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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #3332
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    froog wrote: »
    a shamrock photo op and a present of a hurley or whatever will have zero impact on US investment in Ireland. in the middle of heavy restrictions in a global pandemic, the leader of the country should not be flying to other countries. it looks bad, simple as that.

    It looks bad to who ?

    Those who cant tell the difference between one leader of a country meeting another, versus John, Mary and the kids going to Costa del sol for 2 weeks ?

    Really and truly, if people really think they are comparable its no wonder our authorities have struggled at times to communicate with some.


  • #3333
    [Deleted User]
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    Kunta Kinte wrote: »
    Has this been confirmed? The last I saw was that MM was reserving the right to travel to Washington for St Patrick`s Day but hadn` t made a decision one way or the other. BTW shamrock is not a "weed".

    Ah it is really.


  • #3334
    Plumbthedepths
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    Kunta Kinte wrote: »
    Has this been confirmed? The last I saw was that MM was reserving the right to travel to Washington for St Patrick`s Day but hadn` t made a decision one way or the other. BTW shamrock is not a "weed".

    It is a weed...
    https://chorbie.com/lawn-care/is-the-shamrock-plant-a-weed/


  • #3335
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    There is also a truly astonishing amount of complete disregard for people's circumstances by the government. No alternatives provided for a wide variety of services that people need. Just told "wait till lockdown is over" which I guess could be forever. Not a care in the world from Meehoe and the gang who are well looked after in life, happy to chirp on with endless lockdown.


  • #3336
    froog
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    It looks bad to who ?

    Those who cant tell the difference between one leader of a country meeting another, versus John, Mary and the kids going to Costa del sol for 2 weeks ?

    Really and truly, if people really think they are comparable its no wonder our authorities have struggled at times to communicate with some.

    to the entire country who can't move outside a 5km radius.


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  • #3337
    Plumbthedepths
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    It looks bad to who ?

    Those who cant tell the difference between one leader of a country meeting another, versus John, Mary and the kids going to Costa del sol for 2 weeks ?

    Really and truly, if people really think they are comparable its no wonder our authorities have struggled at times to communicate with some.
    Do you think everyone who wishes to leave Ireland wants to head to the Costa del Sol? I find this repeated rubbish to be akin to a wind up.I have work colleagues who have not seen family for almost a year except on Zoom.


  • #3338
    Cerveza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    You thirsty the brood?


  • #3339
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,278 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Not sure what 'managed quarantine' is exactly but interesting move.

    https://twitter.com/caroline_gm_d/status/1356612795241017348


  • #3340
    Professor Moriarty
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not sure what 'managed quarantine' is exactly but interesting move.

    https://twitter.com/caroline_gm_d/status/1356612795241017348

    Quarantining the English? Fair play.


  • #3341
    Eod100
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    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Quarantining the English? Fair play.

    If only it was around when Johnson visited.. :pac:


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  • #3342
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,315 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


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  • #3343
    fits
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    I’m glad Taoiseach is going to Washington. We need to use our advantageous connections. Remember NI is looking wobbly at the moment too. Some US interest has helped in the past.


  • #3344
    Drumpot
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    froog wrote: »
    to the entire country who can't move outside a 5km radius.

    The phrase "cutting off you nose to spite their face" comes to mind.


  • #3345
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,278 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Hopefully cases stay below 1k mark but shouldn't be much more over all going well so

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1356621905743200261


  • #3346
    Goldengirl
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    Totally disagree, its the right call for Ireland even if it does annoy people.

    Issue as always is peoples inability to take personal responsibility for their actions (regardless of what others are doing) and making false comparisons.

    Going to USA to try and garner positive influence with American President is potentially substantially financially rewarding for Ireland Inc. An individual going on holiday abroad is not in anyway helping us on the same scale.

    There is a new president friendly to Ireland, I would argue it would be significantly against our interests for our Taoiseach not to go so people can find something else to get annoyed at.

