Gyms to Reopen 2021???

obi604 · 08-01-2021 11:06AM

with these high figures, which in cases are 6/7/8 times higher than our previous peaks, not looking good.
I know we have the vaccine etc
but IMHO, after Easter is the best case scenario

jrosen · 08-01-2021 11:18AM

IMO it’s easily going to be easter before we all step food into a gym.

leanin2019 · 08-01-2021 12:05PM

obi604 wrote: »

with these high figures, which in cases are 6/7/8 times higher than our previous peaks, not looking good.
I know we have the vaccine etc
but IMHO, after Easter is the best case scenario

Look at the hospital figures for more accurate comparisons as we are testing alot more now than previous peak.

But yeah its not pretty.

rpurfield · 08-01-2021 12:09PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I don't know which is worse....being led along being told 2/3 more weeks repeatedly, or knowing it's straight up going to be 3 more months.

I'd rather know to be honest. I also think if they come out with a line that it's so serious we need to shut a lot of things for three months it might make people cop on.

is_that_so · 08-01-2021 12:14PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I don't know which is worse....being led along being told 2/3 more weeks repeatedly, or knowing it's straight up going to be 3 more months.

I think this time it is very much about the numbers and when they get a lot lower. We just can't guess at that and wait and see approach is the only way to deal with it. We do know that the government is keen to reverse restrictions as soon as it is feasible. Personally, I'm just working with sticking to a weekly routine at home as it's tangible.

el Fenomeno · 08-01-2021 12:17PM

Omega28 wrote: »

There's a lot of the block type ones going for crazy prices online but they can be bought for half the price from Alibaba etc

And if you order them now, you might have them in time for Covid-20 next year.

completedit · 08-01-2021 12:40PM

By the sounds of it, once we get the nursing homes vaccinated, a huge swathe of the population will stand a far higher chance of not dying from Covid. It will take people a while to get over the fear and for government to communicate that we can begin to "live with covid". They need to be strong because we don't seem to be accepting any Covid deaths.

Alf Veedersane · 08-01-2021 12:54PM

completedit wrote: »

By the sounds of it, once we get the nursing homes vaccinated, a huge swathe of the population will stand a far higher chance of not dying from Covid. It will take people a while to get over the fear and for government to communicate that we can begin to "live with covid". They need to be strong because we don't seem to be accepting any Covid deaths.

The problem isn't the deaths alone. It's the hospitalisations and ICU capacity. Almost half of all cases of hospitalisations are people less than 65. Vaccinations in nursing homes will prevent deaths but on it's own it won't mean a whole lot for risk to hospital capacity. Deaths, of course, but that's not really the primary driver of the restrictions.

Alf Veedersane · 08-01-2021 12:56PM

leanin2019 wrote: »

Look at the hospital figures for more accurate comparisons as we are testing alot more now than previous peak.

But yeah its not pretty.

Yeah the cases are really a proxy for the more pertinent numbers but the higher testing and higher positivity rate does indicate a higher prevalence than in March/April.

08-01-2021 01:14PM

completedit wrote: »

By the sounds of it, once we get the nursing homes vaccinated, a huge swathe of the population will stand a far higher chance of not dying from Covid. It will take people a while to get over the fear and for government to communicate that we can begin to "live with covid". They need to be strong because we don't seem to be accepting any Covid deaths.

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The problem isn't the deaths alone. It's the hospitalisations and ICU capacity. Almost half of all cases of hospitalisations are people less than 65. Vaccinations in nursing homes will prevent deaths but on it's own it won't mean a whole lot for risk to hospital capacity. Deaths, of course, but that's not really the primary driver of the restrictions.

The plan was and likely still is that the over 65s in longterm care, frontline workers in patient contact & the over 70s are the first groups to be vaccinated.

Of the "Almost half of all cases of hospitalisations are people less than 65" I would presume lots of these have underlying conditions......... such folk will likely be prioritised for a vaccine also over the rest of the population.

Up to the 12th Dec the following was the case......

Underlying medical conditions in individuals with confirmed COVID-19 by setting..... Community 23%, Acute Hospital 63%, ICU 88.6% , died 93.4%

Nothing about age group in the above but .......Underlying medical conditions in individuals with confirmed COVID-19 by age group, up to midnight 12/12/2020 ........ total show 25% had Underlying condition, 58% No underlying condition & 16% unknown.

Basically most folk who catch covid don't have an underlying condition but most folk in hospital with covid do have an underlying condition.

I doubt that has changed tbh.

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/underlyingconditionsreports/Underlying%20conditions%20summary_1.0v%2014122020.pdf

I can't see gyms open before March tbh. I've a pull up / dip station thing nearly 200 miles away that I'll use a few times over the coming months when I'm there on work related trips. Few dumb bells at home that I've little interest in using but can do dips and press ups etc at home..... I'll concentrate on cleaning up the diet some running I reckon. Try and get under 85kg for when the gyms open and then get back to 1.5 times BW bench press after a couple of months of gym time.

Alf Veedersane · 08-01-2021 01:46PM

Augeo wrote: »

The plan was and likely still is that the over 65s in longterm care, frontline workers in patient contact & the over 70s are the first groups to be vaccinated.

Of the "Almost half of all cases of hospitalisations are people less than 65" I would presume lots of these have underlying conditions......... such folk will likely be prioritised for a vaccine also over the rest of the population.

Up to the 12th Dec the following was the case......

Underlying medical conditions in individuals with confirmed COVID-19 by setting..... Community 23%, Acute Hospital 63%, ICU 88.6% , died 93.4%

Nothing about age group in the above but .......Underlying medical conditions in individuals with confirmed COVID-19 by age group, up to midnight 12/12/2020 ........ total show 25% had Underlying condition, 58% No underlying condition & 16% unknown.

