Second hand tractors are gone expensive

TooOldBoots · 23-01-2021 11:39PM

Who2 wrote: »

I’d find it hard to believe the hours on that tractor.it may be genuine but it looks too good to be true for a tractor of that size.

I doubt it too, that tractor shipped from new with Michelin agribib tyres, those are not Michelin on it and they are down to about 40% so god knows how many hours are really up on it. Also it has an Iveco 6.8L 6-cyl diesel which does not hold up as well as a Perkins engine when the hour get high, it will getvery smokey on big hours. Still plenty of grunt if you got it cheap enough

White Clover · 23-01-2021 11:43PM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

I doubt it too, that tractor shipped from new with Michelin agribib tyres, those are not Michelin on it and they are down to about 40% so god knows how many hours are really up on it. Also it has an Iveco 6.8L 6-cyl diesel which does not hold up as well as a Perkins engine when the hour get high

It's dog rough. Rotten mudguards, front fenders missing, cab upholstery inside the door is torn, rusted rims. It has the look of a tired ol yoke.

lab man · 23-01-2021 11:46PM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Big horse of a tractor, the 6 pot would be ideal for pto heavy jobs like running an Agitator

yes it has an intercooled perkins 1104c-44t, great engine but not a Contractor spec tractor @ 115hp

There isn't a hope them hrs are genuine

Bass Reeves · 23-01-2021 11:48PM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

The fella selling that tractor is a contractor, I recognise the house as I went to see a tractor he was selling a few years back for a neighbour.
Look elsewhere is all I'll say.

Having said all that the tractor is imported from the UK mainland. Its being sold through a tractor dealership.

However its like buying any tractor a distance away you need to get it checked out

straight · 23-01-2021 11:51PM

lab man wrote: »

There isn't a hope them hrs are genuine

Could be 15k hours. Gone around like.

White Clover · 23-01-2021 11:58PM

lab man wrote: »

I'm thinking of a 2006 mc cormick mc 115 if I can get a tidy one I think they have a perkins engine?

I think the same engine is in a Massey 6265. It'd be a much heavier duty tractor than the McCormick and would have the popular Dynashift gearbox too.

lab man · 24-01-2021 12:03AM

straight wrote: »

Could be 15k hours. Gone around like.

Youd see the lads in england if u keep an eye on farming forum etc saying that they saw a tractor the traded with 15 18 20 k hrs on them with a different seat on them not new though with the hrs always changed to 7 or 8.5 hrs on them why them hrs is because clutches and packs go around them hrs so if the give trouble the guy selling says a shur at 7 or 8 k these things happen

Castlekeeper · 24-01-2021 12:05AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Having said all that the tractor is imported from the UK mainland. Its being sold through a tractor dealership.

However its like buying any tractor a distance away you need to get it checked out

Shouldn't that be a capital M?

"Fog on the channel, Continent cut off"

TooOldBoots · 24-01-2021 12:23AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Having said all that the tractor is imported from the UK mainland. Its being sold through a tractor dealership.

However its like buying any tractor a distance away you need to get it checked out

That cx is a respray job, back tyres worn more than the fronts so it's been carrying something on the lift arms (I bet a hedge-cutter)
7500 hours lol, yeah right

Bass Reeves · 24-01-2021 12:51AM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

That cx is a respray job, back tyres worn more than the fronts so it's been carrying something on the lift arms (I bet a hedge-cutter)
7500 hours lol, yeah right

She has all the signs of a well minded tractor. Now its hard to tell from photos . However those CX show abuse very easy. She has not the signs of a tractor had stuff belting off it. While the rear end has been painted black this is common on all tractors that age now. Rear arms ball holders show very little wear and catches for ball holders look perfect.

Engine covers on the sides take very little abuse and usually show any carelessness by previous owners. Only one catch missing on them. Inside front window catches on front still present as is door catch cover on RHS door. Not a complete respray. Most plastic body work looks like it is polished up rather than repainted. Towbar in slot by LHS wheel and while inner part of top link at back May have been replaced it is the original type. May have been a local authorities tractor in the UK. No lights or light covers are showing signs of recent replacement.. Both side mirrors missing but maybe they have been removed to stop lads stealing them

It a clean example but it is not tarted up IMHO. As well I said the hours were low on it as Rolson taught they were high

Ps just a couple other thinks the wheels rims do not look like they were resprayed. The upholstery is not torn inside especially on LHS from a passenger sitting on it. Clutch and brake pedals do not look as if they were touched up,. While there is wear on the yellow accelerator pedal it is very little

FintanMcluskey · 24-01-2021 12:51AM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

That cx is a respray job, back tyres worn more than the fronts so it's been carrying something on the lift arms (I bet a hedge-cutter)
7500 hours lol, yeah right

Is it not more likely the fronts wore down 1st and were replaced.

