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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #4652
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    I was up in cratloe woods today, it was a lovely day for it. The place was packed, everyone out in the fresh air. Hard to believe the world is going end in a few weeks according to the reactions on here.


  • #4653
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    It’s really strange how things have turned so fast. It’s hard to believe it’s entirely down to a minor relaxation of restrictions. It never took off like this in Sept / Oct.

    Didn't see crowds in town like I saw in the run upto Christmas back in September.

    We also didn't see Christmas family gatherings in September.


  • #4654
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,074 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How is testing and contact tracing so bad and slow now? Can we not get our sh!te together after 9 months, it seems to have got worse
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  • #4655
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Thinking at this stage they should announce the cases including the backlog less 10% or something and worry about denotifying later tbh. At this stage it needs to be RTE giving out a number and they don’t seem to report much on the backlog as far as I know except quoting the press conference yesterday where they mentioned 4k


  • #4656
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,360 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Cases are after a checking process. They are released after the checking process is completed.

    This checking process only seems to create more inaccuracies, even with it they denotify previously announced cases near daily. They should just announce the raw swab numbers and denotify as necessary later, it might even lead to less denotifications! You can't identify trends from the announced cases numbers now as they are severally under-reported atm and will likely be over-reported for several days to catch up again. It is a completely flawed system.


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  • #4657
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,398 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Has there been any research done on the prevalence of the Kent variant here?


  • #4658
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Didn't see crowds in town like I saw in the run upto Christmas back in September.

    We also didn't see Christmas family gatherings in September.

    Are these numbers not from the week leading up to Christmas rather than Christmas itself? The upward trajectory started very quickly in December before many family gatherings were taking place.


  • #4659
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Cases very late to be announced today, must be trying to figure out a plan of action.


  • #4660
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Gavin Reilly tweeted an hour ago that yesterday there were 5,500 positive swabs.
    A positivity rate of 20%

    Why were only 1600 announced then?

    Because with those numbers schools would have to close and they don’t want that


  • #4661
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,602 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    How is testing and contact tracing so bad and slow now? Can we not get our sh!te together after 9 months, it seems to have got worse


    It only works with small numbers, once you allow virus to lose control, you too lose control of the ability to trace it.
    It's clearly out of control now, and the FAke LEVEL 5 ain't going to get it back in control.


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  • #4662
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    ElJeffe wrote: »

      Not one single person has said that.

      Maybe you need more fresh air?

      Certainly feels like it, people need to chill the **** out.


    • #4663
      Stheno
      Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


      mcburns07 wrote: »
      Are these numbers not from the week leading up to Christmas rather than Christmas itself? The upward trajectory started very quickly in December before many family gatherings were taking place.

      I'd say they directly correlate to people finishing work and going out or home for Christmas


    • #4664
      thelad95
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


      JP Liz V1 wrote: »
      How is testing and contact tracing so bad and slow now? Can we not get our sh!te together after 9 months, it seems to have got worse

      It was cited last week that many people were having 30 close contacts.

      1600 cases yesterday times 30 = 48,000 calls that need to be made in one day and 48,000 people that need to go for testing.

      Contact tracing works when the public is also co-operating. When the public is taking the piss and doing as they please, the arse falls out of it.


    • #4665
      Crocodile Booze
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


      niallo27 wrote: »
      Certainly feels like it, people need to chill the **** out.

      The problem is that too many selfish and ignorant people are "chilled the **** out", hence this mess.


    • #4666
      Ger Roe
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


      JP Liz V1 wrote: »
      How is testing and contact tracing so bad and slow now? Can we not get our sh!te together after 9 months, it seems to have got worse

      While I wouldn't be too quick to defend the HSE, there does come a point where no trace system in the world will be able to cope, and we are at it now.

      Track and trace is an aid to control in a controllable circumstance - we are now out of control. We could never rely on tracking to keep us safe, if people were not doing their utmost to restrict contacts too.

