Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

14-01-2021 10:04AM

I'm not looking at models until Tuesday
If there's nothing by then more than normal short bursts of westerly Atlantic Hill slop in the outlook I'll be calling this a scamstrat as it will have had its 2 weeks plus and done nothing for Ireland anyway and won't want to hear anything about Stratospheric warming nonsense ever again

rbelmc · 14-01-2021 10:11AM

hi all
just a quick update from Sweden
winter has taken a firm grip since last week
the largest snowfalls in 10 years were recorded in the north of the country
Aspea had an incredible 113 cm in 36 hours and large parts in the north recorded snowfalls of between 75 and 100cm
virtually the whole of the country is snow covered now with depths of up to 20cm even in the south
the coldest temperature last night was -39 in the north
the first national ice day of the winter is expected tomorrow
hopefully the Irish weather can start coming from the North and East again so you can tap in to this cold air

gerrybhoy · 14-01-2021 10:19AM

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

It’s just icy rain/sleet in most of Scotland so that makes me feel slightly happier.

That's not true at-all

I'm from Scotland,family and friends on Facebook from a wide range of areas posting pictures and videos of heavy snow fall

mcburns07 · 14-01-2021 10:41AM

rbelmc wrote: »

hi all
just a quick update from Sweden
winter has taken a firm grip since last week
the largest snowfalls in 10 years were recorded in the north of the country
Aspea had an incredible 113 cm in 36 hours and large parts in the north recorded snowfalls of between 75 and 100cm
virtually the whole of the country is snow covered now with depths of up to 20cm even in the south
the coldest temperature last night was -39 in the north
the first national ice day of the winter is expected tomorrow
hopefully the Irish weather can start coming from the North and East again so you can tap in to this cold air

What part of Sweden are you living in? It's on my bucketlist to visit the north of Sweden some day

Nqp15hhu · 14-01-2021 10:52AM

gerrybhoy wrote: »

That's not true at-all

I'm from Scotland,family and friends on Facebook from a wide range of areas posting pictures and videos of heavy snow fall

Well that’s not what they were saying on netweather

gerrybhoy · 14-01-2021 11:02AM

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Well that’s not what they were saying on netweather

Unless my family and friends are making videos and photoshopping pictures then eh

giveitholly · 14-01-2021 11:05AM

Plenty of pictures/videos of snow in the uk this morning

Nqp15hhu · 14-01-2021 11:06AM

Great Britain..

Anyway, looking at radar it is mostly snowing on hills so do be realistic when you are saying snow. It is now raining in the centre of Glasgow.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-01-2021 11:15AM

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Great Britain..

Anyway, looking at radar it is mostly snowing on hills so do be realistic when you are saying snow. It is now raining in the centre of Glasgow.

11 cm of lying snow in Strathallan (35 m amsl) this morning.

https://meteologix.com/ie/observations/perthshire-and-kinross/weather-observation/20210114-0900z.html#obs-detail-031440

https://meteologix.com/ie/observations/9bf9b6df2472b53b5595bbf4f65d059f/snow-depth/20210114-0900z.html

Nqp15hhu · 14-01-2021 11:19AM

And my sis lives in Aberdeen and says it’s raining there. Shall we extrapolate that out to the whole area too then?

Gaoth Laidir · 14-01-2021 11:22AM

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

And my sis lives in Aberdeen and says it’s raining there. Shall we extrapolate that out to the whole area too then?

Closer to you, it's snowing in Bishopstown, Glasgow (59 m amsl) right now.

https://meteologix.com/ie/observations/north-ayshire/weather-observation/20210114-0900z.html#obs-detail-031340

Oneiric 3 · 14-01-2021 11:28AM

A bit on the nippy side in Connemara this morning:

gerrybhoy · 14-01-2021 11:31AM

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Great Britain..

Anyway, looking at radar it is mostly snowing on hills so do be realistic when you are saying snow. It is now raining in the centre of Glasgow.

Scotland,Lanarkshire, Glasgow,Fife,Edinburgh the list goes on,they all up until about a wee bit ago where getting snow,Glasgow centre is getting rain? Be specific here,Glasgow is a very large city

Nqp15hhu · 14-01-2021 11:36AM

gerrybhoy wrote: »

Scotland,Lanarkshire, Glasgow,Fife,Edinburgh the list goes on,they all up until about a wee bit ago where getting snow,Glasgow centre is getting rain? Be specific here,Glasgow is a very large city

I don’t need to be specific. Don’t say it’s snowing all over the place when it’s mostly on the hills.

14-01-2021 11:42AM

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I don’t need to be specific. Don’t say it’s snowing all over the place when it’s mostly on the hills.

To be fair,it is marginal but is snowing in some large urban areas in southern central Scotland and Northern England
Here's a selection of webcams in Leeds Bradford, Sheffield amongst others

https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/bradford_united-kingdom_2654993

gerrybhoy · 14-01-2021 11:47AM

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I don’t need to be specific. Don’t say it’s snowing all over the place when it’s mostly on the hills.