    Could nominate an Irish person already over there to do it , like would be an " Irish Ambassador " ...oh wait , we have an Irish Ambassador in America ?


  • #3347
    [Deleted User]
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    fits wrote: »
    I’m glad Taoiseach is going to Washington. We need to use our advantageous connections. Remember NI is looking wobbly at the moment too. Some US interest has helped in the past.

    Just tell Joe the virus situation is dire in Ballina and he will ship a few vaccines our way


  • #3348
    What Username Guidelines
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Hopefully cases stay below 1k mark but shouldn't be much more over all going well so

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1356621905743200261

    Good result with contacts being tested, even the total tests is low-ish which may optimistically mean less demand?


  • #3349
    PmMeUrDogs
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Hopefully cases stay below 1k mark but shouldn't be much more over all going well so

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1356621905743200261

    Decently low positivity again, that's great considering the resumption of close contact testing


  • #3350
    Drumpot
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Do you think everyone who wishes to leave Ireland wants to head to the Costa del Sol? I find this repeated rubbish to be akin to a wind up.I have work colleagues who have not seen family for almost a year except on Zoom.

    Again, they are two completely different things. People who want to do something to meet a personal need versus one leader meeting another to harness relations between countries. These are not comparable in the context you are making out.


  • #3351
    Kunta Kinte
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It is a weed...
    https://chorbie.com/lawn-care/is-the-shamrock-plant-a-weed/

    Maybe maybe not. The article in the link that you posted doesn`t make a definite case either way. Anyway this is off topic. Is MM definitely categorically going to Washington?


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  • #3352
    zuutroy
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    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Decently low positivity again, that's great considering the resumption of close contact testing

    Surely one should expect the positivity to decrease when we test people based on the fact that they're just a close contact, and have widened the net beyond people who are showing symptoms?


  • #3353
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Do you think everyone who wishes to leave Ireland wants to head to the Costa del Sol? I find this repeated rubbish to be akin to a wind up.I have work colleagues who have not seen family for almost a year except on Zoom.

    I haven’t seen my daughters for a full year now . I would anything to hold her and hug her. I will travel if I can when I can


  • #3354
    Plumbthedepths
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    Again, they are two completely different things. People who want to do something to meet a personal need versus one leader meeting another to harness relations between countries. These are not comparable in the context you are making out.

    Not comparable in your opinion nothing more. Martin can postpone until the country/world is in a better place. I'm sure Biden would have the ability to understand. Have the US ambassador present the bowl of weeds and let Martin Zoom call him.


  • #3355
    Drumpot
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Could nominate an Irish person already over there to do it , like would be an " Irish Ambassador " ...oh wait , we have an Irish Ambassador in America ?
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Not comparable in your opinion nothing more. Martin can postpone until the country/world is in a better place. I'm sure Biden would have the ability to understand. Have the US ambassador present the bowl of weeds and let Martin Zoom call him.



    The response is kind of ironic. Some of yee do not want the head of Irelands government to go over to America because it "doesnt look good", its optically sending out the wrong message.

    How does it look to the USA and the American president when our leader refuses to meet him and sends a nobody in his place ?

    Diplomacy and harnessing relations is more complex then what some of you understand. I cannot harness the same relationship with clients in zoom calls that I do when I am with them personally. As somebody in a sales role (which is what diplomacy can be) its not the same and its not the same sending an employee (ambassador), you look after your top clients yourself.

    I understand why it looks bad, but fundamentally disagree with sentiments that its the wrong call. Dont care if Martin is doing it "for his ego", regardless I think an Irish leaders presence at these events is better for us all.


  • #3356
    KrustyUCC
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Hopefully cases stay below 1k mark but shouldn't be much more over all going well so

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1356621905743200261

    That's a good figure today for swabs

    Nice to see back to back days under 1000 for the first time in quite a while

    Hopefully case numbers will be decent later


  • #3357
    Plumbthedepths
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    Kunta Kinte wrote: »
    Maybe maybe not. The article in the link that you posted doesn`t make a definite case either way. Anyway this is off topic. Is MM definitely categorically going to Washington?

