Schools closed until February? (part 3)

Tenzor07 · 06-01-2021 06:50PM

combat14 wrote: »

we could need a separate thread or poll for norma needs to go yet

Nah, what's the point....the entire cabinet are useless! From "15th count" Donnelly, to "Justice Woulfe" McEntee, Simon "Covid18" Harris...and Leo "the leak"......

Covit · 06-01-2021 06:51PM

Aegir wrote: »

Then why only three days per week?

Read there first line
Damd If u do. Damd if u don’t !

Endintheclowns · 06-01-2021 06:51PM

scouserstation wrote: »

I think no matter what decision was made today it was a case of being damned if you do and damned if you don't, personally I think a happy medium has been reached, the option is there for the LC to go ahead and special needs kids can go back to school aswell, as long as this can proceed in a safe enough environment then I don't see a problem

How is it a safe environment. Genuine question

micks_address · 06-01-2021 06:53PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

How is it a safe environment. Genuine question

I don’t think enough is known about this variant. Who says 2 metres is a safe distance for it?

Loafing Oaf · 06-01-2021 06:55PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

How is it a safe environment. Genuine question

Or, more specifically, how is this arrangement much safer for the 6th years and their teachers than if the whole school was going back?

Leftwaffe · 06-01-2021 06:57PM

Endintheclowns wrote: »

How is it a safe environment. Genuine question

It’s very clear a new risk assessment needs to be carried out for schools. We are now in a totally different context to the reopening in September.

Icyseanfitz · 06-01-2021 06:57PM

7k cases today and we are all back next week, its ****ing madness

06-01-2021 07:08PM

Foley about to come on Newstalk

Get your texts in. 53016
Be heard.

km79 · 06-01-2021 07:09PM

http://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1346876856377749504

Reading comments online I think public support would actually be there for unions to pull plant on this
Parents don’t want the risk

Sawduck · 06-01-2021 07:09PM

Lots of young kids and teens around today, is there any point closing the schools if parents are just going to let their kids mix with groups of up to ten and not even wearing face masks?

2Mad2BeMad · 06-01-2021 07:10PM

Thread title should be changed to " Schools closed until February, Sort of "

Ciano35 · 06-01-2021 07:13PM

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

Thread title should be changed to " Schools closed until February, Sort of "

I don't get why all the news headlines are saying schools are closed. They're not closed, they're open. Government are a disgrace in how they're handling this, 7,836 cases today and close contacts not being tested.

Leftwaffe · 06-01-2021 07:13PM

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

Thread title should be changed to " Schools closed until February, Sort of "

Yeah this is the thing. All major news outlets leading with schools closed. Post primary schools across the country will be open from Monday.

The HorsesMouth · 06-01-2021 07:13PM

Norma Foley on Drivetime there. It was put to her would she herself go in and teach 25 or 30 17, 18 and 19 year olds in one room during the height of a pandemic. And yet still kept saying the evidence is schools are safe. How on earth can anyone say this with a straight face??
She also mentioned that last data from schools was presented by Philip Nolan on Dec 22nd, when cases were at 600/700 cases. So basically before any of this went out of control. There is no way any mathematician/scientist or politician can say schools would be safe with that amount of virus around to spread.

...Ghost... · 06-01-2021 07:14PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Of course Norma's not going to be popular

She's making teachers have to work

Some like special needs teachers when others will be at home

You might want to put just a little thought into what you want to say before blubbering out nonsense like that.

Let's consider what we are being told for a second. Teachers are being asked to come into class to teach LC students 3 days per week. They are also supposed to somehow work around whatever timetable to have online lessons with the other 5 years. So, the whole timetable get's changed for LC students for a period of time and teachers are supposed to juggle all the other classes online. Many schools have garbage broadband access and teachers are not allowed use their personal laptops/pads for school because of GDPR. Ignore the fact that an enormous amount of teachers will have no childcare to care for their own kids who are supposed to at home for online schooling lessons.

Now, please try tell me that "making teachers have to work" in this context is a good idea. Norma is an absolute moron and either doesn't have a clue, or more likely is just a puppet who will pay come election time, if not before.

C__MC · 06-01-2021 07:20PM

Are teachers permitted to conduct online learning in schools for other years?

E36Ross · 06-01-2021 07:22PM

I wonder would Norma come on the bus (special needs) with me Monday morning?

Limited social distancing, Very limited ventilation and no masks.

