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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #9812
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    So, Drew Harris is a life long police man.
    Is this just a statement of fact or are you offering some kind of insight?


  • #9813
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1353729647595421696


  • #9814
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    1084 swabs, +7.28% positivity rate (Monday)

    Good :)

    Brilliant to see


  • #9815
    sideswipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    Just realised I haven't had so much in a sniffle in a whole year, usually have 2 or 3 head colds/sore throat per yr.

    When/if this ever ends, our immune systems will be as effective as an ashtray on a motorbike.


  • #9816
    BredonWimsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    sideswipe wrote: »
    Just realised I haven't had so much in a sniffle in a whole year, usually have 2 or 3 head colds/sore throat per yr.

    When/if this ever ends, our immune systems will be as effective as an ashtray on a motorbike.


    its crazy isnt it - havent had a cold either - just goes to show how contagious viruses really are doesnt it - wouldnt have realised it otherwise


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  • #9817
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,617 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    sideswipe wrote: »
    Just realised I haven't had so much in a sniffle in a whole year, usually have 2 or 3 head colds/sore throat per yr.

    When/if this ever ends, our immune systems will be as effective as an ashtray on a motorbike.

    I was just thinking the same, i'm usually DYING around xmas. But this year i was able to eat every mince pie that came within a nautical mile of me.

    But hey, it'll be better than catching COVID


  • #9818
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,089 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    if people, especially when not feeling well, wore a mask as a matter of course from here on out, you will see a lot less flu's etc.


  • #9819
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    if people, especially when not feeling well, wore a mask as a matter of course from here on out, you will see a lot less flu's etc.

    I'd rather a cold myself than walking around with my glasses getting fogged up every 10 seconds


  • #9820
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    sideswipe wrote: »
    Just realised I haven't had so much in a sniffle in a whole year, usually have 2 or 3 head colds/sore throat per yr.

    When/if this ever ends, our immune systems will be as effective as an ashtray on a motorbike.
    I'm not sure how much the old thinking of "keeping your immune system primed" is valid tbh. I heard people say the same thing early last year.

    But by the same token, fighting off a number of infections in a row can leave you compromised. Things like post-viral fatigue which may be virtually undetectable when you're feeling OK will still leave you vulnerable to new infections.

    So 12-18 months of figurately doing nothing might be incredibly restorative for the immune systems of those who find themselves rolling from cough to cold to headache half the year 'round.

    Other factors of course - continuously elevated stress levels, low activity levels, higher alcohol intake - could offset any beneficial effects, and we might see a tail out of this thing where we see slightly higher death rates and poorer overall health for a couple of years.


  • #9821
    zuutroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Here's the normalised comparison of this recovery compared to the October/November edition. No sign that the more transmissive strains are causing difficulty, no sign of disappointing level-off we saw towards the end of November. Even if the decay rate halved between now and Feb 8th, we'd be below 500 a day that week. At current pace we should be there the week of the 1st, when the schools reopen :p

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  • #9822
    bikeman1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    While it will be good to see close contact testing recommencing, I'm of the opinion that it won't lead to a big increase in cases as some might fear.

    Anyone I know who has been a close contact have either lied and made up symptoms or arranged a private test for themselves if they were not sick. They just felt that they had to know as restricting your movements is vastly different to being in isolation when in a household. They really didn't want to spread it any further and went into isolation pending their test. The current positivity rates show that many are not positive so, someone has to be getting tested even if not sick.

    Anyone who has been sick, has been tested. GP's have been referring with any symptom showing it seems.


  • #9823
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Yeah. I am not on board with the "ye need to be dying a few times a year to be immunologically strong" idea. It has to be draining.


  • #9824
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    In some ways its falling faster than it did in the spring. 7 day average Positive rate took 26 days from 23.2% to under 10% in April. This time from 22.7% to under 10 took 17 days


  • #9825
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Is this just a statement of fact or are you offering some kind of insight?

    Seeing as you saw fit to throw your oar in regarding my reply to a poster who stated that the HSE needed a outsider such as the Gardai did, let me correct your statement re the HSE CEO.He was not always a public servant and besides working as one for most of his time is not the same as a him spending all his time with the HSE He was recruited as an outsider. Is that enough insight for you smart ass.


  • #9826
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Yeah. I am not on board with the "ye need to be dying a few times a year to be immunologically strong" idea. It has to be draining.

    You only live twice, Mrs Gruffalux

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  • #9827
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Someone I know has been referred for a test but is not driving.

    They will have to wait 5 to 7 days for the ambulance service to test them.

    Does anyone know if they will get the PUP payment for the time they are waiting?


  • #9828
    pauldry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Prob around 1300 cases today so.

