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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #8312
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I don't think much of Karina Butlers bedside manner


  • #8313
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    Nolan basically just saying "we can't make any determinations about if schools are safe because we don't have the data"

    JFC WHAT IS THE POINT OF HIM I actually hate him like. He can pull the data out of his f'n ass any time he wants to say they're safe but then he just denies everything when OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE UNSAFE right now.

    Genuine question, did anyone from gov't or NPHET ever officially say the schools were safe? I know Boris came out and said it and then back pedalled, but did anyone over here claim it? AFAIK, they only said they weren't a major driver of infection.


  • #8314
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I'm lost at this stage. Does anyone know what the backlog is?
    It is what it is! :) You'd imagine that most of it has been reported by now.


  • #8315
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    Nolan has been an awful president of Maynooth in my opinion. On paper he looks pretty good with increasing student numbers etc, but I can say that the quality standards of some degrees has really dropped (first hand experience as an undergrad and postgrad) and he has this master vision of trying to consolidate everything into two degrees: “Arts” and “Science”.

    All this to say, I don’t think he’s good at modelling the data.


  • #8316
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    What we need now is a stricter lockdown and for people to actually all get on board with it to flatten the curve. If we can do that then the reward is that we can open up again in March so we can all have a meaningful Cheltenham icon14.png

    Yeah but after a meaningful Cheltenham we’d have to impose restrictions again for Easter egg day.


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  • #8317
    cannotlogin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    The current situation is pretty bleak and disheartening, especially for those who minimised their close contacts and didn't mix much before and over Christmas.

    Today is probably the first real return to normal day, with a lot of people back to work, remotely or otherwise. I know a lot of people can't return to work but regardless of people's situation,everyone is likely to be mixing less from now on and the amount of people travelling into Ireland should reduce which means that in about 3 weeks, the figures should start falling again IF people cop on from here on in.

    Everyone needs to just remain calm and do everything within their personal ability to follow the rules:- minimise contacts, wear a mask, maintain distance, no unnecessary travel, online or infrequent shopping, avoid crowded areas etc. I'm assuming the current position is enough to convince most sane people that we need to take it seriously now and do everything we can to pull it back.


  • #8318
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    He sat up there a few months ago going on at length about how schools are safe and now he's admitting they don't have the data.

    Please don't think I am defending him, but there is a new strain now that seems to affect children differently, that makes up 10% of the covid cases in our country, and that we know very little about. I assume that's the data he is referring to


  • #8319
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    It seems that the HSE is telling everyone to stay at home until they find someone who is competent enough to devise a vaccine rollout plan.

    The are currently doing the bare minimum while hoarding the doses.

    Source?


  • #8320
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    Really?

    Garages that repair the cars and repair the delivery vehicles of essential ............

    .......

    Excellent post, I do feel that the majority of those who continually call for everything to be closed up, curfews etc only look at things through their own eyes.


  • #8321
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    embraer170 wrote: »
    In Tesco Killarney over Christmas I did not see any staff wearing masks at the tills (behind the plexiglass). I believe it must be some kind of store policy?!

    Much better mask wearing discipline at Dunnes, Aldi, Lidl, etc.

    In my local Aldi and Lidl no mask wearing at the till because they are behind a plexiglass.


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  • #8322
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    The only thing to do to keep yourself and your family safe: Don't go out unless you need to. Do one shop per week preferably in a 24 hour supermarket. Or not.
    That's what I have being more or less doing since March with a few exceptions.


  • #8323
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    statesaver wrote: »
    In my local Aldi and Lidl no mask wearing at the till because they are behind a plexiglass.
    Same in Tesco I was in today. Mind you it was like a giant plastic cage!


  • #8324
    Solar2021
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Solar2021


    This guy has good questions

    Suprised he didn't ask if Government got a tracking number with that Moderna vaccine delivery :pac:

    Might help Tony track it


  • #8325
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    statesaver wrote: »
    How many are backlog ?
    The number of cases reported today will have been uncomfortably close to the number of cases we've had today. I presume that's what your wondering, as opposed to trying to use the slow processing of numbers through the system to suggest we're not in the sh*t.


  • #8326
    Hubertj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Hubertj


    Question for you all - NOHET modelling at end of November was way way off what is happening now. How did they get it so wrong?
    Government made decisions based on this modelling and other data provided by different sources.
    Is it fair to say they wouldn’t have opened the economy to this extent of the modelling NPHET provided was more accurate?
    I’m trying to work this out in my head as everything seems way off! Thanks


  • #8327
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    Nolan basically just saying "we can't make any determinations about if schools are safe because we don't have the data"

    JFC WHAT IS THE POINT OF HIM I actually hate him like. He can pull the data out of his f'n ass any time he wants to say they're safe but then he just denies everything when OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE UNSAFE right now.

    There has been no data on schools for two weeks, so it is hard to say.


  • #8328
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    I don't think much of Karina Butlers bedside manner

    She is an absolute genius.

    My daughter went into hospital at 4 months old with just a temperature and within a week, was diagnosed by Professor Butler with an extremely rare disorder, the 5th or so child in Ireland to ever have had it, and oversaw her treatment for the following 6 months. Bedside manner was absolutely fine, and I am delighted she is overseeing the vaccine taskforce.


  • #8329
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,129 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Yeah but after a meaningful Cheltenham we’d have to impose restrictions again for Easter egg day.

    Another eggcellent post from you plumb.


