Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

[Deleted User] wrote: »

"Statistical lag" my hind quarters, shorthand for "the systems we have in place are woefully outmoded and not fit for purpose".

This is not a lot of data. Even if your system was built in the 1990s it would have no issue with 5,000 pieces of data.

My suspicion here is that they're not entirely sure why there's a "statistical lag" and are just giving vague responses.

I still believe that because a lot of GPs and hospital doctors are off until Monday, there are 9,000 test results sitting in email inboxes waiting to be read and reported to the HSE.

What systems do they really need to give proper numbers? Surely the actual testing is the hard part, requiring sophisticated equipment and significant manpower to collect swabs, analyse them and administer it all. But that is happening and the swab data is there. Surely everything after that can be done on an Excel spreadsheet (calculating 7/14 day averages, analysing trends, etc.)? They seem to be overcomplicating the easier part, just go with the bloody swab data! Check for duplications or whatever over the next days and denotify if necessary.

Why are manufacturers so slow at producing doses of the vaccine?

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Do you think the person on the street is watching for swab numbers?

Probably not. Maybe the journalists should report them.

It is provisional numbers though.

sonofenoch wrote: »

What happened to you Simon Templar? ....you used be a proper bloke

He's become The Saint

seamus wrote: »

This is not a lot of data. Even if your system was built in the 1990s it would have no issue with 5,000 pieces of data.

My suspicion here is that they're not entirely sure why there's a "statistical lag" and are just giving vague responses.

I still believe that because a lot of GPs and hospital doctors are off until Monday, there are 9,000 test results sitting in email inboxes waiting to be read and reported to the HSE.

Yup, you need 3 pieces of data per test to do a duplicate check. A test id, patient id and the test status, and then you're doing a lookup back to the actual dataset of test results for where the patient id hasnt been there previously. You can do this stuff on excel never mind any decent system.

Just to update , don't have numbers but lots of reports from colleagues of symptomatic younger people in A&E today and last few days , and being admitted .

I take NPHET with a pinch of salt. Several of them, particularly the “front facing” folk, have no or little clinical or medical experience. This is no criticism of them. Their forte lies in the cut and thrust of committee rooms and teleconferences and promulgating minutes and memos and memos of minutes and minutes of memos for ministers. You won’t find them developing a vaccine, working on therapeutics or working in the covid wards. But hey they are the experts. I mean in what real world scenario would you go along with the following: some guy bursts into a room explaining that there’s an emergency coming/is here at present and whatever else we, or other experts, think we should go with what he says even though he can’t actually get us out of this.

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

A country that is home to the tech giants of the world. Tens thousands of people working in the "IT" field . Wouldn't you think the hse would have managed to outsource the development of a better system.

Although on the other hand they have recently said that the growth rate is now far beyond the worst modelling so its fair to say that we are just not prepared for this level of transmission. Remember it's the hse we are talking about.

When this pandemic has passed the hse needs to be gutted and rebuilt from the ground up. Remove the dead weight and give Ireland the public health system we deserve and pay over the odds for!

It’s Ireland, so the contract is probably with a consultants wife’s brothers company who was paid around 30% over the odds to develop, implement and manage a system not fit for purpose in the first place.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Maybe they should be back to paper and pencils for the next few weeks

2-3 days training for that mate plus a risk assessment

Stheno wrote: »

Jesus this thing is the non gift that keeps on giving if that's the case

I would imagine the same is true across europe so.

Lots of young people being admitted

MOR316 wrote: »

I can't understand what people have have been at...

Throughout the Summer and December, in line with restrictions, I travelled out of my county. I went to bars/restaurants. I drank, I went for my walks along the sea. I don't have the virus and never had symptoms of the virus. Fair enough, I was on my own and I wasn't hanging out with anyone but, I didn't see anyone else acting the bollocks.

What the hell has been happening behind closed doors? As someone said earlier, have they been licking each other?

Found out this morning that one of my housemates went to 4 or 5 different house parties last night.

4. Or. 5.