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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #4412
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Will there be any swab numbers today with it being New Years? Thanks

    Unlikely


  • #4413
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    This 'statement' if you could call it that belongs in the dustbin, along with many other posts on this thread relating to schools closing.
    Posters campaigning to close schools should at least have the decency to acknowledge that if schools shut, it is going to severely impact children, their future outcomes, their learning, their socialisation, language development, and a host of other issues. This is a FACT. There are many many papers and studies to back this up. Home schooling is not a substitute for formal education, and despite what people might have you believe, these children eventually integrate into the mainstream system at 2nd level or college with huge gaps in their learning and development.
    To teachers continuously adding fuel to the fire campaigning to have schools shut, at least acknowledge that this is because of a personal situation you may find yourself in, in relation to contact with vulnerable people, etc., and is not the blanket view of teachers across the board.

    Educational outcomes higher among students in "School of the Air"

    https://search.proquest.com/openview/8db8b112c58e8cedb9e7cc8b7105de53/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=1816594

    The reality is the parent is the primary care giver and educator of children according to the Irish constitution. Parents make a choice when having kids that they should be able to look after all their needs under any eventuality. This current pandemic is one of those eventualities. School related activity adds at least .25 to a Ro number so parents need to take one for the team and mind their own offspring


  • #4414
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    This 'statement' if you could call it that belongs in the dustbin, along with many other posts on this thread relating to schools closing.
    Posters campaigning to close schools should at least have the decency to acknowledge that if schools shut, it is going to severely impact children, their future outcomes, their learning, their socialisation, language development, and a host of other issues. This is a FACT. There are many many papers and studies to back this up. Home schooling is not a substitute for formal education, and despite what people might have you believe, these children eventually integrate into the mainstream system at 2nd level or college with huge gaps in their learning and development.
    To teachers continuously adding fuel to the fire campaigning to have schools shut, at least acknowledge that this is because of a personal situation you may find yourself in, in relation to contact with vulnerable people, etc., and is not the blanket view of teachers across the board.

    Ara stop. Kids who are home schooled properly do just fine. And the kids missing a few weeks here and there in a pandemic will largely be just grand. Huge gaps me arse, ask Edison, Leonardo Da Vinci, CS Lewis, Charles Dickens, the Wright brothers, Winston Churchill, Amelia Earhart, Mark Twain, Jane Austen, Mozart, Walt Whitman, and Ernest Shackleton. Really severely impacted by lack of going out to school :rolleyes:


  • #4415
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Solar2021 wrote: »
    How long does the GP think vaccine antibodies will last?

    The same 6 weeks?



    Solar2021 wrote: »
    There isn't really

    It's a very complex topic and they can't say if natural antibodies are better or worse than vaccine antibodies

    I am only talking about antibodies now, our immune system has many other defences than just antibodies and I'm not saying vaccine's won't be more effective than natural infection

    I would say his GP, and most GP's, haven't a breeze any more than the rest of us, but some probably like to convey that they have.


  • #4416
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    :) Can't help but smile at little kids being called dry shytes, just a funny way of putting it.
    Really I just wanted to present the alternative point of view because all I hear is how desperately kids need school. There are 2 sides to the story.

    If I remember correctly your children are home schooled, have you ever used the public system? As I said yesterday school for many children is the only normal part of there day, a guaranteed meal for many. Although a poster here who is a teacher stated food during the last lockdown was being delivered to children who potentially would miss these meals when schools closed, I hope this continues.


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  • #4417
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Any swab numbers today?


  • #4418
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Ara stop. Kids who are home schooled properly do just fine. And the kids missing a few weeks here and there in a pandemic will largely be just grand. Huge gaps me arse, ask Edison, Leonardo Da Vinci, CS Lewis, Charles Dickens, the Wright brothers, Winston Churchill, Amelia Earhart, Mark Twain, Jane Austen, Mozart, Walt Whitman, and Ernest Shackleton. Really severely impacted by lack of going out to school :rolleyes:

    Any evidence to back this nonsense post up? I've plenty to show all levels will have to repeated next year if a substantial amount of time is missed this year once again.


  • #4419
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    titan18 wrote: »
    Any swab numbers today?

    Probably not. They haven't been released on a bank holiday before.


  • #4420
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    If a vaccine was years away and an attempt to keep COVID cases low at all costs , we would have far greater problems tbh. A healthcare system collapsing would be terrible, the world economy collapsing would be far more cataclysmic imo.

    The economy would be fcked until you bought covid under control. Only option I can see in a long term no vax scenario would be get covid low, suppress and isolate the fck out of it. Then don't let it come back. That way people don't have to contend to with rolling lockdowns that cripple everything including the economy.