The fronts always go 1st regardless

K.G. · 24-01-2021 10:48AM

I wonder are secondhand teactors the same percentage cost of a new teactor all the time.in words was a 10 yearold tractor the % cost of the new one at the time 10 years ago as it is today.my rough guess is a 10 yearold tractor is 50 % of a new one today and 20 year old one is 25 % maybe a little more.does the new price set set the price of all tractors down the line not what was paid for it

TooOldBoots · 24-01-2021 11:00AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Is it not more likely the fronts wore down 1st and were replaced.

The fronts always go 1st regardless

Not that much of an uneven rate, theirs a big difference between the two

Bass Reeves wrote: »

She has all the signs of a well minded tractor. Now its hard to tell from photos . However those CX show abuse very easy. She has not the signs of a tractor had stuff belting off it. While the rear end has been painted black this is common on all tractors that age now. Rear arms ball holders show very little wear and catches for ball holders look perfect.

Engine covers on the sides take very little abuse and usually show any carelessness by previous owners. Only one catch missing on them. Inside front window catches on front still present as is door catch cover on RHS door. Not a complete respray. Most plastic body work looks like it is polished up rather than repainted. Towbar in slot by LHS wheel and while inner part of top link at back May have been replaced it is the original type. May have been a local authorities tractor in the UK. No lights or light covers are showing signs of recent replacement.. Both side mirrors missing but maybe they have been removed to stop lads stealing them

It a clean example but it is not tarted up IMHO. As well I said the hours were low on it as Rolson taught they were high

Ps just a couple other thinks the wheels rims do not look like they were resprayed. The upholstery is not torn inside especially on LHS from a passenger sitting on it. Clutch and brake pedals do not look as if they were touched up,. While there is wear on the yellow accelerator pedal it is very little

The whole tractor is resprayed, them cx go a kinda pink fade due to whatever paint Caseih were using back in the day. Look at the bonnet, they got sloppy and painted the black grill red.
Its funny how a paint job makes a well worn yolk look like a "well minded tractor"
Too many red flags for me, but it's no wonder lads with rosey glasses get caught with lemons

Reggie. · 24-01-2021 11:12AM

Why is there water in the cup holder?

tabby aspreme · 24-01-2021 11:23AM

There's a few CX and CS Case tractors, for auction this coming Tuesday in Wilson's auctions Belfast, all ex Government, form an orderly que please.

straight · 24-01-2021 11:28AM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Not that much of an uneven rate, theirs a big difference between the two

The whole tractor is resprayed, them cx go a kinda pink fade due to whatever paint Caseih were using back in the day. Look at the bonnet, they got sloppy and painted the black grill red.
Its funny how a paint job makes a well worn yolk look like a "well minded tractor"
Too many red flags for me, but it's no wonder lads with rosey glasses get caught with lemons

We've a tractor similar to that. Front tyres wore down and were replaced. Still on original tyres on the rear. I think them grills were red on some of them McCormicks.

lab man · 24-01-2021 11:34AM

Nice m100 on dd since last night asking for big money for a 23 yr old tractor too

jaymla627 · 24-01-2021 12:25PM

www.exporttractors.com is the place to go for older gear if you can arrange the haulage and don't mind having to retrofit a puh

liam7831 · 24-01-2021 12:36PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

www.exporttractors.com is the place to go for older gear if you can arrange the haulage and don't mind having to retrofit a puh

Most of their gear needs a lot more than a puh

kevthegaff · 25-01-2021 11:51PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/kubota-m8560/27072120
Not bad value

lab man · 26-01-2021 01:00AM

kevthegaff wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/kubota-m8560/27072120
Not bad value

I. Bought a 135gx here in june have to say the kubota are no bad tractor spool levers a little too far away only fault

Bass Reeves · 26-01-2021 01:43AM

kevthegaff wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/kubota-m8560/27072120
Not bad value

About 36k. However it only about 3 ton in weight and it's rear lift will just about handle one bale. Not sure of it's towing capacity but I hate to have a slurry tank behind it

Bass Reeves · 26-01-2021 01:55AM

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Not that much of an uneven rate, theirs a big difference between the two

The whole tractor is resprayed, them cx go a kinda pink fade due to whatever paint Caseih were using back in the day. Look at the bonnet, they got sloppy and painted the black grill red.
Its funny how a paint job makes a well worn yolk look like a "well minded tractor"
Too many red flags for me, but it's no wonder lads with rosey glasses get caught with lemons

The Cases go a kind of dull burgandy. It the McCormicks that go pink. If you have a decent screen on a labtop or a pad you see neither of the engines covers have been resprayed. There colour matches the bonnet cover colour. Ya there's paint on the black grid it may be historical or it may be where paint went on the grid when it was polished up. It not really strong enough to indicate being caught during a respray.

