Schools closed until February? (part 3)

ShamoBuc · 07-01-2021 07:19PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

One class in a big school, why is it such a big problem .
Selfish teachers destroying the careers and life’s of this years leaving cert students .

But wouldn't they have already done this by going online last year though :rolleyes:

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 07-01-2021 07:19PM

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Listening to rte radio now. Tone from the room where the ongoing meetings are happening with govt and CMO is that this won't work if they push it through - nobody is on board, teachers, principals, parents, students.

Fair play to all groups concerned.

Rushing such a move was wreckless.

Minister should go

downthemiddle · 07-01-2021 07:20PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

One class in a big school, why is it such a big problem .
Selfish teachers destroying the careers and life’s of this years leaving cert students .

Are you blaming any particular teacher for your life or are they all equally responsible?

History Queen · 07-01-2021 07:21PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

One class in a big school, why is it such a big problem .
Selfish teachers destroying the careers and life’s of this years leaving cert students .

Hyperbole much?

07-01-2021 07:21PM

Stateofyou wrote: »

Can I sidebar for a minute here:
What does one pay for private schooling?

in our case it is costing €8000 per year.

Its a lot, but I understand a lot of people are paying more than that for childcare.

Purple Mountain · 07-01-2021 07:21PM

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Our school seems to be the best although it might be etb wide. You aren’t going to be allowed stay in the school to teach the rest of your classes online. Because you know, it’s not safe.....

So you come in teach your 6th years, then turn around, maybe an hour's drive and fire up the laptop?

Leftwaffe · 07-01-2021 07:21PM

Norma Foley surely has to go?

wirelessdude01 · 07-01-2021 07:22PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

One class in a big school, why is it such a big problem .
Selfish teachers destroying the careers and life’s of this years leaving cert students .

One of the local schools here has nearly 250 students in 6th year. One class ehh?

Stateofyou · 07-01-2021 07:22PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

ASTI just directed it's members not to engage or cooperate with the plan. They are to go online/remote.

Great news!!! Finally something positive.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 07-01-2021 07:23PM

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Norma Foley surely has to go?

100%

penny piper · 07-01-2021 07:23PM

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Norma Foley surely has to go?

Most definitely....

Mrsmum · 07-01-2021 07:23PM

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

They absolutely have to carry out the traditional LC now or else all this sh1te is pointless. It will be a huge embarrassment for the government if it doesn’t. They have went all in on this.

Realistically, it ain’t gonna happen. And there will be war when it’s called off.

Surely what the Government hung their hat on was schools open and normal LC. If it's now back to remote, I think that would make it easier for them to say right predictive grades so. I remember doing first lockdown, some TV news programme showed people sitting in their cars in the village church carpark working away on their laptops. That was the only place these people could get effective broadband. How could the kids in that village possibly do remote learning and do a leaving cert based on remote learning..

Juwwi · 07-01-2021 07:24PM

Edit l didn't read the OP in thread ignore .

Responder XY · 07-01-2021 07:24PM

Find the attitude of ASTI and teachers disgraceful. I'm disgusted but unfortunately not surprised.

Teachers and childcare professionals are absolutely essential workers and it's essential our young people get an education. Schools should have stayed open at almost any cost - we know that the risk to young people is minimal so closing schools to prevent spread is complete greed on behalf of older people who will sacrifice the future of our young people.

Stateofyou · 07-01-2021 07:24PM

Aegir wrote: »

in our case it is costing €8000 per year.

Its a lot, but I understand a lot of people are paying more than that for childcare.

Last question, promise :pac: Is that primary? And what's the books situation?

Yeah, I've paid more than that in childcare myself.

tayto lover · 07-01-2021 07:25PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

One class in a big school, why is it such a big problem .
Selfish teachers destroying the careers and life’s of this years leaving cert students .

So people are being told every day to stay at home and only meet with members of one other family or bubble. Then teachers are expected to go into a classroom and mix with students from at least thirty other families or bubbles in a cramped area.
Madness. It makes absolutely no sense and is extremely dangerous.

Stateofyou · 07-01-2021 07:26PM

Responder XY wrote: »

Find the attitude of ASTI and teachers disgraceful. I'm disgusted but unfortunately not surprised.

