Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

We seem to have missed all the rain since the weekend here in Cork. It's been grey and murky for the most part but just 1.6mm of rain since Sunday, and you have to go all the way back to Dec 27/28 for any rain of note prior to that, apart from a few snow showers during the cold spell.

Villain

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Some great bassy thunder in that but Jebus Christ, why do people insist on recording vertically? Braindead.

Instagram is why

daniel_t1409

Another dull morning in wexford.:(

I'm not looking at models until Tuesday
If there's nothing by then more than normal short bursts of westerly Atlantic Hill slop in the outlook I'll be calling this a scamstrat as it will have had its 2 weeks plus and done nothing for Ireland anyway and won't want to hear anything about Stratospheric warming nonsense ever again

rbelmc

hi all
just a quick update from Sweden
winter has taken a firm grip since last week
the largest snowfalls in 10 years were recorded in the north of the country
Aspea had an incredible 113 cm in 36 hours and large parts in the north recorded snowfalls of between 75 and 100cm
virtually the whole of the country is snow covered now with depths of up to 20cm even in the south
the coldest temperature last night was -39 in the north
the first national ice day of the winter is expected tomorrow
hopefully the Irish weather can start coming from the North and East again so you can tap in to this cold air

gerrybhoy

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

It’s just icy rain/sleet in most of Scotland so that makes me feel slightly happier.

That's not true at-all

I'm from Scotland,family and friends on Facebook from a wide range of areas posting pictures and videos of heavy snow fall

mcburns07

rbelmc wrote: »

hi all
just a quick update from Sweden
winter has taken a firm grip since last week
the largest snowfalls in 10 years were recorded in the north of the country
Aspea had an incredible 113 cm in 36 hours and large parts in the north recorded snowfalls of between 75 and 100cm
virtually the whole of the country is snow covered now with depths of up to 20cm even in the south
the coldest temperature last night was -39 in the north
the first national ice day of the winter is expected tomorrow
hopefully the Irish weather can start coming from the North and East again so you can tap in to this cold air

What part of Sweden are you living in? It's on my bucketlist to visit the north of Sweden some day

Nqp15hhu

gerrybhoy wrote: »

That's not true at-all

I'm from Scotland,family and friends on Facebook from a wide range of areas posting pictures and videos of heavy snow fall

Well that’s not what they were saying on netweather

gerrybhoy

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Well that’s not what they were saying on netweather

Unless my family and friends are making videos and photoshopping pictures then eh

giveitholly

Plenty of pictures/videos of snow in the uk this morning

Nqp15hhu

Great Britain..

Anyway, looking at radar it is mostly snowing on hills so do be realistic when you are saying snow. It is now raining in the centre of Glasgow.

Gaoth Laidir

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Great Britain..

Anyway, looking at radar it is mostly snowing on hills so do be realistic when you are saying snow. It is now raining in the centre of Glasgow.

11 cm of lying snow in Strathallan (35 m amsl) this morning.

https://meteologix.com/ie/observations/perthshire-and-kinross/weather-observation/20210114-0900z.html#obs-detail-031440

https://meteologix.com/ie/observations/9bf9b6df2472b53b5595bbf4f65d059f/snow-depth/20210114-0900z.html

Nqp15hhu

And my sis lives in Aberdeen and says it’s raining there. Shall we extrapolate that out to the whole area too then?

Gaoth Laidir

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

And my sis lives in Aberdeen and says it’s raining there. Shall we extrapolate that out to the whole area too then?

Closer to you, it's snowing in Bishopstown, Glasgow (59 m amsl) right now.

https://meteologix.com/ie/observations/north-ayshire/weather-observation/20210114-0900z.html#obs-detail-031340

Oneiric 3

A bit on the nippy side in Connemara this morning:

gerrybhoy

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Great Britain..

Anyway, looking at radar it is mostly snowing on hills so do be realistic when you are saying snow. It is now raining in the centre of Glasgow.

Scotland,Lanarkshire, Glasgow,Fife,Edinburgh the list goes on,they all up until about a wee bit ago where getting snow,Glasgow centre is getting rain? Be specific here,Glasgow is a very large city

Nqp15hhu

gerrybhoy wrote: »

Scotland,Lanarkshire, Glasgow,Fife,Edinburgh the list goes on,they all up until about a wee bit ago where getting snow,Glasgow centre is getting rain? Be specific here,Glasgow is a very large city

I don’t need to be specific. Don’t say it’s snowing all over the place when it’s mostly on the hills.

Nqp15hhu

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I don’t need to be specific. Don’t say it’s snowing all over the place when it’s mostly on the hills.

