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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • #1322
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Overheal wrote: »
    So much for the GOPs desire for media toughness. Marjorie Taylor Greene has reporter ejected for daring to answer a question about her endorsement of democrat-assassination fantasies

    https://twitter.com/meredithawrcb/status/1354583053444780032?s=21
    [url]

    Video is up now, pretty milquetoast though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkzIAX0RiRo


  • #1323
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    No need to inch towards insults.

    I am saying it as it is.

    To coordinate children into the correct location for a photo, does not require you to run your fingers through their hair, smell their hair, or put your hands on their hips or shoulders.

    It is not appropriate the way he is conducting himself in that footage with young girls.

    Did anyone make a complaint? Any social services intervene?


  • #1324
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    That'd be a no from me dawg.

    Dawg. Jesus.


  • #1325
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Some people will jump the gun and claim it demonstrates that he is a pervert, others will jump the gun and claim that it demonstrates that he is instead simply socially inept, whereas the majority (including me) will fall into a middle category and say that he just behaves as if it is still 1970.

    While many of those against his politics will say that he is a pervert and the majority who defend him will he say that he is socially inept, the truth is that this video is not enough to claim either of those things, but the confirmation bias of both camps will continue to categorise him as one or the other even though he's most likely neither.


  • #1326
    WrenBoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Dawg. Jesus.

    :rolleyes: whoosh !


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  • #1327
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Remember when this thread used to be about the Biden Presidency? Pepperidge Farm remembers.


  • #1328
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Some people will jump the gun and claim it demonstrates that he is a pervert, others will jump the gun and claim that it demonstrates that he is instead simply socially inept, whereas the majority (including me) will fall into a middle category and say that he just behaves as if it is still 1970.

    While many of those against his politics will say that he is a pervert and the majority who defend him will he say that he is socially inept, the truth is that this video is not enough to claim either of those things, but the confirmation bias of both camps will continue to categorise him as one or the other even though he's most likely neither.

    Thank you for your very grounded and rational offering.

    If i was to Pidgeon hole myself in one or other of the categories of politics in the united states i would say Democrats.

    However, just because i would say that doesn't mean anyone who is democrat is then out of bounds to be to be picked up on their behavior.

    All that said, i dont really see what the 1970's has to do with it, the man has just been elected president of the united states, he should know what is acceptable and what is not, and being that hands on with peoples young daughters was no more acceptable in the 70's than it is today.


  • #1329
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,037 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    So, by way of criticism we have "creepy joe" tropes and the fact that he has a rolex watch. Have we had any "sleepy joe" stuff yet? Just waiting for a full house on my bullsh1t bingo card...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #1330
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Thank you for your very grounded and rational offering.

    If i was to Pidgeon hole myself in one or other of the categories of politics in the united states i would say Democrats.

    However, just because i would say that doesn't mean anyone who is democrat is then out of bounds to be to be picked up on their behavior.

    All that said, i dont really see what the 1970's has to do with it, the man has just been elected president of the united states, he should know what is acceptable and what is not, and being that hands on with peoples young daughters was no more acceptable in the 70's than it is today.

    It actually was quite acceptable back then (and even beyond). If you have a look at videos of politicians interacting with children back then as well as children in similar situations, e.g. children interacting with TV hosts on a show, they are just as "handsy" as Biden is now. And if the parents are also present they are smiling away without any concern.

    This is however why "acting as if it's the 70s" should be seen as a middle ground. Even though there is nothing wrong with his moral compass as you claim if that's the case, he should still be able to adapt to the times if he is indeed socially competent rather than inept.

    However, neither the case of him "acting like it's the 70s" nor the case of him being socially inept are that important politics wise nor do they really question his integrity or morality. So, in my opinion, it's merely a flaw in his personality and not a valid point to make when trying to criticise him as president or criticise America for voting him president.


  • #1331
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Thank you for your very grounded and rational offering.

    If i was to Pidgeon hole myself in one or other of the categories of politics in the united states i would say Democrats.

    However, just because i would say that doesn't mean anyone who is democrat is then out of bounds to be to be picked up on their behavior.

    All that said, i dont really see what the 1970's has to do with it, the man has just been elected president of the united states, he should know what is acceptable and what is not, and being that hands on with peoples young daughters was no more acceptable in the 70's than it is today.

    Are you referring to something he has done since he was elected President, seeing as you said that that is relevant, or do you want to talk about something from years while saying that what was going on years ago, is not important?


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  • #1332
    Ronaldinho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    Overheal wrote: »
    Remember when this thread used to be about the Biden Presidency? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

    That's a bit rich coming from you given your post #1319 which is so far removed from the Biden Presidency.


  • #1333
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ronaldinho wrote: »
    That's a bit rich coming from you given your post #1319 which is so far removed from the Biden Presidency.

