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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #4442
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    messin doorman wrote: »
    Are these the usual 530pm cases for today or are they some other figure? If the latter where can I see them please?

    These are the daily swabs. They are what Nolan referred to yesterday when he said there was 4k swabs that had been tested as positive but not checked to ensure that they were individual cases.

    These are released on the HSE covid dashboard or for a more user friendly format you can look

    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    The cases come later in the day.


  • #4443
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    We’ll have to agree to disagree, but considering human nature in the event of a vaccine being years away(thankfully it’s here) the needs of the majority would outweigh the minority and as always being the case the greater good would come to the fore. Although it’s a hypothetical as we are not in a no vaccine situation.

    Greater good being what exactly?

    Least painful option would be the zero covid. Most painful would be the let it rip and considering this is a coronavirus that may never actually be reduced to effective numbers to minimise economic and social harm. A society that chose to live with the virus would have to adopt a very different economy and way of living.

    Diseases rarely disappear. We have to eradicate or contain them.


  • #4444
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Schools opening on 11 January with this amount of virus circulating is a pipe dream,.


  • #4445
    IrishStuff09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭IrishStuff09


    messin doorman wrote: »
    Are these the usual 530pm cases for today or are they some other figure? If the latter where can I see them please?

    Should have confirmed, they are positive swabs reported by labs in the last 24 hours. The case number should be out later, but for the past week or so the cases have been severely underreported (hence the huge discrepancy).

    Swabs are here: https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/


  • #4446
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    messin doorman wrote: »
    Are these the usual 530pm cases for today or are they some other figure? If the latter where can I see them please?

    These are swabs that have tested positive in the past 24 hours

    Cases are different, positive swabs have to be verified as actual new cases

    There is already a backlog of 4000 unverified cases


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  • #4447
    Sierra Oscar
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    IrishStuff09 wrote: »
    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021

    That is insane. I can see why NPHET are looking for Level 5 ++.


  • #4448
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Have we seen Northern numbers for today yet?


  • #4449
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    It probably isn't crazy to suggest that around 1 in 20 people in Ireland have caught this virus in the last 14 days.


  • #4450
    aisling86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭aisling86


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    Jebus if we ever had a daily figure like that the internet would explode.

    This needs to happen to shock people into staying at home asap!!


  • #4451
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    That is insane. I can see why NPHET are looking for Level 5 ++.

    Curfew?


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  • #4452
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    That is insane. I can see why NPHET are looking for Level 5 ++.

    Well they can't be blamed
    for rising cases so if they are as u say.


  • #4453
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Solar2021 wrote: »

    For 2020 the current average population increase is estimated at 81 million people

    Unless you believe strongly in reincarnation, you do know that the people added are different to those who died right?


  • #4454
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Greater good being what exactly?

    It’s quite simple in the hypothetical situation you posed, you decide if a small number of deaths Covid related is preferable to vast numbers due to proverty and unrest. As I said though vaccines are here so such a situation doesn’t arise .


  • #4455
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Test test test!!!
    We would’ve had similar case numbers at the beginning if we were testing 20-30k people a day!


  • #4456
    messin doorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭messin doorman


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    These are the daily swabs. They are what Nolan referred to yesterday when he said there was 4k swabs that had been tested as positive but not checked to ensure that they were individual cases.

    These are released on the HSE covid dashboard or for a more user friendly format you can look

    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    The cases come later in the day.

    Living with covid. Christ what a stupid idea. Lockdown reopen lockdown reopen. Christ.

    I mean the only official rationale I heard for not doing zero covid was that:

    We are an open economy (by which I presume it means American banking executives need to be able to jet into the IFSC or Shannon or whatever other tax haven we have established), and

    We share a land border with NI that we won’t seal up and police (by which I presume it is meant that we must prioritize over our own citizens the strange identity crises that some NI citizens have to claim to belong to the south)

    There’s been no other good reason to not adopt zero covid

    I mean what we are doing is the craziest of all (we’ve been in lockdown effectively sinceOctober with a three week break in between and look where we are). Christ it would be better to let the disease rip rather than the present strategy.


  • #4457
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Anyone a bit worried that we may not be able to get cases down with the new varient being more contagious?

    our goverment is so insistent on keeping schools open


  • #4458
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭jams100


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    Curfew?

    Police state?


  • #4459
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    IrishStuff09 wrote: »
    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021

    That is humbling


  • #4460
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Hopefully the case numbers can catch up today. People might get frightened when they see those numbers over another 1600 figure


  • #4461
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Reopening the country in December 4th provided a massive seeding event to occur and then the entire country came together to have dinner indoors and spend several hours in close contact.

    I can see now why Tony Holohan said no to hospitality + household visits.

    What a mess. Surely schools are a no go now and possibly non essential work may be given the bullet too. TH was right yesterday when he said we need to move to a policy of behaving as if every single person in the country is infected and avoiding all contact where possible.


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  • #4462
    IrishStuff09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭IrishStuff09


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    Jebus if we ever had a daily figure like that the internet would explode.

    As it stands, the amount of people checking the swabs site has increased from a constant ~200 to almost 2000 a day. Can't imagine what a reported case number like this would do!

    gaQkC2L.png


  • #4463
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    IrishStuff09 wrote: »
    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021

    Ah here this is getting ridiculous now. I'm extremely worried about the capacity of our hospitals to cope with the inevitable strain that's coming.


  • #4464
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Nolan estimated the backlog at 4k yesterday so 9.5k.

    Wait, wtf, are you saying today's 5000 and whatever cases doesn't include the backlog of 4000????


  • #4465
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    It probably isn't crazy to suggest that around 1 in 20 people in Ireland have caught this virus in the last 14 days.
    You believe 250,000 people have caught it? I actually do think that's a bit crazy.


  • #4466
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Wait, wtf, are you saying today's 5000 and whatever cases doesn't include the backlog of 4000????

    It doesn't include the backlog
    The backlog is cases, not swabs


  • #4467
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭jackboy


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Anyone a bit worried that we may not be able to get cases down with the new varient being more contagious?

    We can definitely get it down with the right restrictions for the right length of time. The continued non policing of restrictions though is a problem. It means a lot more restrictions than should be required are required as there are too many people exempt from restrictions.


  • #4468
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Test test test!!!
    We would’ve had similar case numbers at the beginning if we were testing 20-30k people a day!

    Yes. That's not news. We also had 30, 40, 60 deaths per day for a while after that kind of infection rate.


  • #4469
    messin doorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭messin doorman


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    It probably isn't crazy to suggest that around 1 in 20 people in Ireland have caught this virus in the last 14 days.

    Jeez that’s scary. How do you work that out?


  • #4470
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    titan18 wrote: »
    Hopefully the case numbers can catch up today. People might get frightened when they see those numbers over another 1600 figure

    A fright would do no harm at this stage.


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  • #4471
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    blade1 wrote: »
    Well they can't be blamed
    for rising cases so if they are as u say.

    No surely its George Lees fault.


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