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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #3302
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    And it's because people don't use their common sense that they should ban alcohol. But sure I'm away with the fairies for even suggesting it. Stupid idea along with zero covid.

    Fully agree with you Zero Covid is a stupid idea and the reasoning for describing it as such has been explained over multiple threads.


  • #3303
    oldtimeyfella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    lookup what HCP meant.


    I'd never seen Healthcare Professional abbreviated before and as i said in the other thread, not every frontline worker is in healthcare and i certainly never claimed to be.


  • #3304
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    UK nearing 1 million people vaccinated. Put politics to one side and look and compare objectively. Clearly impossible for lots of people.

    How many have we vaccinated?

    https://twitter.com/ganeshran/status/1344587564896952320?s=20

    The gap is only going to widen at an increasing rate as long as they have Oxford approved and we don't


  • #3305
    stateofflux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    And it's because people don't use their common sense that they should ban alcohol. But sure I'm away with the fairies for even suggesting it. Stupid idea along with zero covid.

    I was a bit out of line with that comment, apologies.

    I would agree with you but for the madness happening up north, a ban here would likely trigger an Exodus for slabs cross border. And all the consequences associated with it.


  • #3306
    firemansam4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    UK nearing 1 million people vaccinated. Put politics to one side and look and compare objectively. Clearly impossible for lots of people.

    How many have we vaccinated?

    https://twitter.com/ganeshran/status/1344587564896952320?s=20

    We already have a sceptical portion of the population about this vaccine as it is.
    I'm glad we are relying on the EMA to do a thorough review of all the vaccine data rather than the UK rushing these through without the same scrutiny.

    We need people to have as much trust in this review process as possible.


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  • #3307
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    UK nearing 1 million people vaccinated. Put politics to one side and look and compare objectively. Clearly impossible for lots of people.

    How many have we vaccinated?

    https://twitter.com/ganeshran/status/1344587564896952320?s=20

    Sure we were planning to sit around for four days after receiving delivery of the pfizer vaccine...


  • #3308
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    AdamD wrote: »
    The gap is only going to widen at an increasing rate as long as they have Oxford approved and we don't

    Why can’t we let the regulatory body responsible do their job? The U.K. is not a beacon of sense.


  • #3309
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    firemansam4 wrote: »
    We already have a sceptical portion of the population about this vaccine as it is.
    I'm glad we are relying on the EMA to do a thorough review of all the vaccine data rather than the UK rushing these through without the same scrutiny.

    We need people to have as much trust in this review process as possible.

    Without the same scrutiny?

    What do you base that on?


  • #3310
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    firemansam4 wrote: »
    We already have a sceptical portion of the population about this vaccine as it is.
    I'm glad we are relying on the EMA to do a thorough review of all the vaccine data rather than the UK rushing these through without the same scrutiny.

    We need people to have as much trust in this review process as possible.


    Source?

    Rushing? Scrutiny?

    Why not wait another year or so to be really sure. Show them idiots in America and UK.

    Antivax people are going to be antivax. They read it on facebook must be true.


  • #3311
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Without the same scrutiny?

    What do you base that on?

    Because the U.K. is giving a lower level of approval than what the EU intends.


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  • #3312
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    oldtimeyfella wrote: »
    I'd never seen Healthcare Professional abbreviated before and as i said in the other thread, not every frontline worker is in healthcare and i certainly never claimed to be.

    I’m not one either but have encountered the abbreviation on threads such as this and in the media. Unless they are medical staff other frontline workers don’t get to witness COVID patients ‘drown’ . You claimed to have witnessed this. Anyway enjoy your down time.


  • #3313
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Calls for banning alcohol are fanatical, and supporters of prohibitionism are riding a wave of media-induced terror.


  • #3314
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    So are we allowed travel for non essential retail but not to exercise
    I dislike this term "non-essential" retail. It's very essential to the people who will lose their jobs and businesses when it closes. If some "non essential" retail can stay alive and keep people employed by adopting click and collect or Internet shopping, it makes sense for us to accept the small increased risk of staff travelling to these workplaces. We need to have an economy when this ends.