    I personally think all restrictions should stay in place until March 1st. Then we will be well on top of this and Summer and vaccines will do the rest.


  • #9829
    accensi0n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    pauldry wrote: »
    and Summer and vaccines will do the rest.

    What will summer do?


  • #9830
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    accensi0n wrote: »
    What will summer do?

    People will be outside more and while indoors will have more open windows/ventilation so transmission will reduce a lot.


  • #9831
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    GeorgeBailey wrote: »
    People will be outside more and while indoors will have more open windows/ventilation so transmission will reduce a lot.

    I severely doubt that.

    The virus is transmitting from other people, so if you're out and about with much more interaction (as opposed to holed up in the house), then it'll spread more, not less.


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  • #9832
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    Gradius wrote: »
    I severely doubt that.

    The virus is transmitting from other people, so if you're out and about with much more interaction (as opposed to holed up in the house), then it'll spread more, not less.

    Compare and contrast last summer where we had fewer restrictions than we did in December but rates of transmission absolutely rocketed during winter for very obvious reasons.

    That doesn't mean there won't be restrictions needed in summer just that some level of opening up won't be as disastrous as it would be in winter. Add vaccines to the mix and the summer shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as what we're currently going through.


  • #9833
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Probably posted already but NPHET briefing at 6.30ish https://twitter.com/juneshannon/status/1353739441614032896?s=19


  • #9834
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    UK cases dropping quick enough now as well. At 22,195 for today


  • #9835
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Mimon wrote: »
    Someone I know has been referred for a test but is not driving.

    They will have to wait 5 to 7 days for the ambulance service to test them.

    Does anyone know if they will get the PUP payment for the time they are waiting?

    I would imagine they would be eligible for enhanced illness benefit rather than the PUP (still pays €350)

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/disability_and_illness/covid19_enhanced_illness_benefit.html#


    Slightly off topic, but I find that to be an awful waste of resources. Can they not have swabbers driving around in their cars, like the community nurse, and not be using up paramedics and ambulances. People would also probably get tested sooner too.


  • #9836
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I want more evidence about these variants.

    The media are spouting nonsense daily about how they are dangerous and more hyperbole

    It is now almost an accepted truth that these variants are driving a different type of spread but there is no tangible evidence.

    Shocking misinformation.

    It is flabbergasting nobody has sought to investigate this further.


  • #9837
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    I want more evidence about these variants.

    The media are spouting nonsense daily about how they are dangerous and more hyperbole

    It is no almost an accepted truth that these variants are driving a different type of spread but there is no tangible evidence.

    Shocking misinformation.

    It is flabbergasting nobody has sought to investigate this further.

    It is being investigated further. The UKs analysis from multiple different areas suggested greater transmission. There is the researchers eyes tangible evidence. Their paper is still in preprints though awaiting peer review. Will have to wait and see.

    These things take time. You don't get all the answers at once. The preliminary dara and analysis is enough to suggest precaution. Maybe that can be relaxed but based on the initial findings it's best to be safe rather than sorry.

    Relevant Paper (pre print):
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.30.20249034v2

    South Africa variant arguably has even more analysis than the UK. That one is imo of more concern rightly so.


  • #9838
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    I want more evidence about these variants.

    The media are spouting nonsense daily about how they are dangerous and more hyperbole

    It is now almost an accepted truth that these variants are driving a different type of spread but there is no tangible evidence.

    Shocking misinformation.

    It is flabbergasting nobody has sought to investigate this further.

    They are being investigated but it will take more time. Agreed the media are massively jumping the gun on this with very scant actual evidence, particularly on vaccine effectiveness.


  • #9839
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    That's around 7.10 Irish time I think.

    Heh, probably


  • #9840
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    DebDynamite wrote: »
    I would imagine they would be eligible for enhanced illness benefit rather than the PUP (still pays €350)

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/disability_and_illness/covid19_enhanced_illness_benefit.html#


    Slightly off topic, but I find that to be an awful waste of resources. Can they not have swabbers driving around in their cars, like the community nurse, and not be using up paramedics and ambulances. People would also probably get tested sooner too.

    Thanks, found that too and passed it on to them.

    Agree regarding the resource issue with the use of Ambulances. Maybe HSE could rent some vans. Long wait as well.


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  • #9841
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    I want more evidence about these variants.

    The media are spouting nonsense daily about how they are dangerous and more hyperbole

    It is now almost an accepted truth that these variants are driving a different type of spread but there is no tangible evidence.

    Shocking misinformation.

    It is flabbergasting nobody has sought to investigate this further.

    In fairness, Micheal Martin is saying the same most days too. They're just quoting him.


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