    A member of the 117th Congress? Who has endorsed assassination of Democrats, the party of Joe Biden? :confused:


  • #1334
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Overheal wrote: »
    A member of the 117th Congress? Who has endorsed assassination of Democrats, the party of Joe Biden? :confused:

    And who submitted papers calling for the impeachment of President Biden less than a week in to his term.
    She herself is clamouring to be discussed in relation to Biden.


  • #1335
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    What I’m concerned about is the Republican leadership in the House of Representatives, who is willing to overlook, ignore, those statements, assigning her to the Education Committee when she has mocked the killing of little children at Sandy Hook Elementary School, when she has mocked the killing of teenagers in a high school at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, what could they be thinking? Or is thinking too generous a word for what they might be doing?

    It’s absolutely appalling, and I think that the focus has to be on the Republican leadership of this House of Representatives for the disregard they have for the death of those children.

    Not only are they not interested in gun safety and gun violence prevention by passing legislation for background checks legislation, which is overwhelmingly supported in a bipartisan way in the country, but to have someone who would mock, call it a fake event, is just beyond, it’s just beyond any understanding of any regard that the House Republicans would have for the House of Representatives, for the Congress of the United States, and for the heartbreak of the families at Sandy Hook and at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. It’s really beyond the pale. You’re just going to have to ask them why they thought that that raised itself to the level of something appropriate to do in the Congress of the United States.

    - Speaker Pelosi


  • #1336
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,642 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    In Biden Presidency news, Biden signs an exec order to reverse the so-called Mexico City policy that Trump expanded, eliminating funding for foreign non-profits that promote or practice abortion. So, that policy is gone, all to the good. In addition, Biden issued an order to the HHS to 'consider' rescinding Trump's restrictions on Title X providers, who provide family planning/breast cancer screening/sex education. Trump's change (no funding if you refer to an abortion provider), meant about 25% of the clinics closed as they lost funding. Hopefully HHS undoes this Trump disaster and moves on. In addition, at least 1 Senator is introducing legislation to remove the Mexico City policy permanently.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/28/politics/biden-abortion-executive-orders/index.html


  • #1337
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It actually was quite acceptable back then .

    I would just say, your opening line i wouldnt agree with.

    It was accepted back then, that doesn't make it acceptable.

    In regards to being a good politician, thats not what we are talking about here.

    Phil Hogan got the heave-ho for golf gate, because what he did was not acceptable.

    what ever way anyone wants to try and square this, his hands all over the girls in that video is not acceptable from anyone, and someone who holds the highest office in the land of America should be held to a higher account.

    Would you think it alright if micheal martin was doing this?


  • #1338
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    It was accepted back then, that doesn't make it acceptable.

    At the time, it was both accepted and acceptable.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    In regards to being a good politician, thats not what we are talking about here.

    That's exactly what we're talking about. You're suggesting that these actions make him unsuitable to be president.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Phil Hogan got the heave-ho for golf gate, because what he did was not acceptable.

    That's not in anyway comparable. Phil Hogan went against health restrictions and possibly endangered lives in the process. Biden was as "handsy" as many of his generation are used to being but not as "handsy" as succeeding generations are used to.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    what ever way anyone wants to try and square this, his hands all over the girls in that video is not acceptable from anyone, and someone who holds the highest office in the land of America should be held to a higher account.

    In your opinion, his hands were "all over them". To most people, they weren't.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Would you think it alright if micheal martin was doing this?

    Yes I would. As a counter, do you think you would find it as creepy if those actions were done by a 30 year old woman rather than Biden?


  • #1339
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    AOC going to town on Treasonous Ted again :pac:

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1354848253729234944?s=20


  • #1340
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Deleted User wrote: »
    At the time, it was both accepted and acceptable.

    No, it is not acceptable
    Deleted User wrote: »
    That's exactly what we're talking about. You're suggesting that these actions make him unsuitable to be president.

    My misunderstanding so, the thread title doesn't obviously say we discuss matters pertaining to his political ability, the man has made it be president of America, i dont think his political ability and shrewdness is up for question.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    That's not in anyway comparable. Phil Hogan went against health restrictions and possibly endangered lives in the process. Biden was as "handsy" as many of his generation are used to being but not as "handsy" as succeeding generations are used to.

    Ahh hold on a second, where in the world are you pulling this narrative out of that people from the 70's are more used to being 'handsy' as you put it.

    Its normal putting your hand on the outside of someones arm as they stand on one side of you as a gesture of kindness for a photo.

    Putting your hand on the upper hip of a girl that age is way way bang out of order, not just being 'Handsy'
    Deleted User wrote: »
    In your opinion, his hands were "all over them". To most people, they weren't.