Teachers and childcare professionals are absolutely essential workers and it's essential our young people get an education. Schools should have stayed open at almost any cost - we know that the risk to young people is minimal so closing schools to prevent spread is complete greed on behalf of older people who will sacrifice the future of our young people.

B.S.
Who's "we" and what do we know?

is_that_so · 07-01-2021 07:27PM

penny piper wrote: »

Most definitely....

To be replaced by who? It's a FF seat at Cabinet.

downthemiddle · 07-01-2021 07:27PM

Responder XY wrote: »

Find the attitude of ASTI and teachers disgraceful. I'm disgusted but unfortunately not surprised.

Teachers and childcare professionals are absolutely essential workers and it's essential our young people get an education. Schools should have stayed open at almost any cost - we know that the risk to young people is minimal so closing schools to prevent spread is complete greed on behalf of older people who will sacrifice the future of our young people.

Yeah, let's sacrifice some teachers, SNAs, parents and grandparents instead.

07-01-2021 07:27PM

Juwwi wrote: »

The Government should let them have a vote on it , return or go on the PUP like everyone else .

Who is teaching other kids online then?

Necro · 07-01-2021 07:28PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

One class in a big school, why is it such a big problem .
Selfish teachers destroying the careers and life’s of this years leaving cert students .

LuasSimon wrote: »

Plenty of students want to be in school preparing for their leaving cert but lazy teachers will do every thing to get out of going to work

Mod:

All you are doing is winding people up. Stop this rhetoric or you will be threadbanned. Final warning

downthemiddle · 07-01-2021 07:28PM

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Norma Foley surely has to go?

They have to find her first.

FileNotFound · 07-01-2021 07:28PM

Mrsmum wrote: »

Surely what the Government hung their hat on was schools open and normal LC. If it's now back to remote, I think that would make it easier for them to say right predictive grades so. I remember doing first lockdown, some TV news programme showed people sitting in their cars in the village church carpark working away on their laptops. That was the only place these people could get effective broadband. How could the kids in that village possibly do remote learning and do a leaving cert based on remote learning..

They really want the LC to happen and i imagine what they are not saying is that schools could well be closed for a lot longer than the current plan.

I suppose the idea of keeping LC's in and a vaccination program in place before may means the LC can happen.

Remote learning is just too haphazard at the moment for an exam year - guess its a case of society moving forward vs. health advice (Been the battle all along really)

07-01-2021 07:29PM

Stateofyou wrote: »

Last question, promise :pac: Is that primary? And what's the books situation?

Yeah, I've paid more than that in childcare myself.

Secondary, but we still have to pay for books (which pisses me off no end)

Danick · 07-01-2021 07:30PM

Responder XY wrote: »

Find the attitude of ASTI and teachers disgraceful. I'm disgusted but unfortunately not surprised.

Teachers and childcare professionals are absolutely essential workers and it's essential our young people get an education. Schools should have stayed open at almost any cost - we know that the risk to young people is minimal so closing schools to prevent spread is complete greed on behalf of older people who will sacrifice the future of our young people.

Read the facts - your grasp of the new covid strain is limited to say the least!

Stateofyou · 07-01-2021 07:30PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

They have to find her first.

Ah thanks for the laugh, ha ha. :pac:

mirrorwall14 · 07-01-2021 07:30PM

Purple Mountain wrote: »

So you come in teach your 6th years, then turn around, maybe an hour's drive and fire up the laptop?

Apparently so. I’m very high risk so working from home so doesn’t affect me. Tbh though maybe they were just saying that knowing there would probably be a change and they couldn’t face doing up a new timetable and then cancelling it?

Danick · 07-01-2021 07:31PM

Aegir wrote: »

Secondary, but we still have to pay for books (which pisses me off no end)

Maybe you should read them to develop your vocabulary - then they won't be such a waste of your money.

Responder XY · 07-01-2021 07:31PM

Stateofyou wrote: »

B.S.
Who's "we" and what do we know?

"we" is anybody who's done any type of reading on the topic!

For example you could start here https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/facts/questions-answers-school-transmission

JeffKenna · 07-01-2021 07:32PM

I for one would support the teachers on this if they refused to attend schools.

Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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