See that's when your caught talking bollocks sir

Most of the folk showing these pictures arent living in any hilly regions, areas of Glasgow,Penilee, Hillington Cardonald, those 3 for example are anything but near hills

Lanarkshire, Fife etc again arent notorious hilly places,see, if your going to post something at least get the facts correct instead of reading it off netweather

daniel_t1409 · 14-01-2021 11:53AM

Finally, some blue skies are appearing in wexford, probably won't last long though.

highdef · 14-01-2021 11:54AM

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I don’t need to be specific. Don’t say it’s snowing all over the place when it’s mostly on the hills.

Looking at Netweather radar, to me it looks like the vast majority of Scotland (and most of north England) is experiencing snow rather than rain. I just had a look at a webcam on George Square in the middle of Glasgow city and there's a slight covering in the grassy areas. As George Square is pretty much at sea level and in the middle of highly urban area, it would be reasonable to assume that the snow is not mainly on the hills.

Aberdeen and the rest of the east coast of Scotland is under the influence of an onshore breeze resulting in higher temperatures than most of Scotland and consequently is one of the few areas that is experiencing rain rather than snow.

pistolpetes11 · 14-01-2021 11:54AM

MOD NOTE

I get there maybe some tension with the flip flop of the charts , and rite now we sit with the flop in hand , but please keep it civil and stop trying to pick arguments

14-01-2021 11:59AM

Aberdeen and the rest of the east coast of Scotland is under the influence of an onshore breeze resulting in higher temperatures than most of Scotland and consequently is one of the few areas that is experiencing rain rather than snow.

A marine layer basically

sryanbruen · 14-01-2021 12:06PM

AuntySnow wrote: »

I'm not looking at models until Tuesday
If there's nothing by then more than normal short bursts of westerly Atlantic Hill slop in the outlook I'll be calling this a scamstrat as it will have had its 2 weeks plus and done nothing for Ireland anyway and won't want to hear anything about Stratospheric warming nonsense ever again

If you feel that way then fair enough. However, I will continue to post about the stratosphere ‘til the end of time or as long as I’m a weather enthusiast anyway as I find its variability and dynamic nature quite interesting irregardless of what happens at a tropospheric level. How it can vary from a very strong SPV to a very weak SPV in a matter of days via stratospheric warmings. It’s just all fascinating to me. It’s a continuously researched phenomena too so there’s always something new to learn and nothing is concrete. The stratosphere never “promised” anything, I think it’s people’s expectations getting the best of them (and I have done that before too *sigh*).

It’s unfortunate it is now used as another source that the media can “justify” their nonsense on that they pull out of their arse because of events like 2018. I do find that quite frustrating knowing that was the extreme end of tropospheric impacts and will highly unlikely see again anytime soon.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-01-2021 12:07PM

AuntySnow wrote: »

A marine layer basically

Or is it a warm sector?

14-01-2021 12:11PM

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Or is it a warm sector?

Careful now

14-01-2021 12:20PM

sryanbruen wrote: »

If you feel that way then fair enough. However, I will continue to post about the stratosphere ‘til the end of time or as long as I’m a weather enthusiast anyway as I find its variability and dynamic nature quite interesting irregardless of what happens at a tropospheric level. How it can vary from a very strong SPV to a very weak SPV in a matter of days via stratospheric warmings. It’s just all fascinating to me. It’s a continuously researched phenomena too so there’s always something new to learn and nothing is concrete. The stratosphere never “promised” anything, I think it’s people’s expectations getting the best of them (and I have done that before too *sigh*).

It’s unfortunate it is now used as another source that the media can “justify” their nonsense on that they pull out of their arse because of events like 2018. I do find that quite frustrating knowing that was the extreme end of tropospheric impacts and will highly unlikely see again anytime soon.

To be brutally honest,I've as much interest in the North Pole strat as I do in the Mars strat if it doesn't affect our weather
But I do read your interesting summaries of what's going on up there vs delving in myself
I do so I think with enough understanding to judge if there's going to be any impact down here
I still expect there will be,but am not interested in another week of time wasting flip flopping output watching ,I want the 2 to 3 weeks post major strat warm to play out to its bitter conclusion at this stage as my confidence of a response that affects us is low
So please don't take my views as a disrespect for your strat watch
Its very helpful

Humberto Salazar · 14-01-2021 12:26PM

Better get the lawnmower serviced going by GFS model. Blowtorch southwesterlies all the way. Well, almost.

Reckless Abandonment · 14-01-2021 12:35PM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

Better get the lawnmower serviced going by GFS model. Blowtorch southwesterlies all the way. Well, almost.

Ha. Just thinking the same. But I have to be honest people. I got a large delivery of wood for my stove on Tuesday. I may have jinxed things. Sorry

Thelonious Monk · 14-01-2021 12:44PM

Gorgeous in Dublin now, more of this please

TTLF · 14-01-2021 12:52PM

Finally the sun, I've missed the sun. Can January end now please? :pac:

For real though, I am very much enjoying the milder weather with sun for once. We had a great cold spell but it didn't deliver what we all wanted, so I'm happy to roll on the warmer summer/spring days now.

Thelonious Monk · 14-01-2021 12:53PM

Yeah i remember maybe 2 years ago we got a weekend in Feb where it was like 17c and beautiful blue skies, am I imagining this?

munsterlegend · 14-01-2021 12:55PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Ha. Just thinking the same. But I have to be honest people. I got a large delivery of wood for my stove on Tuesday. I may have jinxed things. Sorry

Yep all your fault. May you never see snow for a decade.

Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

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