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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #6122
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TheadoreT wrote: »
    What chance did we have.

    Nobody ever thinks they're to blame and point the finger elsewhere.

    What I see is people pointing the blame at an easily identifiable group, when responsibility is with society as a whole


  • #6123
    SpacialNeeds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭SpacialNeeds


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Surfaces are a tiny proportion of spread. Your mother appears better at keeping up with the developments in understanding how the virus spreads. Also, outdoors any particles will be dispersed almost immediately
    When there is ample UV, which there isn't in winter.

    Also the new strain of the virus requires a much lower viral load for effective transmission.


  • #6124
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Lack of taste is apparently a symptom of COVID-19.

    I just listened to an Ed Sheeran album...Should I seek out a test and self isolate?


  • #6125
    TheadoreT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭TheadoreT


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Surfaces are a tiny proportion of spread. Your mother appears better at keeping up with the developments in understanding how the virus spreads. Also, outdoors any particles will be dispersed almost immediately

    You do realise most of Europe have mandatory mask wearing in all outside areas? It's not due to misinformation or lack of risk.


  • #6126
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Oh ffs, not this again.

    You do realise that there are people of working age who are vulnerable? That they still have rent or mortgages and bills to pay, kids to take to school, etc? Or that they live or care for a vulnerable person?

    Not everyone who is "vulnerable" is over 65, and can just conveniently lock themselves indoors.



    So if you know its not a minor inconvenience, why do you think it would be so easy for vulnerable people to do it?

    Its a pandemic, if your that vulnerable then yes you stay the **** at home and receive the pup, we have asked thousands of younger people to do it, why the **** can't they do it too.


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  • #6127
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Surfaces are a tiny proportion of spread. Your mother appears better at keeping up with the developments in understanding how the virus spreads. Also, outdoors any particles will be dispersed almost immediately

    Yeah the thinking on surfaces has massively shifted.

    The focus is on airborne transmission


  • #6128
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Was the first one particularly ill from it?

    If not, then it wouldn't be a surprise if they were a bit causal about it




    I think the first one had some bad headaches for a day or two.



    Hard to know really. People can tend to downplay or over-exaggerate anyway. We've all had a bad flu where we are in bits for a day or so, or even a few hours, and once that passes we are so relieved that we think "ah, sure I'm not too bad now"


  • #6129
    SpacialNeeds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭SpacialNeeds


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Yeah the thinking on surfaces has massively shifted.

    The focus is on airborne transmission
    Where are you getting this from.

    If somebody coughs, sniffs, sneezes, all very common actions in winter, they may have viral particles on them. If they touch a surface then this surface will be contaminated and may infect someone else.

    There has been no change to this.


  • #6130
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    US life expectancy drops by 2-3 years in 2020, the largest drop in life expectancy in a year since WW2.

    Most shockingly, suicide rate in the US has dropped in 2020 for the first time since 2005. Oddly enough drug overdose has increased massively though, several countries have seen similar massive trend in drug overdose deaths this year, such as Canada and Japan iircc.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-deaths-to-reverse-u-s-life-expectancy-gains-11608613261


  • #6131
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Ah yeah, of course. I'd be the same. Look at some of my posts here.
    That's whatever but, slight difference between having a child like mindset and outlook and actually having common sense :D

    I would hazard that the majority of people have common sense , those that don’t never had and that won’t change. The constant search for people to blame though is tbh tiresome. Human nature does not allow for people to be in a heightened state of alert at all times ( stress very unhealthy). Some posters here expect far more form their fellow man than is possible to achieve all the time.


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  • #6132
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Sounds more like you think vulnerable people are a big inconvenience to your social life.

    Oh ffs, you have won the dumbest post of the day award


  • #6133
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    When there is ample UV, which there isn't in winter.

    Also the new strain of the virus requires a much lower viral load for effective transmission.

    The one with less than 10% prevalence here that’s increased transmissibility has only been theorised about because it coincided with a surge in the uk. The causal link has not been established, only the correlation, and given we surged without the “new strain” in the same manner as the uk, I would not be too certain that science will indicate that the new strain is any more transmissible


  • #6134
    Rosita
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    boardise wrote: »
    best succinct advice I heard just before Christmas from a member of NPHET ...

    >>>>Act as if you have it.

    Only problem with that is that people were expected to be going into work in businesses that were open. If someone had an actual Covid diagnosis that wouldn't happen. So it's a clever-sounding line but such simulation was not an option realistically open to many.


  • #6135
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    I think the first one had some bad headaches for a day or two.