All the indications are it is worth a look if one was going North looking for a tractor like that. As I indicated I taught it's overpriced. I seldom look at the paint job on a tractor. Some dealers now do resprays as standard on tractors they bring in especially on smaller sub 100 hp tractor just like car dealers valet a car.

I seen worse yolks and went to see them. Like I said in one of my original post you need to get tractors checked out and IMO except for price that tractor looks straight from photos. However tractors can be deceiving in photos.

selectamatic · 26-01-2021 02:28AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

About 36k. However it only about 3 ton in weight and it's rear lift will just about handle one bale. Not sure of it's towing capacity but I hate to have a slurry tank behind it

Looks to have an assistor ram spec'd so that puts the rear lift to over 3000kg going by tractordata, the full set of weights upfront are a big plus too.

Bullocks · 26-01-2021 07:49AM

selectamatic wrote: »

Looks to have an assistor ram spec'd so that puts the rear lift to over 3000kg going by tractordata, the full set of weights upfront are a big plus too.

We lifted bales with smaller tractors ,that one would manage away too . But if you wanted to do your own slurry or use a double handler that tractor as a bit small for the job

blue5000 · 26-01-2021 11:52AM

OP how many hours a year will you put up on a tractor?

This could be an absolute money pit, or a rough diamond. Still lots of parts available, you'd want to love spanner work though. If the engine and gearbox are good, I think it is good value. You'd want to love them though.

BUT
Dry disc brakes are an issue, they can go on fire in dry dusty conditions.
Oil building up around the engine cooling fins can be a problem too as it's air cooled.
Engine oil filters can blow off:D
Lock wouldn't be great on the steering either so you would need a big yard and wide gaps.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/deutz-6-30/26080589

Or for similar money, I prefer this as I know them inside out at this stage

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-5000/26876648

lakill Farm · 27-01-2021 04:16PM

picked up the new to me fastrac yesterday evening, bought it end of November but the lad selling it had told me he needed it for 6/8 more weeks which was sound. he only put 20/22 hours on the clock in the time anyway

Bought it in north Tipp and back to north Westmeath 131km..

1hr 55 in the car
2hours 45 on the tractor including 4 garda checkpoints , 1 coffee stop and towns like Birr and tullamore to slow it up

Say my name · 27-01-2021 04:34PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

picked up the new to me fastrac yesterday evening, bought it end of November but the lad selling it had told me he needed it for 6/8 more weeks which was sound. he only put 20/22 hours on the clock in the time anyway

Bought it in north Tipp and back to north Westmeath 131km..

1hr 55 in the car
2hours 45 on the tractor including 4 garda checkpoints , 1 coffee stop and towns like Birr and tullamore to slow it up

Well may it ware.
And the best of luck.

What will you be using it for?

_Brian · 27-01-2021 04:37PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

picked up the new to me fastrac yesterday evening, bought it end of November but the lad selling it had told me he needed it for 6/8 more weeks which was sound. he only put 20/22 hours on the clock in the time anyway

Bought it in north Tipp and back to north Westmeath 131km..

1hr 55 in the car
2hours 45 on the tractor including 4 garda checkpoints , 1 coffee stop and towns like Birr and tullamore to slow it up

Serious bit of kit.
You’ll need a bigger digger now !

_Brian · 27-01-2021 04:40PM

blue5000 wrote: »

OP how many hours a year will you put up on a tractor?

This could be an absolute money pit, or a rough diamond. Still lots of parts available, you'd want to love spanner work though. If the engine and gearbox are good, I think it is good value. You'd want to love them though.

BUT
Dry disc brakes are an issue, they can go on fire in dry dusty conditions.
Oil building up around the engine cooling fins can be a problem too as it's air cooled.
Engine oil filters can blow off:D
Lock wouldn't be great on the steering either so you would need a big yard and wide gaps.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/deutz-6-30/26080589

Or for similar money, I prefer this as I know them inside out at this stage

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-5000/26876648

The Deutz is allot of tractor for the money, if mechanically good it seems value and a kick of paint would make it very presentable

Second hand tractors are gone expensive

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