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Nightline/Parcel Motel Thread Part 2 (post all related questions here)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    harmless wrote: »
    There has only been 2 working days since the 23rd, I wouldn't give up yet.

    I had two items delivered to PM NI on the 23rd, and I collected them from my local PM depot on the first working day after Xmas. I've since collected an item that was delivered to them on the 29th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,482 ✭✭✭JG009


    So on amazon uk it seems there are heft fees customs fees now. So much for free movement. Can't see them making this work. Damn you brexit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭ibFoxer


    JG009 wrote: »
    So on amazon uk it seems there are heft fees customs fees now. So much for free movement. Can't see them making this work. Damn you brexit.

    Where are you seeing the fees? I haven't seen any yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭sweetie


    ibFoxer wrote: »
    Where are you seeing the fees? I haven't seen any yet.

    I added a £15.80 item to basket, on checkout price reduces to £13 for delivery to my Dublin home. I assume uk Vat is removed and I'd be liable for Irish vat payment. However, will Amazon delivery contractors be collecting it?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    sweetie wrote: »
    I added a £15.80 item to basket, on checkout price reduces to £13 for delivery to my Dublin home. I assume uk Vat is removed and I'd be liable for Irish vat payment. However, will Amazon delivery contractors be collecting it?

    No, Amazon will look after it, unless its a Marketplace seller. If its Amazon is should re-add the estimated import fees which is Irish VAT.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭sweetie


    whiterebel wrote: »
    No, Amazon will look after it.

    So when will it be charged? Otherwise at the moment it looks like I'm getting it VAT free. No shipping until February must be something to do with it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    sweetie wrote: »
    So when will it be charged? Otherwise at the moment it looks like I'm getting it VAT free. No shipping until February must be something to do with it.

    It’s under €22 and at the moment it looks like they are not collecting the VAT on it. That will end on 1st July.


  • Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭styron


    A bit perverse that post-brexit UK exports are stripping HM's exchequer of VAT receipts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭harmless


    styron wrote: »
    A bit perverse that post-brexit UK exports are stripping HM's exchequer of VAT receipts.


    This is normal when selling outside of your countries VAT zone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,482 ✭✭✭JG009


    ibFoxer wrote: »
    Where are you seeing the fees? I haven't seen any yet.

    Well after your message I looked more closely.

    It says "import deposit fees" but its like that is part of the item price.

    VAT?

    Do we pay more then when said item lands in Ireland??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭harmless


    JG009 wrote: »
    Well after your message I looked more closely.

    It says "import deposit fees" but its like that is part of the item price.

    VAT?

    Do we pay more then when said item lands in Ireland??


    Yes import duties is just VAT with no customs.
    It's probably done like this to make it very clear VAT has been paid in Ireland and not the UK.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭sweetie


    whiterebel wrote: »
    It’s under €22 and at the moment it looks like they are not collecting the VAT on it. That will end on 1st July.

    nice, so a few quid to be saved until then!


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    styron wrote: »
    A bit perverse that post-brexit UK exports are stripping HM's exchequer of VAT receipts.
    It's the Irish exchequer that's losing out in this case as Amazon had already been collecting Irish VAT on shipments to this country.

    It seems Prime users win out on <€22 orders for the next six months. However, non-Prime users availing of free delivery over £20 are now being charged VAT on the non-existent £6 delivery fee.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,871 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    styron wrote: »
    A bit perverse that post-brexit UK exports are stripping HM's exchequer of VAT receipts.

    so anything AmazonUk have sold into Ireland for as long as I've been using it, never charged UK Vat anyway. They sell over the threshold of 75k or whatever it is atm, so my understanding is they were required by lay to register and charge Irish VAT which they did

    tbh, i'm not sure why that is changing, seems odd


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,482 ✭✭✭JG009


    harmless wrote: »
    Yes import duties is just VAT with no customs.
    It's probably done like this to make it very clear VAT has been paid in Ireland and not the UK.

    So sorry to sound thick but if I bought that said item, after paying irish vat on amazon I would be hit with customs on top and a collection fee when it gets to Ireland!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭harmless


    JG009 wrote: »
    So sorry to sound thick but if I bought that said item, after paying irish vat on amazon I would be hit with customs on top and a collection fee when it gets to Ireland!?


    No you can only pay Irish VAT once.
    There are no customs duty on any of these goods.


    Revenue say there may be customs duty owed but don't list a single example.
    Does anyone know what goods attract customs duty with the free trade deal?


  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭lcstress2012


    Have anyone got anything delivered using the Irish address instead of Northern Ireland? If so, what was the delivery time and did you have a long wait to get your parcel in the locker compared to the NI address?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Ogham


    harmless wrote: »
    No you can only pay Irish VAT once.
    There are no customs duty on any of these goods.


    Revenue say there may be customs duty owed but don't list a single example.
    Does anyone know what goods attract customs duty with the free trade deal?

    None - there are no tariffs / duties on goods moving between the UK and the EU


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭harmless


    mod <snip> You have the same question on another forum. Don’t cross post, keep it on the other thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,755 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    What aren’t parcel motel transferring any arriving shipments to their Dublin base and then out to the lockers?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭harmless


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    What aren’t parcel motel transferring any arriving shipments to their Dublin base and then out to the lockers?




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,482 ✭✭✭JG009


    Aside from the Vat/customs end of things are UPS going to keep the lockers in action? Or did they just buy PM to kill it off?


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    JG009 wrote: »
    Aside from the Vat/customs end of things are UPS going to keep the lockers in action? Or did they just buy PM to kill it off?
    UPS bought Nighline. Parcel Motel is just a side business Nightline set up that came as part of the package.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Richard308


    I’d something ordered early December. It was due for parcelmotel delivery 29/12. I rang they said they would refuse to accept parcel in newtownabbey and it would then be returned to sender. I checked the amazon tracking, it showed delivered on the 30/12 at parcelmotel. Hasn’t shown up on my dash. Are they back accepting deliveries. Tried to ring that day couldn’t get through. Any information?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭ibFoxer


    Richard308 wrote: »
    I’d something ordered early December. It was due for parcelmotel delivery 29/12. I rang they said they would refuse to accept parcel in newtownabbey and it would then be returned to sender. I checked the amazon tracking, it showed delivered on the 30/12 at parcelmotel. Hasn’t shown up on my dash. Are they back accepting deliveries. Tried to ring that day couldn’t get through. Any information?

    I'd assume they are back open today, maybe try them on the phone again? I have a few bits into the new Finglas address since the 30th that there hasn't been a stir on, but I assume a combination of being closed and overwhelmed is the cause of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Richard308


    But my parcel was into newtownabbey which they said wouldn’t accept parcels after 28/12


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Richard308 wrote: »
    But my parcel was into newtownabbey which they said wouldn’t accept parcels after 28/12
    What they say and what they actually do are two different things!

    They were strict in their statements to ensure they wouldn't be burdened with a deluge of last-minute stuff that may or may not make it in time.

    However I'm fairly sure that anything they receive without issue, they'll process.


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭surfin_shoes


    Quackster wrote: »
    What they say and what they actually do are two different things!

    They were strict in their statements to ensure they wouldn't be burdened with a deluge of last-minute stuff that may or may not make it in time.

    However I'm fairly sure that anything they receive without issue, they'll process.

    Yeah hope so mate, my parcel from Japan is due in to them today at some stage, here's hoping they process it without issue


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Richard308


    Well I got notified a little while ago they have it. So I’m happy. Hope your package from Japan makes it without issue


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭gar


    Looks like a lot of retailers have dropped off on free returns. Schuh for one is no longer listed


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