Genuinely concerned about the chances of getting it!

appledrop · 06-01-2021 07:22PM

And it gets better.

Rte reports that new proposal is that Dail will only meet once a week in January + only in massive Convention Centre with 45 max so about 50 m between each other.

Meanwhile LC will be in 3 times a week with 24 plus teacher in tiny classroom.

This is not over yet, not by a long shot.

Endintheclowns · 06-01-2021 07:24PM

Foley has lost the plot.

The virus is 10 times more rampant now than when they closed. I actually think she's trolling now.

SpacialNeeds · 06-01-2021 07:25PM

Unions are saying that they didn't meet with Foley.

They're not going to be left holding the bag here, there's no option but to actually take the industrial action that they said they were going to take last term.

Endintheclowns · 06-01-2021 07:26PM

E36Ross wrote: »

I wonder would Norma come on the bus (special needs) with me Monday morning?

Limited social distancing, Very limited ventilation and no masks.

Genuinely concerned about the chances of getting it!

Surely buses can't be running? Parents will have to bring kids in themselves now.

06-01-2021 07:26PM

I don't understand why LC students are going back. It's only January. If it was March /April fair enough. Use Zoom etc, for the next month.

06-01-2021 07:27PM

I don't understand why LC students are going back. It's only January. If it was March /April fair enough. Use Zoom etc, for the next month.

wirelessdude01 · 06-01-2021 07:27PM

Seeing multiple notices and messages from principals of schools with special classes attached, that they won't be opening next week and will take the week to decide what happens going forward.

Be interesting to see how the DES responds to this instant revolt.

harr · 06-01-2021 07:27PM

E36Ross wrote: »

I wonder would Norma come on the bus (special needs) with me Monday morning?

Limited social distancing, Very limited ventilation and no masks.

Genuinely concerned about the chances of getting it!

My son gets a bus to school and if and that’s a big if I do send him in at all on Monday it will be me driving him in.
3 different special needs schools are on the one bus .. madness

thomas 123 · 06-01-2021 07:27PM

...Ghost... wrote: »

You might want to put just a little thought into what you want to say before blubbering out nonsense like that.

Let's consider what we are being told for a second. Teachers are being asked to come into class to teach LC students 3 days per week. They are also supposed to somehow work around whatever timetable to have online lessons with the other 5 years. So, the whole timetable get's changed for LC students for a period of time and teachers are supposed to juggle all the other classes online. Many schools have garbage broadband access and teachers are not allowed use their personal laptops/pads for school because of GDPR. Ignore the fact that an enormous amount of teachers will have no childcare to care for their own kids who are supposed to at home for online schooling lessons.

Now, please try tell me that "making teachers have to work" in this context is a good idea. Norma is an absolute moron and either doesn't have a clue, or more likely is just a puppet who will pay come election time, if not before.

If anything it probably causes more chaos like you have said.

What’s stopping teachers having a zoom room and all secondary students sticking to their regular timetables? Now they(teachers) are expected to what, drive in for a class and go home to jump online...

Have a list of teachers rooms and off they go. The lack of planning and presence from Norma and Co is nothing short of a disgrace.

Leftwaffe · 06-01-2021 07:30PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

If anything it probably causes more chaos like you have said.

What’s stopping teachers having a zoom room and all secondary students sticking to their regular timetables? Now they(teachers) are expected to what, drive in for a class and go home to jump online...

Have a list of teachers rooms and off they go. The lack of planning and presence from Norma and Co is nothing short of a disgrace.

Yeah it actually creates a lot of issues in regards to the provision of remote classes for other year groups. I believe a full online timetable this time would have worked far better than in March.

Online learning is crap but a halfway house job makes everything infinitely worse.

dirkmeister · 06-01-2021 07:30PM

Kieran Cuddihy asked how are teachers going to plan teaching multi years in secondary.

Her answer...”sure, that’s quite easy”

thomas 123 · 06-01-2021 07:33PM

dirkmeister wrote: »

Kieran Cuddihy asked how are teachers going to plan teaching multi years in secondary.

Her answer...”sure, that’s quite easy”

Almost as easy as making a plan where a school closure situation to occur again... oh wait...

downthemiddle · 06-01-2021 07:34PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

If schools and teachers were any good or genuinely interested in their students , they would have a perfectly functioning online portal operating . A lot of teachers are just bone lazy .

There's a business opportunity for you Simon. Can you have a portal operational by Monday please?

Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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