  • #4421
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Stheno wrote: »
    Unlikely

    I'll stop bashing the poor F5 button then!


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  • #4422
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    Educational outcomes higher among students in "School of the Air"

    https://search.proquest.com/openview/8db8b112c58e8cedb9e7cc8b7105de53/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=1816594

    The reality is the parent is the primary care giver and educator of children according to the Irish constitution. Parents make a choice when having kids that they should be able to look after all their needs under any eventuality. This current pandemic is one of those eventualities. School related activity adds at least .25 to a Ro number so parents need to take one for the team and mind their own offspring

    Posting an A4 page from some obscure Australian website proves absolutely nothing in your post. You're also stating that everyone that has a child in Ireland, should do so in the knowledge that they may have to eventually abandon their jobs to rear and educate them? Are you living in the 19th Century? Perhaps you're living in the Irish land of Wild Mountain Thyme, which I've just turned off due to its complete lack of awareness of the reality of Ireland 2020 :-)


  • #4423
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    If I remember correctly your children are home schooled, have you ever used the public system? As I said yesterday school for many children is the only normal part of there day, a guaranteed meal for many. Although a poster here who is a teacher stated food during the last lockdown was being delivered to children who potentially would miss these meals when schools closed, I hope this continues.

    Yes, used both. Both worked fine. Both have their function when working well.


  • #4424
    aisling86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭aisling86


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    I'll stop bashing the poor F5 button then!

    Its showing data for 20th September for me currently.


  • #4425
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Just found out that the backlog are all the private testing companies.

    One company I deal with through work said they registered 600 positives on 27th alone. From taking to them they are all fed into the hub for 'positive swabs' so they'll show up there, but won't yet have been notified to the HSPC for the daily validated numbers


  • #4426
    octsol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭octsol


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    I'll stop bashing the poor F5 button then!

    Swabs released


  • #4427
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Turtwig wrote: »
    The economy would be fcked until you bought covid under control. Only option I can see in a long term no vax scenario would be get covid low, suppress and isolate the fck out of it. Then don't let it come back. That way people don't have to contend to with rolling lockdowns that cripple everything including the economy.

    We’ll have to agree to disagree, but considering human nature in the event of a vaccine being years away(thankfully it’s here) the needs of the majority would outweigh the minority and as always being the case the greater good would come to the fore. Although it’s a hypothetical as we are not in a no vaccine situation.


  • #4428
    IrishStuff09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭IrishStuff09


    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021


  • #4429
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    YIKES


  • #4430
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    octsol wrote: »
    Swabs released

    Think I'll remove the button altogether.


  • #4431
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,343 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod:

    Can we please direct discussion on schools to the appropriate thread. Cards and bans will have to follow if this instruction - which I already issued yesterday - cannot be followed.

    There is no point in having a dedicated schools thread if the discussion is going to bleed over into this one.

    Thanks.

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



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  • #4432
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    IrishStuff09 wrote: »
    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021

    What does that make if we include the backlog?


  • #4433
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I wonder will they will release to the public today?

    Our numbers are on par the grim numbers coming out of the UK, in fact, they are worse.

    ---

    5573 cases today and a backlog of around 4000.

    Grim


  • #4434
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    IrishStuff09 wrote: »
    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021

    I would guess now they are missing 2 cases for every one they are finding. That adds up to 100,000 cases in a week. 2% of the population in a week. Could not have imagined it would get this bad so quickly. My only positive thought here is that's it's likely to start falling very soon, it will simply be running out of people to infect in the relevant chains of transmission.


  • #4435
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    IrishStuff09 wrote: »
    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021

    Christ. Wonder how much is backlog?


  • #4436
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    IrishStuff09 wrote: »
    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021

    Holy crap


  • #4437
    messin doorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭messin doorman


    IrishStuff09 wrote: »
    5573 positive swabs, 20.74% positivity on 26,866 swabs.

    - Friday, January 1st 2021

    Are these the usual 530pm cases for today or are they some other figure? If the latter where can I see them please?


  • #4438
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    What does that make if we include the backlog?

    Nolan estimated the backlog at 4k yesterday so 9.5k.


  • #4439
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Christ. Wonder how much is backlog?

    None. The backlog is verified cases, I.e swabs that have not been confirmed as unique cases iirc


  • #4440
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Nolan estimated the backlog at 4k yesterday so 9.5k.

    Jebus if we ever had a daily figure like that the internet would explode.


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  • #4441
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    ECCE pre school program cancelled til the 11th Jan, private creches still told they can open


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