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UK Air travel suspended for 48 hours from midnight *Mod Warning in OP Please Read*

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    #632
    Penfailed
    Registered Users Posts: 7,505 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    GarIT wrote: »
    I was talking to someone in London who said on some heavily infected streets the military are preventing people leaving their homes. Don't know how true that is.

    It's not true.

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    #633
    BloodyBill
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    Family from tier 2 in England flew in on Sunday last with Ryanair...but Ryanair aren't flying back into the UK now. Seriously odd because other airlines are. So to get to the airport they need to its easier to fly from Belfast with Easyjet . Ryanairs cancellation/ refund stuff is alot easier than it was but thats cold comfort.


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    #634
    The Continental Op
    Registered Users Posts: 6,402 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Oh dear, I upset the poor guy that phoned me wanting to confirm my details on the COVID-19 Passenger Locator Form :o

    I feel bad about it now but the monotone voice just set me on edge as he read out his script and then asked me for my address.

    Don't know why I did it but I asked him to prove who he was but he couldn't and read the script telling me it was a legal requirement. The best he could do for identification was to give me an HSE number to call that isn't manned at the weekend.

    I've got to organise a Covid test as requested by the DFA on Monday so I'll call the HSE number he gave me.

    Edit> Called back the number they call from (01 2308717) and confirmed my address only to discover that their details showed that my flight was cancelled :confused:.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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    #635
    [Deleted User]
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    Anyone heard any word on when UK / Ireland travel will resume. Airlines are taking bookings from 1 Jan, but woundnt be surprised is it’s extended


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    #636
    PommieBast
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Anyone heard any word on when UK / Ireland travel will resume. Airlines are taking bookings from 1 Jan, but woundnt be surprised is it’s extended
    Noises are of the outright ban being lifted in the newyear but looks like we will not be told of the new arrangments until basically a day or so beforehand.


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    #637
    [Deleted User]
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    PommieBast wrote: »
    Noises are of the outright ban being lifted in the newyear but looks like we will not be told of the new arrangments until basically a day or so beforehand.

    Proof of a negative test perhaps. Or testing upon arrival


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    #638
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Anyone heard any word on when UK / Ireland travel will resume. Airlines are taking bookings from 1 Jan, but woundnt be surprised is it’s extended


    My money would be on first light Monday 4th, this will be after work traditional holidays so movements would be minimalised.


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    #639
    BloodyBill
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    My money would be on first light Monday 4th, this will be after work traditional holidays so movements would be minimalised.

    My family members had to fly back via Belfast and Easyjet..4hr30 min drive to the airport but we are all glad Northern Ireland didn't stop flights from Great Britain


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    #640
    herbieflowers
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    Anyone know if Aer Lingus and Ryanair are flying into the UK from Dublin? Or is the ban for all flights in and out of the UK?


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    #641
    cmac2009
    Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    Did they extend it by a week as was speculated?


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    #642
    PommieBast
    Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    cmac2009 wrote: »
    Did they extend it by a week as was speculated?
    Yep, it has. Dunno what good it is supposed to do though as that direction is very quiet this time of year..


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    #643
    [Deleted User]
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    cmac2009 wrote: »
    Did they extend it by a week as was speculated?


    I was late to the speech, so i missed any mention of it too. I can't find info online, so im assuming it's not been extended?

    EDIT: Ignore me, Thanks PommieBast.


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    #644
    herbieflowers
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    Can anyone explain how there is a travel ban yet there seem - according to the Dublin airport website - to be flights coming in and out of the UK?


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    #645
    cmac2009
    Registered Users Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    herbieflowers wrote: »
    Can anyone explain how there is a travel ban yet there seem - according to the Dublin airport website - to be flights coming in and out of the UK?

    There is no ban on flights from Ireland to the UK, afaik. Airlines seem to taking decisions -presumably based on profitability- on whether to cancel flights or not. Aer Lingus seem to be running far more than Ryanair.

    For flights from UK to Ireland, there seems to be some "rescue" flights for Irish citizens that are stranded in the UK. Could possibly explain the inbound flights.


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    #646
    Comer1
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    Can UK residents, moving back to Ireland to live here permanently, in a newly purchased house, travel back by ferry before the 6th of January?


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    #647
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    Comer1 wrote: »
    Can UK residents, moving back to Ireland to live here permanently, in a newly purchased house, travel back by ferry before the 6th of January?