  • #8330
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    The huge number of cases have a lot of posters very rattled tonight, but has also brought out a few of the loonies that were all over this thread last spring.We are back to March once more with disinfecting groceries,scared of Chinese fast food,wiping down petrol pumps,crossing the road to avoid walkers etc.
    The amount of MSG,salt and sugar will probably kill you faster than your outside chance of catching Covid from the takeaways.

    No one has ever found a single shred of evidence that MSG is bad for you. It naturally occurs in lots of foods, including tomatoes.


  • #8331
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    embraer170 wrote: »
    In Tesco Killarney over Christmas I did not see any staff wearing masks at the tills (behind the plexiglass). I believe it must be some kind of store policy?!

    Much better mask wearing discipline at Dunnes, Aldi, Lidl, etc.

    None of the staff in the butchers in Rathfarnham Village have been wearing masks in recent weeks. Won't buy meat there as a result.


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  • #8332
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    prunudo wrote: »
    Excellent post, I do feel that the majority of those who continually call for everything to be closed up, curfews etc only look at things through their own eyes.

    ‘I can work from home feck the rest of ye’ is certainly the impression I get. Btw I have to be on site everyday although happy to have the separation of home and work.


  • #8333
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Hubertj wrote: »
    Question for you all - NOHET modelling at end of November was way way off what is happening now. How did they get it so wrong?
    Government made decisions based on this modelling and other data provided by different sources.
    Is it fair to say they wouldn’t have opened the economy to this extent of the modelling NPHET provided was more accurate?
    I’m trying to work this out in my head as everything seems way off! Thanks
    It was off in October as well but TBF nobody imagined this level of cases. Models are little use to us now as we can see it around us. Absolute compliance is the only game in town right now.


  • #8334
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Hubertj wrote: »
    Question for you all - NOHET modelling at end of November was way way off what is happening now. How did they get it so wrong?
    Government made decisions based on this modelling and other data provided by different sources.
    Is it fair to say they wouldn’t have opened the economy to this extent of the modelling NPHET provided was more accurate?
    I’m trying to work this out in my head as everything seems way off! Thanks

    Didn't NPHET say that if they opened restaurants for 3 weeks then the hospitals would be overrun in January? Did I dream that?


  • #8335
    smurfjed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,689 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    Assume they have covid, 100%. Figure out "how do i get this food safely despite the fact the chef and servers all have covid", because it can be done

    Airline food is prepared in specially certified kitchens operating to the highest standards. We discovered in April that 4 people tested positive while delivering food to one of our flights, since then we took the easiest approach and banned all catering company prepared food from our flights.

    Same with our hotels, kitchen prepared food is acceptable as all kitchen staff are tested and kept in isolation. Externally prepared food is not permitted inside the hotel for us.

    So yep it can be done, especially if your company is willing to pay for it.


  • #8336
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,129 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    prunudo wrote: »
    Excellent post, I do feel that the majority of those who continually call for everything to be closed up, curfews etc only look at things through their own eyes.

    What about tanning saloons, bookies? They essential?


  • #8337
    Hubertj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Hubertj


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It was off in October as well but TBF nobody imagined this level of cases. Models are little use to us now as we can see it around us. Absolute compliance is the game in town right now.

    Ok thanks. Not looking to blame anyone, just trying to understand what the hell has happened!


  • #8338
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    The only thing to do to keep yourself and your family safe: Don't go out unless you need to. Do one shop per week preferably in a 24 hour supermarket. Or not.
    That's what I have being more or less doing since March with a few exceptions.


    We love to be in your situation , i will be back to work next Monday under the guise of construction, don't want to bring it back to my family,don't know where my colleagues have been over Christmas but have no choice.


  • #8339
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    You really need to take a step back. You will drive yourself insane.
    GooglePlus wrote: »
    If you're going to be that cautious, you may as well disinfect every grocery you buy in the shop as well.
    I just saw this now. If you have your shopping delivered you cut that risk. They take the stock from the warehouse in the supermarket that delivers ours, so it hasn't been on the shelves at all.

    The driver brings containers to the door on a trolley and we take the big blue bags and put them in boxes, washing our hands before handling anything else when we touch the bags. Then we leave the non-perishables in a box for three days before putting them away, rinse off all the veg and put it into separate plastic containers in the fridge. We wash our hands after handling it too. Meat packaging is wiped with disinfectant wipes and once the packet has been opened, we assume all the interior and meat is contaminated, washing hands if they come into contact and cooking it thoroughly. Frozen packaging wiped down as well before going into the freezer.

    I await the tirades of objectors but I just wanted to post my advice about food safety. Takeaway food would be a much higher risk, because you're not cooking it yourself and there are a number of people involved in preparing it and delivering it. Course it's all down to choice, but we've vulnerable people in our household so we're more risk-averse. Plus there's no harm keeping the fridge and food cupboards hygienic and well-organised.


  • #8340
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,108 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    She is an absolute genius.

    My daughter went into hospital at 4 months old with just a temperature and within a week, was diagnosed by Professor Butler with an extremely rare disorder, the 5th or so child in Ireland to ever have had it, and oversaw her treatment for the following 6 months. Bedside manner was absolutely fine, and I am delighted she is overseeing the vaccine taskforce.

    Hope your daughters OK now!


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  • #8341
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Nolan setting up return to primary schools only there by highlighting relative low incidence in primary age groups

    The unions won’t have that. Primary teachers working and secondary Ines nit


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