    Hard to know really. People can tend to downplay or over-exaggerate anyway. We've all had a bad flu where we are in bits for a day or so, or even a few hours, and once that passes we are so relieved that we think "ah, sure I'm not too bad now"

    A few headaches!? It's no real wonder the brother wasn't too arsed.


  • #6136
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Schools, crashes and building sites are next.


  • #6137
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    US life expectancy drops by 2-3 years in 2020, the largest drop in life expectancy in a year since WW2.

    Most shockingly, suicide rate in the US has dropped in 2020 for the first time since 2005
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-deaths-to-reverse-u-s-life-expectancy-gains-11608613261

    It is therefore 100% conclusive - lockdowns are actually good for mental health and we should do them all the time


  • #6138
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Its a pandemic, if your that vulnerable then yes you stay the **** at home and receive the pup, we have asked thousands of younger people to do it, why the **** can't they do it too.




    I have a friend in her 30's who unfortunately can't take your medical advice to "stay the fuck at home". She is severely immunocompromised and has to attend hospital a few times a week to be pumped full of meds.
    By the way, have you considered offering your services to Mike Ryan? As an advisor maybe?



    The one tiny tiny positive from her perspective is that she is no longer the only person wearing a mask! Because she was wearing one for months before covid19 was in existence. One the other hand, the big negative is that if she caught it, there would be a good chance that it would kill her.



    Anyway though, probably not as important as you missing out on your magnificent social life.


  • #6139
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Hey lads do you think the illicit mink farm I've been running might have had something to do with the rise in cases?


  • #6140
    SpacialNeeds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭SpacialNeeds


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The one with less than 10% prevalence here that’s increased transmissibility has only been theorised about because it coincided with a surge in the uk. The causal link has not been established, only the correlation, and given we surged without the “new strain” in the same manner as the uk, I would not be too certain that science will indicate that the new strain is any more transmissible
    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/211793/new-covid-19-variant-growing-rapidly-england/
    New variant of concern (VOC)
    This higher transmissibility will make control more difficult
    Professor Neil Ferguson
    Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team


  • #6141
    twowheelsonly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Surfaces are a tiny proportion of spread. Your mother appears better at keeping up with the developments in understanding how the virus spreads. Also, outdoors any particles will be dispersed almost immediately

    I trust surfaces less that I trust the air..

    Particles will disperse more easily outdoors (depending on weather conditions) but if you ever see people breathing out on a cold morning you can see how far those particles can potentially travel before they start to disperse. When they do disperse though they still go somewhere !!


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  • #6142
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Perhaps a new government would handle this situation better?


  • #6143
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    I have a friend in her 30's who unfortunately can't take your medical advice to "stay the fuck at home". She is severely immunocompromised and has to attend hospital a few times a week to be pumped full of meds.
    By the way, have you considered offering your services to Mike Ryan? As an advisor maybe?



    The one tiny tiny positive from her perspective is that she is no longer the only person wearing a mask! Because she was wearing one for months before covid19 was in existence. One the other hand, the big negative is that if she caught it, there would be a good chance that it would kill her.



    Anyway though, probably not as important as you missing out on your magnificent social life.

    I have a 10 month old, I don't have a social life. Why keep saying this, I never mentioned anything about a social life. Is she working, because that is what the poster was referring to.


  • #6144
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Perhaps a new government would handle this situation better?

    Vote Nphet number 1, Tony for Taoiseach.


  • #6145
    TheadoreT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭TheadoreT


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Perhaps a new government would handle this situation better?

    Given how Sinn Fein have handled it up north I'd highly doubt that.


  • #6146
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I can't work from home. If I could, there's no way I would be going in.

    Nor can I and while some of my work has moved online much of it involves me in a room with another person. There is a 2 metre distance and I keep the window open but still.


  • #6147
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    This huge surge around the Christmas and New Year proves the link between Travel and spread. Not that it was needed.


  • #6148
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Vote Nphet number 1, Tony for Taoiseach.

    I would genuinely leave the country if that ever happened.


  • #6149
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TheadoreT wrote: »
    You do realise most of Europe have mandatory mask wearing in all outside areas? It's not due to misinformation or lack of risk.

    For situations that may arise where physical distance can’t be maintained, not for passing someone on the footpath.


  • #6150
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Looks like huge amounts of people just aren't listening to the advice anymore. Young and old.


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  • #6151
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,469 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    Where are you getting this from.
    If somebody coughs, sniffs, sneezes, all very common actions in winter, they may have viral particles on them. If they touch a surface then this surface will be contaminated and may infect someone else.
    There has been no change to this.

    From the CDC:
    The primary and most important mode of transmission for COVID-19 is through close contact from person-to-person. Based on data from lab studies on COVID-19 and what we know about similar respiratory diseases, it may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this isn’t thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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