To be fair,it is marginal but is snowing in some large urban areas in southern central Scotland and Northern England
Here's a selection of webcams in Leeds Bradford, Sheffield amongst others

https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/bradford_united-kingdom_2654993

gerrybhoy

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I don’t need to be specific. Don’t say it’s snowing all over the place when it’s mostly on the hills.

See that's when your caught talking bollocks sir

Most of the folk showing these pictures arent living in any hilly regions, areas of Glasgow,Penilee, Hillington Cardonald, those 3 for example are anything but near hills

Lanarkshire, Fife etc again arent notorious hilly places,see, if your going to post something at least get the facts correct instead of reading it off netweather

daniel_t1409

Finally, some blue skies are appearing in wexford, probably won't last long though.

highdef

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I don’t need to be specific. Don’t say it’s snowing all over the place when it’s mostly on the hills.

Looking at Netweather radar, to me it looks like the vast majority of Scotland (and most of north England) is experiencing snow rather than rain. I just had a look at a webcam on George Square in the middle of Glasgow city and there's a slight covering in the grassy areas. As George Square is pretty much at sea level and in the middle of highly urban area, it would be reasonable to assume that the snow is not mainly on the hills.

Aberdeen and the rest of the east coast of Scotland is under the influence of an onshore breeze resulting in higher temperatures than most of Scotland and consequently is one of the few areas that is experiencing rain rather than snow.

pistolpetes11

MOD NOTE

I get there maybe some tension with the flip flop of the charts , and rite now we sit with the flop in hand , but please keep it civil and stop trying to pick arguments

Aberdeen and the rest of the east coast of Scotland is under the influence of an onshore breeze resulting in higher temperatures than most of Scotland and consequently is one of the few areas that is experiencing rain rather than snow.

A marine layer basically

sryanbruen

AuntySnow wrote: »

I'm not looking at models until Tuesday
If there's nothing by then more than normal short bursts of westerly Atlantic Hill slop in the outlook I'll be calling this a scamstrat as it will have had its 2 weeks plus and done nothing for Ireland anyway and won't want to hear anything about Stratospheric warming nonsense ever again

If you feel that way then fair enough. However, I will continue to post about the stratosphere ‘til the end of time or as long as I’m a weather enthusiast anyway as I find its variability and dynamic nature quite interesting irregardless of what happens at a tropospheric level. How it can vary from a very strong SPV to a very weak SPV in a matter of days via stratospheric warmings. It’s just all fascinating to me. It’s a continuously researched phenomena too so there’s always something new to learn and nothing is concrete. The stratosphere never “promised” anything, I think it’s people’s expectations getting the best of them (and I have done that before too *sigh*).

It’s unfortunate it is now used as another source that the media can “justify” their nonsense on that they pull out of their arse because of events like 2018. I do find that quite frustrating knowing that was the extreme end of tropospheric impacts and will highly unlikely see again anytime soon.

Gaoth Laidir

AuntySnow wrote: »

A marine layer basically

Or is it a warm sector?

Gaoth Laidir

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Or is it a warm sector?

Careful now

sryanbruen

sryanbruen wrote: »

If you feel that way then fair enough. However, I will continue to post about the stratosphere ‘til the end of time or as long as I’m a weather enthusiast anyway as I find its variability and dynamic nature quite interesting irregardless of what happens at a tropospheric level. How it can vary from a very strong SPV to a very weak SPV in a matter of days via stratospheric warmings. It’s just all fascinating to me. It’s a continuously researched phenomena too so there’s always something new to learn and nothing is concrete. The stratosphere never “promised” anything, I think it’s people’s expectations getting the best of them (and I have done that before too *sigh*).

It’s unfortunate it is now used as another source that the media can “justify” their nonsense on that they pull out of their arse because of events like 2018. I do find that quite frustrating knowing that was the extreme end of tropospheric impacts and will highly unlikely see again anytime soon.

To be brutally honest,I've as much interest in the North Pole strat as I do in the Mars strat if it doesn't affect our weather
But I do read your interesting summaries of what's going on up there vs delving in myself
I do so I think with enough understanding to judge if there's going to be any impact down here
I still expect there will be,but am not interested in another week of time wasting flip flopping output watching ,I want the 2 to 3 weeks post major strat warm to play out to its bitter conclusion at this stage as my confidence of a response that affects us is low
So please don't take my views as a disrespect for your strat watch
Its very helpful

Humberto Salazar

Better get the lawnmower serviced going by GFS model. Blowtorch southwesterlies all the way. Well, almost.

Reckless Abandonment

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

Better get the lawnmower serviced going by GFS model. Blowtorch southwesterlies all the way. Well, almost.

Ha. Just thinking the same. But I have to be honest people. I got a large delivery of wood for my stove on Tuesday. I may have jinxed things. Sorry

Thelonious Monk

Gorgeous in Dublin now, more of this please