Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

14-01-2021 03:14PM

Murpho999 wrote:

Also, the drug issue, completely separate. But maybe that should be looked at as many would argue that drugs are less harmful to society than alcohol.

Who are these people? Drug dealers?

murpho999 · 14-01-2021 03:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Who are these people? Drug dealers?

There's been lots of studies and reports of comparing harmful physical effects of alcohol and drugs and alcohol has more impact.
It's the addiction with drugs that leads to other problems.

Zaph · 14-01-2021 03:34PM

Macy0161 wrote: »

Was in an O'Briens at lunch - their craft beer shelves were labelled "€2.50 = 4 for €10" and "€3 = 3 for €9".

It possibly says a lot about the state of education in the country that they felt the need to spell that out, rather than assuming people would be able to figure it out themselves.

14-01-2021 03:44PM

Zaph wrote: »

It possibly says a lot about the state of education in the country that they felt the need to spell that out, rather than assuming people would be able to figure it out themselves.

It's a bit delboy-esque. "They're 2.50 each or two for a fiver"

ohnonotgmail · 14-01-2021 04:03PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Well my first 3 lines were just to show that i'm not someone who is anti drink or anything like that.
I also never said I abuse drink at all but find myself moderately drinking more as I work from home now and might have one or two beers during the week when I finish whereas normally I don't bother. Does not mean I have a problem with alcohol so there's no need for your lecture thank you.

Also if you read my post you'll see I was referring more to the separation of alcohol in the supermarkets, which I think makes sense and I never mentioned pricing at all.

In relation to pricing , I don't think it's as bad as people make out . I do however feel the legislation is coming from lobbying by publicans.

Either way I have not noticed any increase in price in my local supermarket this week.

I do think that smoking bans etc are comparable as they're laws designed to affect people's behaviour and were also met with a lot of opposition.

Also, the drug issue, completely separate. But maybe that should be looked at as many would argue that drugs are less harmful to society than alcohol.

the price increases haven't started yet just a ban on bundle deals.

Spanish Eyes · 14-01-2021 04:04PM

Next up is only allowing off sales between 2-5pm or something.

14-01-2021 04:05PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Next up is only allowing off sales between 2-5pm or something.

It wouldn't surprise me. Punish workers further. But little effect on the social classes.

Thelonious Monk · 14-01-2021 04:07PM

Next up will be MUP, but then they'll want half the beer label covered in cancer/mental health warnings.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try and ban it from supermarkets eventually and only have it in specialist shops.
It really irks me the Gov doing this to cater to a few arseholes, it makes me lose respect for the administration and the country in general.

Kivaro · 14-01-2021 04:09PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

.....
It really irks me the Gov doing this to cater to a few arseholes, it makes me lose respect for the administration and the country in general.

I'll drink to that.

Quackster · 14-01-2021 04:17PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the price increases haven't started yet just a ban on bundle deals.

That poster mustn't be a craft beer drinker.

As per my previous post, craft beer prices have very much gone up in the supermarkets this week since the €3 for €9 & €4 for €10 offers were banned.

14-01-2021 04:24PM

Quackster wrote: »

That poster mustn't be a craft beer drinker.

As per my previous post, craft beer prices have very much gone up in the supermarkets this week since the €3 for €9 & €4 for €10 offers were banned.

My dad likes the premade cans of Pina Colada. Usually 4 for 10 euro. Now, 2.60 each. Some things have already gone up in price.

I also wonder about the loyalty card thing. They've basically cancelled O'Brien's card now, because all you can use it for are crisps.

ohnonotgmail · 14-01-2021 04:25PM

Quackster wrote: »

That poster mustn't be a craft beer drinker.

As per my previous post, craft beer prices have very much gone up in the supermarkets this week since the €3 for €9 & €4 for €10 offers were banned.

no, the bundling offers have been banned as I said. the price increases i.e. MUP will come later.

Macy0161 · 14-01-2021 04:41PM

Zaph wrote: »

It possibly says a lot about the state of education in the country that they felt the need to spell that out, rather than assuming people would be able to figure it out themselves.

Well it was Bray...

It did just look like they'd put a "€2.50 =" sticker on top of the existing shelf label banner thing rather than redoing the whole thing.

I don't buy commercial or wine, so didn't even look to see what they'd done there, and I wouldn't have a reference point anyway.

jos28 · 14-01-2021 05:11PM

Just back from doing the 'Big' shop. I was prepared for no multi deals, no loyalty points on alcohol purchases. I didn't realise that alcohol does not count as part of your total shop. I had a voucher for €20 off every €100 spent , but that €100 total cannot include drink. No €20 off for me :mad:

kerryjack · 14-01-2021 05:23PM

Herself was out shopping and looking for her Friday night bottle of wine, she said its usual 10 but now 15 euro she not that happy, she working front line and that's the thanks she gets.

14-01-2021 05:31PM

kerryjack wrote: »

Herself was out shopping and looking for her Friday night bottle of wine, she said its usual 10 but now 15 euro she not that happy, she working front line and that's the thanks she gets.

