Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

Ger Roe wrote: »

Fear mongering or fact? If the stats are true, it's not fear mongering.

At this stage if someone tries to call any numbers "fear mongering" you can be 99% sure its an actual fact.

Eod100 wrote: »

"Every single Government source who spoke privately on Sunday did not expect schools to reopen on the week beginning January 11th." Seems inevitable schools will be delayed again. Government owe it to people to be upfront and give enough notice. Norma Foley meeting opposition today. Guess it could be announced on Wednesday or Thursday. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-government-fears-public-believes-it-has-lost-control-1.4449324?mode=amp

They should close til the 18th at least and pull the February mid term to make the time back.

nj27 wrote: »

Wonder if we'll ever hit the 1000 deaths a day stage. Cases are high so deaths will probably skyrocket soon.

I know we are just back to work but that kind of gloulish speculation is excessively morbid and unnecessary.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How does testing vulnerable groups help? Surely it's testing anyone and everyone to prevent the spread and protect the most vulnerable?

There comes a tipping point where the virus is so prevelant, that testing to find out where it is, becomes a waste of time and resources - it's everywhere.

At that point, treatment of serious cases is the main focus, the battle is lost, so look after people when they get it, as opposed to testing to prevent its spread.

They said all along, test and trace can not be scaled up without limit and it is a method of control that only makes sense if there is a possibility of control.

nj27 wrote: »

Wonder if we'll ever hit the 1000 deaths a day stage. Cases are high so deaths will probably skyrocket soon.

We need to get a grip. We have to realise our population is small so cant compare ourselves to the UK or Italy etc It's highly unlikely that we would hit 100 deaths a day. I imagine it could peak around 50-70 like it did in March. But back then it was a sh1t show in nursing homes that caused that. I suspect that we will see a worse infection rate and hospital rate but a lower death rate.

The first time around most of the deaths occurred outside hospitals. This time we may see them occurring in ICU.

Is the step down facility in City West still usuable and fully equipped do we know ?

nj27 wrote: »

What will be the peak daily deaths we will reach then

FFS, will you stop.

nj27 wrote: »

Wonder if we'll ever hit the 1000 deaths a day stage. Cases are high so deaths will probably skyrocket soon.

get a hold of yourself

JDD wrote: »

I kind of understand this and I kind of don't.

Say you restrict testing to over 55s and anyone high risk. So you are a 57 year old with asthma, get symptoms and get a test that comes back positive. What use is that you really? There's no early intervention treatment that prevents you from developing a severe case of the virus. The only point of testing to ensure that a positive case self isolates and does not infect others. If we are only testing a small section of a population, and letting the remainder go about their daily business while suffering from milder symptoms that they have convinced themselves is just a cold, perhaps there's no point in testing people with symptoms at all?

Would we not be better just regularly testing HCW, nursing homes and residential institutions (jails, direct provision etc) to prevent massive breakouts?

Then we could redeploy all the testing staff at the drive in centres to the vaccination centres?

You have answered your own question. The key to this is people taking responsibility. If anyone wants to blunder about their business until they are tested positive, then the battle is certainly lost.

The current advice is - act as though you already have it. Test and trace will never counteract mass indifference to the disease.

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The issue will be that it won't just be pushed out one week

It's one that they can make rolling decisions on and week by week makes sense.

Eod100 wrote: »

"Every single Government source who spoke privately on Sunday did not expect schools to reopen on the week beginning January 11th." Seems inevitable schools will be delayed again. Government owe it to people to be upfront and give enough notice. Norma Foley meeting opposition today. Guess it could be announced on Wednesday or Thursday. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-government-fears-public-believes-it-has-lost-control-1.4449324?mode=amp

what a failure of governance... schools were open all the way to the week before Christmas with no surges in case numbers.. In fact they've been shut now for two weeks with no reductive impact on case numbers... but FF's determination to sell pints results in schools now being closed well into January.

Fu(king di(kheads

FF's populism is toxic to this country.

caveat emptor wrote: »

This is a great idea to keep the numbers down and mask the policy failures and absolute failures. We've been very inventive in keeping people guessing at numbers. "Maybe they know, maybe they don't know, who can say for sure"

Go to work, don't go to work. Stay at home , have a great Christmas. Go to the pub/restaurant , don't go to the restaurant.
It's mind numbing at this stage.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/covid-testing-may-be-limited-to-vulnerable-groups-only-39928070.html

https://twitter.com/caulmick/status/1346007331465781249?s=20

I used to sub to the Indo for a few months but they have been absolutely atrocious with guess work on Covid, not sure if its just me but they literally try and seem to guess what is happening and are wrong about 80% of the time. Seems like clickbait from them.

The trend however is awful. It is worrying now as I am hearing of multiple cases from my local area which hasnt happened previously. I knew one positive case up until December and that is now up to 7 now. The local GAA club have had 38 positive cases from 40 tests after they opened for the Dublin game a couple of weeks ago. Its a small bar that doesnt serve food but yet they were somehow open for that. Out to the shops and back, a few walks locally should be the plan for everyone for the next few weeks.

I was not against the reduction in restrictions in December and probably over the month met about 10 people in total(My family and My OHs family). I didnt think people would go so gung ho and also didnt expect case numbers like this. At the end of the day, it shows that a large minority of people actually cant be trusted to restrain and police themselves at all.

Was it just said on radio interview that positivity rate of yesterday's tests hit 30%??!