    They were on,

    Hair
    Shoulders
    Inner arm
    Outer arm
    Waist

    Getting around a bit to be fair.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes I would. As a counter, do you think you would find it as creepy if those actions were done by a 30 year old woman rather than Biden?

    If the woman didnt know the child yes, but not by the same magnitude as an elderly man.

    Anyway, none of us are going to change our view no matter how much we go back and forth.

    I find it creepy, Pervy and totally inappropriate.


  • #1341
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Anyway, none of us are going to change our view no matter how much we go back and forth.

    Thanks, most of us don't care about your faux outrage.


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  • #1342
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    I would just say, your opening line i wouldnt agree with.

    It was accepted back then, that doesn't make it acceptable.

    In regards to being a good politician, thats not what we are talking about here.

    Phil Hogan got the heave-ho for golf gate, because what he did was not acceptable.

    what ever way anyone wants to try and square this, his hands all over the girls in that video is not acceptable from anyone, and someone who holds the highest office in the land of America should be held to a higher account.

    Would you think it alright if micheal martin was doing this?

    A quick question, has there ever been any complaints made against Biden in relation to this? I mean the "evidence" is there right? Have any of the parents ever made complaints against him? Have any of the kids made complaints later in life?


  • #1343
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Overheal wrote: »
    Thanks, most of us don't care about your faux outrage.

    I knew that before i ever typed a single word on here.


  • #1344
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    No, it is not acceptable

    Yes, it is not acceptable, However, it was acceptable.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    My misunderstanding so, the thread title doesn't obviously say we discuss matters pertaining to his political ability, the man has made it be president of America, i dont think his political ability and shrewdness is up for question.

    The only reason this thread is active on a daily basis is because people who wanted Trump to win are questioning his political ability to still feel relevant.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Ahh hold on a second, where in the world are you pulling this narrative out of that people from the 70's are more used to being 'handsy' as you put it.

    Thats not normal putting your hand on the outside of someones arm as they stand on one side of you as a gesture of kindness for a photo.

    Putting your hand on the upper hip of a girl that age is way way bang out of order, not just being 'Handsy'

    If you want I can show you some clips of people from that era being as "handsy" with children on show and no one being bothered by it, including their parents if they're present.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Hair
    Shoulders
    Inner arm
    Outer arm
    Waist

    Getting around a bit to be fair.

    And most people will say he was moving her hair back for a better photo, that there's nothing wrong with hands on a child's shoulders for a photo etc., and anything else you deem inappropriate is simply because he is out of touch or socially inept rather than creepy.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    If the woman didnt know the child yes, but not by the same magnitude as an elderly man.

    And why do you think that is? What does that tell you? Would you be more inclined to believe that it's because that woman is socially inept rather than creepy?
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Anyway, none of us are going to change our view no matter how much we go back and forth.

    Welcome to an internet discussion, where everyone is right and no one is wrong.
    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    I find it creepy, Pervy and totally inappropriate.

    But by your own admission, you would be less inclined to feel that way based on that person's age and gender. In what way is that fair?


  • #1345
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,602 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    As President for the next 4 years, he's unlikely to be left alone in a room with a little girl anyway.

    There is no plan for what to do if Biden is removed from office immediately. The Republicans will try to just jump right back in. Removing Joe Biden would be an unstable and stupid move.

    This too shall pass.



  • #1346
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    I knew that before i ever typed a single word on here.

    Why don't you start your own thread for the Joe Biden faux outrage then? We are trying to talk policy and government in here.


  • #1347
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    flazio wrote: »
    As President for the next 4 years, he's unlikely to be left alone in a room with a little girl anyway.

    There is no plan for what to do if Biden i
    Why would he be removed and why would the Reps try and "jump back in"?


  • #1348
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    I knew that before i ever typed a single word on here.

    And yet you claim to be not biased.....


  • #1349
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    flazio wrote: »
    As President for the next 4 years, he's unlikely to be left alone in a room with a little girl anyway.

    There is no plan for what to do if Biden is removed from office immediately. The Republicans will try to just jump right back in. Removing Joe Biden would be an unstable and stupid move.

    There's a very clear plan. Kamala Harris would become the President. There would be no question of the Republicans jumping back in.


  • #1350
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    I knew that before i ever typed a single word on here.


    Don't lose heart. You might get a bit of mileage out of Hunter Biden's laptop.


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  • #1351
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Zak Hudak (@cbszak) Tweeted:
    A second police officer has committed suicide after responding to the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol. Officer Jeffrey Smith took his own life, the acting DC MPD chief told the House Appropriations Cmte yesterday, per his prepared remarks https://twitter.com/cbszak/status/1354465078343585798?s=20

    Right wing or left wing I think we can all agree this is sad news and shows how bad it must of been during those Capitol riots.


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