Basically most folk who catch covid don't have an underlying condition but most folk in hospital with covid do have an underlying condition.

I doubt that has changed tbh.

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/underlyingconditionsreports/Underlying%20conditions%20summary_1.0v%2014122020.pdf

I can't see gyms open before March tbh. I've a pull up / dip station thing nearly 200 miles away that I'll use a few times over the coming months when I'm there on work related trips. Few dumb bells at home that I've little interest in using but can do dips and press ups etc at home..... I'll concentrate on cleaning up the diet some running I reckon. Try and get under 85kg for when the gyms open and then get back to 1.5 times BW bench press after a couple of months of gym time.

My point was that the vaccination of nursing home residents won't see much of a return to normality.

People with certain medical conditions are in priority group 7 of 15 and that doesn't necessarily cover all underlying conditions so the risk of large numbers of hospitalisations will persists for some months yet.

Given the speed of delivery of vaccines - we're on course to have 470k doses by the end of March - and the likely speed of vaccination, I'm just not filled with hope that normality will return once the vaccination of the nursing homes is complete, which is apparently the end of February.

I'd love to be proven wrong.

08-01-2021 01:50PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

My point was that the vaccination of nursing home residents won't see much of a return to normality............

I didn't disagree with your point, if anything I was agreeing with it, folk with underlying medical conditions need to be vaccinated as a priority "such folk will likely be prioritised for a vaccine also over the rest of the population"

By saying "I can't see gyms open before March tbh" I'm not suggesting with any coinfidence they'll open in March.

I do think once the over 70s & those with underlying medical conditions are vaccinated (the nursing homes will be done before them) we'll see a return to normality........ level 3 normality anyway with retail, gyms and barbers etc open.

Alf Veedersane · 08-01-2021 01:52PM

Augeo wrote: »

I didn't disagree with your point, if anything I was agreeing with it, folk with underlying medical conditions need to be vaccinated as a priority "such folk will likely be prioritised for a vaccine also over the rest of the population"

By saying "I can't see gyms open before March tbh" I'm not suggesting with any coinfidence they'll open in March.

Sorry...my brain is melted like a Twix on a range today.

Omega28 · 08-01-2021 07:58PM

Has anyone had any luck buying the adjustable dumbells? I was about to ordee from Alibaba but I have my reservations

Thelonious Monk · 08-01-2021 08:07PM

Omega28 wrote: »

Has anyone had any luck buying the adjustable dumbells? I was about to ordee from Alibaba but I have my reservations

That sounds like a joke

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 08-01-2021 08:07PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I don't know which is worse....being led along being told 2/3 more weeks repeatedly, or knowing it's straight up going to be 3 more months.

It's very annoying. I'm on the fence about buying more equipment. Like a decent rack and enough plates to be any use is gonna cost a grand or more while my membership is only €50 per month... If it was the end of January I'd hold out but April means I need to invest. Inflated prices now on the second hand market means there are no more bargains. Scum of the earth charging €180 for two argos style 20kg dumbbells is now the norm. Racks selling for more than they originally sold for too. It's so frustrating. Shoulda kept picking up bits and pieces after the last lockdown really.

Omega28 · 08-01-2021 08:09PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

That sounds like a joke

No joke 😛

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 08-01-2021 08:12PM

Adjustable weights are chronic.

Dtp1979 · 08-01-2021 08:16PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Adjustable weights are chronic.

Chronic?

Eoinbmw · 09-01-2021 11:06AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Adjustable weights are chronic.

A lot better than no weights!

Dtp1979 · 09-01-2021 11:12AM

Eoinbmw wrote: »

A lot better than no weights!

I have adjustable dumbbells up to 40kg. They are perfect once you don’t throw them on the ground and grunt after your 10kg chest press

Eoinbmw · 09-01-2021 11:20AM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I have adjustable dumbbells up to 40kg. They are perfect once you don’t throw them on the ground and grunt after your 10kg chest press

The are very handy and space saving ideal for home or shed!
They are fair wide which can make seated shoulder presses a bit awkward but you get used to them!

obi604 · 09-01-2021 11:52AM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I have adjustable dumbbells up to 40kg. They are perfect once you don’t throw them on the ground and grunt after your 10kg chest press

Are these roughly about 500 Euro - in today’s environment

Omega28 · 09-01-2021 11:54AM

Where did you lads buy them? Are they worth paying €5-600 for?

09-01-2021 12:13PM

For that money you might as well get a barbell and weights

Alf Veedersane · 09-01-2021 12:17PM

bluewolf wrote: »

For that money you might as well get a barbell and weights

But space tho.

09-01-2021 12:43PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

But space tho.

Yeah sorry just in shock at the price

caviardreams · 09-01-2021 01:04PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

But space tho.

Plus you can't bro-out as easily with the double-banded-lateral raises while standing on a shoebox doing a donkey kickback.

Eoinbmw · 09-01-2021 01:06PM

bluewolf wrote: »

For that money you might as well get a barbell and weights

Or both if possible!
Personally i like working with dumbbells!
Ideally id have a full set on a rack but space and cost of the equivalent dumbbells is 4-5 times as much!

Alf Veedersane · 09-01-2021 01:13PM

caviardreams wrote: »

Plus you can't bro-out as easily with the double-banded-lateral raises while standing on a shoebox doing a donkey kickback.

The sick pump I had yesterday suggests otherwise.

Gyms to Reopen 2021???

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