      We were promised a christmas and we got it. Be careful what you wish for.
      Those who said that we would slip off the leash for while and deal with it in January, may yet regret that attitude.


    • #4667
      ExMachina1000
      Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


      "To support the testing system through this surge, we are no longer advising close contacts of confirmed cases to get tested. Testing and tracing is an exercise in containment and we are no longer in a containment phase"

      Tony Holohan

      That's why in case anyone is wondering but missed his comments


    • #4668
      Reckless Abandonment
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


      prunudo wrote: »
      Cases very late to be announced today, must be trying to figure out a plan of action.

      Unorganised like the tracks and trace. it shows poor organisational standards if the can't even release a number at the same time .


    • #4669
      Ace2007
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


      JP Liz V1 wrote: »
      How is testing and contact tracing so bad and slow now? Can we not get our sh!te together after 9 months, it seems to have got worse

      1. They came out a few days ago and said a significant % of people where not answering calls from contract tracer, or are ignoring the advice.

      2. Why is it up to the government, the HSE, and the contract tracing team to "get our sh!te together" - why is it not for the public to listen to what they are being told and reduce contacts - why is it that we have people meeting up with friends before the lockdown happens - as if this is helping the siutation?


    • #4670
      CIARAN_BOYLE
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


      thelad95 wrote: »
      It was cited last week that many people were having 30 close contacts.

      1600 cases yesterday times 30 = 48,000 calls that need to be made in one day and 48,000 people that need to go for testing.

      Contact tracing works when the public is also co-operating. When the public is taking the piss and doing as they please, the arse falls out of it.

      Or 5000 times 30 based on yesterday's swab figures. 150,000.

      It doesn't matter how good a system we have its not gonna cope.


    • #4671
      ElJeffe
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


      niallo27 wrote: »
      Certainly feels like it, people need to chill the **** out.

      It's just a discussion of a very vrry dangerous situation. I don't see anyone panicking


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    • #4672
      niallo27
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


      Crocodile Booze wrote: »
      The problem is that too many selfish and ignorant people are "chilled the **** out", hence this mess.

      I'm pretty chilled out and haven't got the virus or given it to anyone else. Just relax and keep doing the right things, no need to panic.


    • #4673
      Paul Weller
      Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭Paul Weller


      niallo27 wrote: »
      I'm pretty chilled out and haven't got the virus or given it to anyone else. Just relax and keep doing the right things, no need to panic.

      Unfortunately, people aren't doing the right things..and herein lies the problem


    • #4674
      spookwoman
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


      niallo27 wrote: »
      Certainly feels like it, people need to chill the **** out.

      Where has it been said or indicated the end of the word is near? You seem to be the only one that's going into drama queen mode.


    • #4675
      Ger Roe
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


      niallo27 wrote: »
      I'm pretty chilled out and haven't got the virus or given it to anyone else. Just relax and keep doing the right things, no need to panic.

      I suppose you don't have a cancelled hospital appointment either? There are numerous ways the virus can affect you, even if you don't catch it or pass it on.


    • #4676
      ExMachina1000
      Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


      Is there a press conference scheduled?


    • #4677
      BorneTobyWilde
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,602 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


      This refusal to lock down correctly is going to cost a lot of lives .


    • #4678
      titan18
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


      Are they releasing numbers today? This is very late


    • #4679
      Stooped
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭Stooped


      1,754 cases and 11 deaths according to Chambers


    • #4680
      Pete_Cavan
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,360 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


      Gael23 wrote: »
      Because with those numbers schools would have to close and they don’t want that

      Numbers have been fairly under control while schools were in and fluctuations have been based on other restrictions changing but schools remaining a near constant. If anything, the spike we are seeing now is probably more being increased by schools being off.


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    • #4681
      stephenjmcd
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


      1,754 new cases
      11 additional deaths


    This discussion has been closed.
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