Well I'd take that up with he supermarket or shop around as MUP has not come in yet, as was posted not that long ago here.

kerryjack · 14-01-2021 05:49PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well I'd take that up with he supermarket or shop around as MUP has not come in yet, as was posted not that long ago here.

Ya was thinking that I thing she is being a bit dramatic about it.

14-01-2021 06:00PM

kerryjack wrote: »

Herself was out shopping and looking for her Friday night bottle of wine, she said its usual 10 but now 15 euro she not that happy, she working front line and that's the thanks she gets.

I did a big shop order for Tesco a few days ago. They'd usually have a few cheapy 5 euro bottles. The cheapest I could find was 8, and the majority were 10-15+.

wonga77 · 14-01-2021 06:03PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

Wine prices haven't gone up though?

14-01-2021 06:24PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Wine prices haven't gone up though?

Promotions have been reduced. No more buy 6 bottles and get 10-20% off.

Anecdotal evidence on my part, but when there would always be one or two for 5 euros, the cheapest I could find was about 8. This was Tesco, and maybe Tesco alone decided to increase(or remove a previous decrease) in price, but the effect in my big shop was an increase in price.

wonga77 · 14-01-2021 06:29PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

Been ages since I saw a bottle of wine for a fiver but then I don't live near a Tesco so wouldn't be in there too often. I've seen bottles of wine for 5 and 6 in lidl alright but that was ages ago.
My brother lived in Madrid about 3 or 4 years ago. The exact same wine he could buy there for 4 euro is 14 here

jimmycrackcorm · 14-01-2021 06:29PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

kerryjack wrote: »

Herself was out shopping and looking for her Friday night bottle of wine, she said its usual 10 but now 15 euro she not that happy, she working front line and that's the thanks she gets.

My local centra often do a bottle of wine I like for about 8 euro on a half-price offer,. Every few weeks they put the price back up to 16 and after another week or so it gets reduced again. Makes you wonder...

Thelonious Monk · 14-01-2021 06:30PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Been ages since I saw a bottle of wine for a fiver but then I don't live near a Tesco so wouldn't be in there too often. I've seen bottles of wine for 5 and 6 in lidl alright but that was ages ago.
My brother lived in Madrid about 3 or 4 years ago. The exact same wine he could buy there for 4 euro is 14 here

You can get good bottles in Spain for 1.50 sometimes, I often have, and it's not like their salaries are 5 or 6 times ours, even though they're considerably less.

wonga77 · 14-01-2021 06:32PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

You can get good bottles in Spain for 1.50 sometimes, I often have.

Oh I know, he said spending 4 was splashing out

elperello · 14-01-2021 06:34PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I did a big shop order for Tesco a few days ago. They'd usually have a few cheapy 5 euro bottles. The cheapest I could find was 8, and the majority were 10-15+.

Tesco have wine for c. €3.90.
I saw it out of the corner of my eye yesterday. I think it's been that price for a couple of years.
I think it's Spanish both red and white versions.
Not giving any opinion on quality, buy one and try it.

Quackster · 14-01-2021 06:35PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no, the bundling offers have been banned as I said. the price increases i.e. MUP will come later.

I'm completely aware of that.

But for craft-beer drinkers like myself who previously picked up their preferred tipple in the supermarket, the ban on multi-buy offers IS a price increase.

Quackster · 14-01-2021 06:45PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

wonga77 wrote: »

Been ages since I saw a bottle of wine for a fiver but then I don't live near a Tesco so wouldn't be in there too often. I've seen bottles of wine for 5 and 6 in lidl alright but that was ages ago.
My brother lived in Madrid about 3 or 4 years ago. The exact same wine he could buy there for 4 euro is 14 here

Lidl had a few wines at six for €20 in the run-up to Christmas (€3.33 each). Somehow I doubt we'll ever see the likes of that here again!

weldoninhio · 14-01-2021 06:55PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Scotland introduced MUP a few years ago and I believe there were a number of EU investigations and court cases about it's validity before it was finally introduced.

And since then they’ve had absolutely huge numbers of drug deaths.

ohnonotgmail · 14-01-2021 07:45PM

elperello wrote: »

Tesco have wine for c. €3.90.
I saw it out of the corner of my eye yesterday. I think it's been that price for a couple of years.
I think it's Spanish both red and white versions.
Not giving any opinion on quality, buy one and try it.

at 3.90 practically all of the cost price is going to the government.

Mimon · 14-01-2021 07:46PM

elperello wrote: »

Tesco have wine for c. €3.90.
I saw it out of the corner of my eye yesterday. I think it's been that price for a couple of years.
I think it's Spanish both red and white versions.
Not giving any opinion on quality, buy one and try it.

Pure piss as you can imagine. The FIL was told not to drink it anymore by his doctor. Turns my stomach after 1 sip.

Would imagine it is more sugar than grape in origin.

Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

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