    It's you that said it's not a weed. You were wrong accept and move on.


  • #3358
    Plumbthedepths
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    The response is kind of ironic. Some of yee do not want the head of Irelands government to go over to America because it "doesnt look good", its optically sending out the wrong message.

    How does it look to the USA and the American president when our leader refuses to meet him and sends a nobody in his place ?

    Diplomacy and harnessing relations is more complex then what some of you understand. I cannot harness the same relationship with clients in zoom calls that I do when I am with them personally. As somebody in a sales role (which is what diplomacy can be) its not the same and its not the same sending an employee (ambassador), you look after your top clients yourself.

    I understand why it looks bad, but fundamentally disagree with sentiments that its the wrong call. Dont care if Martin is doing it "for his ego", regardless I think an Irish leaders presence at these events is better for us all.

    Refuses to meet him?
    Simple Martin rings Joe. ' Joe bit of a bind here, I won't allow my country men leave the state for a spurious reason. So it looks bad if I do to give you a bowl of weeds. Next year ok?'
    Joe's response ' no problems Micky ( friends) I understand it would look terrible. See you in '22.
    Hypothetical of course.
    Doesn't look good, no it looks absolutely terrible during a pandemic. Zoom, thousands do it everyday.


  • #3359
    froog
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    The response is kind of ironic. Some of yee do not want the head of Irelands government to go over to America because it "doesnt look good", its optically sending out the wrong message.

    How does it look to the USA and the American president when our leader refuses to meet him and sends a nobody in his place ?

    Diplomacy and harnessing relations is more complex then what some of you understand. I cannot harness the same relationship with clients in zoom calls that I do when I am with them personally. As somebody in a sales role (which is what diplomacy can be) its not the same and its not the same sending an employee (ambassador), you look after your top clients yourself.

    I understand why it looks bad, but fundamentally disagree with sentiments that its the wrong call. Dont care if Martin is doing it "for his ego", regardless I think an Irish leaders presence at these events is better for us all.

    lol biden wouldn't give a fcuk, come on. he would completely understand, he is busy fighting one of the worst covid spots in the world himself after all.

    i guarantee you it's seen as nothing more than a minor photo op in the states. (one of 27 state leader visits in 2019 for example). the self importance of some irish people is really hilarious.


  • #3360
    KrustyUCC
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I see Martin will be heading on an essential trip to present an elderly gentleman a bowl of weeds for Paddy's Day. If only someone invented a means to interact on the internet, ah well.
    Do as I say not as I do.

    I wonder will Martin pay his €500 fine for non essential travel?

    Don't worry plebs ye need to stay at home and don't forget no holidays abroad for the year while I can go as I please

    Tone deaf from Martin but he's grabbing probably his only chance to go as he's deeply unpopular even within his own party


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  • #3361
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,315 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Drumpot wrote: »
    The response is kind of ironic. Some of yee do not want the head of Irelands government to go over to America because it "doesnt look good", its optically sending out the wrong message.

    How does it look to the USA and the American president when our leader refuses to meet him and sends a nobody in his place ?

    Diplomacy and harnessing relations is more complex then what some of you understand. I cannot harness the same relationship with clients in zoom calls that I do when I am with them personally. As somebody in a sales role (which is what diplomacy can be) its not the same and its not the same sending an employee (ambassador), you look after your top clients yourself.

    I understand why it looks bad, but fundamentally disagree with sentiments that its the wrong call. Dont care if Martin is doing it "for his ego", regardless I think an Irish leaders presence at these events is better for us all.

    Yes, ironic that I agree with that other poster maybe :)

    Not a bit saying its MM's ego , just unnecessary and inessential in a pandemic , especially when we know Joe Biden is taking this so seriously he would totally understand and respect the Taoiseach's decision to abort the meeting until everything safer .
    If be that next year ,then so be it .
    Very likely Joe will not want anything from Ireland this year , shamrock , or anything else , and will still be a top fan.


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