    Yes. There is no hard and fast rule - generally proof of residency in Ireland is needed, but its within the power of the DFA to approve the trip. They'd agree to that for sure and the number is on their website


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    #648
    deegs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭deegs


    So recently learned someone, who was in the UK (london for 2 weeks) at Xmas got a ferry back to belfast before the new year and drove home to ireland immediately from Belfast.

    I believe it is a legal, and ethical, requirement to complete the passenger locator form and they believe it is not as there is no requirement coming from the north?

    Is this true???


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    #649
    The Continental Op
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    deegs wrote: »
    So recently learned someone, who was in the UK (london for 2 weeks) at Xmas got a ferry back to belfast before the new year and drove home to ireland immediately from Belfast.

    I believe it is a legal, and ethical, requirement to complete the passenger locator form and they believe it is not as there is no requirement coming from the north?

    Is this true???

    Its true unfortunately
    By law, passengers arriving to Ireland from overseas are required to complete this form, with the exception of the following:

    passengers arriving from Northern Ireland

    .....
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ab900-covid-19-passenger-locator-form/

    Morally I would suggest they need to isolate for 14 days but nothing forcing them or even suggesting they should.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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    #650
    deegs
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    Disgusted.
    I do wonder whats the point of putting a year of sacrifices and hardship under my belt for :(


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    #651
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    deegs wrote: »
    So recently learned someone, who was in the UK (london for 2 weeks) at Xmas got a ferry back to belfast before the new year and drove home to ireland immediately from Belfast.

    I believe it is a legal, and ethical, requirement to complete the passenger locator form and they believe it is not as there is no requirement coming from the north?

    Is this true???
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2020/si/181/made/en/print

    the wording seems to permit travelling from Northern Ireland.
    All this person appears to have evaded was the obligation to fill out the locator form truthfully.


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    #652
    PommieBast
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    Looks like people on flights from the UK will now need PCR tests, although to me it sounds very much like door+horse+bolted. I also wonder what sort of markup people will need to pay for the certificate..


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    #653
    theguzman
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    PommieBast wrote: »
    Looks like people on flights from the UK will now need PCR tests, although to me it sounds very much like door+horse+bolted. I also wonder what sort of markup people will need to pay for the certificate..

    A test here in Ireland runs from €99 up, just replace €'s with £'s and its much the same. This will cause more people to divert via Belfast and NI into the Republic.


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    #654
    PommieBast
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    theguzman wrote: »
    A test here in Ireland runs from €99 up, just replace €'s with £'s and its much the same. This will cause more people to divert via Belfast and NI into the Republic.
    I'm just about prepared to fork out for a negative test, but they can forget about me actually sticking to the 14-day isolation.


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    #655
    WoollyRedHat
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    Proves why we need mandatory isolation facilities tbh.


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    #656
    punisher5112
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    Hotels should be used at the entering guests cost to isolate for the 14 days.

    This sh1tty lockdown will not work.


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    #657
    AutoTuning
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    We’ve plenty of hotels and no prospect of tourism or business travel in the medium term. The space to handle a volume of compulsory quarantines exist.


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    #658
    PommieBast
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    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Proves why we need mandatory isolation facilities tbh.
    Quite. My remark is about the frustration of myself having actually done the isolation twice already, and the whole point of requiring a test is because the system was a failure.


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    #659
    Puguchung
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    PommieBast wrote: »
    Looks like people on flights from the UK will now need PCR tests, although to me it sounds very much like door+horse+bolted. I also wonder what sort of markup people will need to pay for the certificate..

    £175 for Fit to Fly test and certificate, in London.


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    #660
    Lillyfae
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    PommieBast wrote: »
    Quite. My remark is about the frustration of myself having actually done the isolation twice already, and the whole point of requiring a test is because the system was a failure.

    The whole point of having a test is to create an extra layer of difficulty/ expense for those wanting to travel. You could just stop flying over and back. Taking a PCR test doesn't mean you're immune to the virus.


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    #661
    punisher5112
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    Lillyfae wrote: »
    The whole point of having a test is to create an extra layer of difficulty/ expense for those wanting to travel. You could just stop flying over and back. Taking a PCR test doesn't mean you're immune to the virus.

    Especially when they're testing it outside the perimeter of accuracy.

    Cycle ran up to 42 or 45 and it should not be past 35 cycles.

    The man that created it never intended it for this use as not only are they using it wrong but it will show up the common cold as a positive, as it's a relation to the covid 19 strain.


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