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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #8342
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    It's really about time they started bringing in the roads. In the meantime I'm going to slash tyres on my road, unless person is essential worker.

    Why not? NPHET done it to Chris Rea, allegedly


  • #8343
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Hubertj wrote: »
    Question for you all - NOHET modelling at end of November was way way off what is happening now. How did they get it so wrong?
    Government made decisions based on this modelling and other data provided by different sources.
    Is it fair to say they wouldn’t have opened the economy to this extent of the modelling NPHET provided was more accurate?
    I’m trying to work this out in my head as everything seems way off! Thanks

    Because there using Professor Nolan's graphs and modeling and modeling projections.
    Rather than the European centre of disease prevention and contro.
    They could be using a mixture of both now not sure


  • #8344
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Ficheall wrote: »
    The number of cases reported today will have been uncomfortably close to the number of cases we've had today. I presume that's what your wondering, as opposed to trying to use the slow processing of numbers through the system to suggest we're not in the sh*t.

    The first part of your post.
    I'm truly lost. Don't understand where the numbers are coming from these days.


  • #8345
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    ‘I can work from home feck the rest of ye’ is certainly the impression I get. Btw I have to be on site everyday although happy to have the separation of home and work.


    It is extremely frustrating when you could easily work from home but the government caves and makes you work face to face

    And I don't believe a lot of retailers that say it's impossible to arrange click and collect over a 10 month period, that e-commerce is just too complicated and they can't do it. i don't know what is up with them


  • #8346
    Hubertj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Hubertj


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    Didn't NPHET say that if they opened restaurants for 3 weeks then the hospitals would be overrun in January? Did I dream that?

    Did they? I thought they said in recent days cases are way off charts compared to their forecasts...


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  • #8347
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,508 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    tom1ie wrote: »
    What about tanning saloons, bookies? They essential?

    Got on a lucky one, came in 18/1.
    I've got a feeling this year's for me and you.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #8348
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    The huge number of cases have a lot of posters very rattled tonight, but has also brought out a few of the loonies that were all over this thread last spring.We are back to March once more with disinfecting groceries,scared of Chinese fast food,wiping down petrol pumps,crossing the road to avoid walkers etc.
    The amount of MSG,salt and sugar will probably kill you faster than your outside chance of catching Covid from the takeaways.

    plenty of the other flavour out also.

    "People die anyway, if it wasn't covid it'd be flu"

    Except now a lot of care is being cancelled because we don't have capacity.

    That'll lead to more people dying unnecessarily. Blowout of month not really worth it IMHO.


  • #8349
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Hubertj wrote: »
    Did they? I thought they said in recent days cases are way off charts compared to their forecasts...

    Yeah as i understand it they predicted that hospitals would be overrun but they didn't think they'd be this overrun this quickly

    but I am open to being told i am misremembering


  • #8350
    Scuid Mhór
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    About 11,000.

    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    Exponential growth will prove herself to be a cruel mistress in a couple of weeks.


  • #8351
    beaz2018
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭beaz2018


    So if all it took was a few weeks of people (mostly very modestly) letting their guard down, for us to have nearly 10k cases a day, how many would we have had each day last feb/march if we could test back then?


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  • #8352
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Gael23 wrote: »
    The unions won’t have that. Primary teachers working and secondary Ines nit

    They get paid either way, and they work either way.

    I don't understand why 16-18 year olds were ever made to go back to schoool since they can learn online easier than the other age groups and since they can spread covid as easily as an adult can, unlike kids


  • #8353
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    beaz2018 wrote: »
    So if all it took was a few weeks of people (mostly very modestly) letting their guard down, for us to have nearly 10k cases a day, how many would we have had each day last feb/march if we could test back then?

    Leaving out the biggest migration of the year, aka Christmas.


  • #8354
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Called this two weeks ago: Schools to close

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/ministers-no-longer-expect-schools-to-fully-reopen-on-january-11-39930326.html


  • #8355
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    The huge number of cases have a lot of posters very rattled tonight, but has also brought out a few of the loonies that were all over this thread last spring.We are back to March once more with disinfecting groceries,scared of Chinese fast food,wiping down petrol pumps,crossing the road to avoid walkers etc.
    The amount of MSG,salt and sugar will probably kill you faster than your outside chance of catching Covid from the takeaways.

    Well if one is scared of chinese takeaways, chances are one wont die of msg


  • #8356
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭prunudo


    tom1ie wrote: »
    What about tanning saloons, bookies? They essential?

