason why Dublin are so successful?

Superior players, with the right attitude and the will to win, willing to make all the sacrifices that are required and buy into the managers philosophy. The money thing is just a smokescreen for lads that are fed u with their own counties lack of success. By and large we have a really good bunch of GAA people posting in all the GAA threads. Then we have the posters that post untruths and post figures that are false. But he, let em off. I am revelling in Dublin's Dominance. Long may it last. And the really funny argument posted is the splitting, it will never happen, not matter how much the small band of merry men post on internet chat forums. I mean the lad who sent a letter to every club had his figures wrong!!!!!!!! That kinda says it all. The best thing about this thread is that all the vitriol aimed at Dublin has a single thread for it, keeping the others free. I will continue to look in on the chat and keep an eye on the untruths.

Those country lads just need to pull up their bootstraps and buy into a philosophy dammit!!!! Money doesn't kick a ball over the bar!!!!

Are you really reveling in their dominance though? Are you not bored of this forgone conclusion by now? How much longer will you be satisfied watching a team stroll to victory every season?

Much as some Dublin fans are content to stick their fingers in their ears and block out the calls for change, more and more of them are voting with their feet by not bothering to attend games anymore. The GAA will eventually be forced to do something, or face seeing their flagship competition die from a lack of competitiveness.

Enquiring · 09-02-2021 02:21PM

It's clear that it stings, the truth hurts as they say but as the Leinster council chairman has admitted, the funding has decimated the championship. We can't just ignore it or brush it under the carpet. No amount of lies or deflection can erase the facts. The finance Dublin GAA are operating with currently is staggering. Huge numbers all taken from Dublin county board accounts and statements by the Dublin county board chairman. Spending 3.8 million on games development alone means the unprecedented levels of success across Dublin GAA are guaranteed to continue.

The split has to happen and it will benefit everyone, most of all Gaelic games in Dublin will benefit. The next steps are to promote this and spread knowledge of the facts and figures. We need to make representations through our clubs and county boards. If those opposed to fair play try to shout this down and silence it through the media etc. protests may be needed or maybe a boycott of games involving Dublin GAA.

Remember, if the split doesn't happen, the alternative pushed forward by those opposed to fair play will be to amalgamate counties. So not only will the over funding of one county decimate the championship, it will decimate Gaelic games as we know it.

Enquiring · 09-02-2021 02:32PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

Those country lads just need to pull up their bootstraps and buy into a philosophy dammit!!!! Money doesn't kick a ball over the bar!!!!

Are you really reveling in their dominance though? Are you not bored of this forgone conclusion by now? How much longer will you be satisfied watching a team stroll to victory every season?

Much as some Dublin fans are content to stick their fingers in their ears and block out the calls for change, more and more of them are voting with their feet by not bothering to attend games anymore. The GAA will eventually be forced to do something, or face seeing their flagship competition die from a lack of competitiveness.

That's true. Even many Dublin fans are realising how unfair and unbalanced it all is. Obviously those in the media etc shout the loudest but not all Dublin supporters want to win under the current circumstances.

Only 10,000 Dublin fans have been attending their senior footballers championship matches outside their home ground Croke park. Crowds have been fallen dramatically in the Leinster championship and it's beginning to show on the All Ireland series.

The GAA will take notice when the income from matches continues to drop.

Lost Ormond · 09-02-2021 02:37PM

Enquiring wrote: »

It's clear that it stings, the truth hurts as they say but as the Leinster council chairman has admitted, the funding has decimated the championship. We can't just ignore it or brush it under the carpet. No amount of lies or deflection can erase the facts. The finance Dublin GAA are operating with currently is staggering. Huge numbers all taken from Dublin county board accounts and statements by the Dublin county board chairman. Spending 3.8 million on games development alone means the unprecedented levels of success across Dublin GAA are guaranteed to continue.

The split has to happen and it will benefit everyone, most of all Gaelic games in Dublin will benefit. The next steps are to promote this and spread knowledge of the facts and figures. We need to make representations through our clubs and county boards. If those opposed to fair play try to shout this down and silence it through the media etc. protests may be needed or maybe a boycott of games involving Dublin GAA.

Remember, if the split doesn't happen, the alternative pushed forward by those opposed to fair play will be to amalgamate counties. So not only will the over funding of one county decimate the championship, it will decimate Gaelic games as we know it.

A split actually would disenfranchise Dubs based on this thread, majority of dubs when asked about this issue. They see themselves as Dubs not anything else. Trying to create new teams who have no history of playing together etc doesnt work and there is countless examples of this across multiple sports. Look at the issues welsh rugby has.
Dublin has a population multiples of any other so of course development funding will be multiple times what it is in other counties.
Fair play for all counties means Dublin will get ten times more than some counties because of their population.

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