    In my opinion no, but its not up to me to decide. I'm not saying there isn't merit in closing some sectors but its not a black and white case in imo. There is a cohort on here and who text into media outlets who constantly shout 'shut this, shut the other, curfew etc because they're aren't effected by said closures.


  • #8357
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    plenty of the other flavour out also.

    "People die anyway, if it wasn't covid it'd be flu"

    Except now a lot of care is being cancelled because we don't have capacity.

    That'll lead to more people dying unnecessarily. Blowout of month not really worth it IMHO.
    No sign what so ever of "people die anyway" or it's only flu crowd around tonight.
    but overflowing with posters absolutely losing it.


  • #8358
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    There has been no data on schools for two weeks, so it is hard to say.

    He was saying that they don't have the data GENERALLY to make any judgements about how safe our schools are.

    The same gowl who wheeled out charts to show us how safe they were before the Hallowe'en break. The break after which everything went to shit and there had to be unilateral action by schools to contain outbreaks, close contacts weren't being contacted by the HSE in spite of them telling principals that due to GDPR they couldn't disclose cases, schools had to get their BOM to decide on a full closure because there were so many covid cases and it was nigh on impossible to get a test, even as a close contact of a confirmed case.

    There have been lies upon lies in order to make the data reflect the safety of schools. It's malicious and dangerous when the case numbers are low but it's complete negligence and tantamount to actual murder when they're refusing to collect or examine the data in order to scientifically study the spread in schools, at this point. Nolan is an absolute cretin and he has been blowing the government's trumpet whenever needed. He'll be remembered as the Iago of this whole period in Ireland when the numbers are available to the experts.


  • #8359
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,129 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    prunudo wrote: »
    In my opinion no, but its not up to me to decide. I'm not saying there isn't merit in closing some sectors but its not a black and white case in imo. There is a cohort on here and who text into media outlets who constantly shout 'shut this, shut the other, curfew etc because they're aren't effected by said closures.

    Problem is you will get people who may be struggling on with a head cold (which is in fact covid) who goes in to one of the above premises and contributes to the spread.
    Bookies and tanning salons are in no way essential.


  • #8360
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    No sign what so ever of "people die anyway" or it's only flu crowd around tonight.
    but overflowing with posters absolutely losing it.

    No way, really? Can you point some of them ?


  • #8361
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    So when do we get the numbers for :

    Vaccines Doses Available -

    1st Vaccine Doses Administered -

    2nd Vaccine Doses Administered -

    —————————————————

    Total Vaccines Doses -


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  • #8362
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Now NPHETs credibility is in question

    Their brief is to keep schools open and keep non Covid healthcare operational, both have failed


  • #8363
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The advice from NEFET is that schools are safe.


  • #8364
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Now NPHETs credibility is in question

    Their brief is to keep schools open and keep non Covid healthcare operational, both have failed

    If the government had followed the advice to begin with wed be fine

    All they can do is advise! They aren’t magic


  • #8365
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    The advice from NEFET is that schools are safe.

    It very clearly isn’t after tonight.


  • #8366
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    No way, really? Can you point some of them ?


    Read back around six pages, yes way.


  • #8367
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    So when do we get the numbers for :

    Vaccines Doses Available -

    1st Vaccine Doses Administered -

    2nd Vaccine Doses Administered -

    —————————————————

    Total Vaccines Doses -

    Not sure will be get the first as ongoing figure as changes so much with new supply. Probably get number of vaccine does distributed alright.

    1st doses have only been administered recently so would be at least 3 weeks from 1st dose for that so won't happen for a few weeks.


  • #8368
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Did they say how many vaccines have been carried out ?


  • #8369
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Now NPHETs credibility is in question

    Their brief is to keep schools open and keep non Covid healthcare operational, both have failed

    well they did say that christmas should be either opening restaurants/gastropubs OR home visits. Not both. If their advice had been followed then presumably things wouldn't be looking so bleak now.


  • #8370
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Now NPHETs credibility is in question

    Their brief is to keep schools open and keep non Covid healthcare operational, both have failed

    Maybe they thought people will follow guidelines.. workplaces will follow guidelines..


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  • #8371
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    So when do we get the numbers for :

    Vaccines Doses Available -

    1st Vaccine Doses Administered -

    2nd Vaccine Doses Administered -

    —————————————————

    Total Vaccines Doses -

    That's a question for cider. Don't expect an answer soon.

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