  • #3315
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Because the U.K. is giving a lower level of approval than what the EU intends.

    Can you link to this lower approval level. Up until Brexit the EMA was located in the UK so I can’t see the UK authorities suddenly going with a lower threshold. Even Dr Fauci respects the UK regulatory process.


  • #3316
    oldtimeyfella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    IUnless they are medical staff other frontline workers don’t get to witness COVID patients ‘drown’ . You claimed to have witnessed this.


    Well that's an outright lie. I never claimed that at all.


    Care to point me to the post that i said that in?


  • #3317
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    So are we allowed travel for non essential retail but not to exercise

    I think one can travel for collection within 5kms.
    Retail outlets that operate online can open to provide goods for collection.

    The Level 5 restrictions include a ban on all household visits, the closure of non-essential retail and a 5km limit on travel.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1230/1187030-what-is-essential-retail/


  • #3318
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    oldtimeyfella wrote: »
    Well that's an outright lie. I never claimed that at all.


    Care to point me to the post that i said that in?

    On the other thread. I ‘m not dragging comments from there into here.


  • #3319
    oldtimeyfella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    On the other thread. I ‘m not dragging comments from there into here.


    Nah, you're not getting off that easy. I'm not standing for this ****.



    Show me the comment where i said what you are alleging i said.


  • #3320
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just got the vaccine this morning. Hopefully the roll out will continue to increase speed!


  • #3321
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can you link to this lower approval level. Up until Brexit the EMA was located in the UK so I can’t see the UK authorities suddenly going with a lower threshold. Even Dr Fauci respects the UK regulatory process.

    Its nothing to do with brexit.

    The MHRA approval is a temporary authorisation of supply, each batch needs to be approved individually.

    EMA is conditional marketing authorisation, a step up on the MHRA approval. Therefore more information is needed on manufacturing and quality of manufacturing

    https://twitter.com/EMA_News/status/1344328548543291394?s=19


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  • #3322
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    oldtimeyfella wrote: »
    Nah, you're not getting off that easy. I'm not standing for this ****.



    Show me the comment where i said what you are alleging i said.

    Answered you already. Stand don’t stand , I don’t care.


  • #3323
    Marty1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Marty1983


    growleaves wrote: »
    Calls for banning alcohol are fanatical, and supporters of prohibitionism are riding a wave of media-induced terror.


    Agreed, I was in Western Australia last March when things kicked off - the Government there limited alcohol to either two bottles of wine per day, a case of beer or a bottle of spirits!!!


  • #3324
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    hmmm wrote: »
    I dislike this term "non-essential" retail. It's very essential to the people who will lose their jobs and businesses when it closes. If some "non essential" retail can stay alive and keep people employed by adopting click and collect or Internet shopping, it makes sense for us to accept the small increased risk of staff travelling to these workplaces. We need to have an economy when this ends.

    Collection is allowed where customers can place order online. But rest of the businesses are in depths because of increase in numbers. Could have been avoided with some equilibrium.


  • #3325
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can you link to this lower approval level. Up until Brexit the EMA was located in the UK so I can’t see the UK authorities suddenly going with a lower threshold. Even Dr Fauci respects the UK regulatory process.

    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/QANDA_20_2390

    If you scroll down to this question you might find it interezting

    What are the main differences between the EU's Conditional Marketing Authorisation and the Emergency Use Authorisation issued by some other countries?


  • #3326
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    I think the blame game is getting a bit tiresome to be fair. It is a highly transmissible virus it is going to spread. People are doing their best and all of us have slipped up at some stage be that in small or big ways. And I include those of us who are following restrictions in that. Everyone of us at some stage has done something which has had the potential to help this virus spread - be that giving an elderly relative a hug, standing slightly too close in a queue , staying in a restaurant even though it’s a bit busy and not strictly 2m between tables etc etc. We can argue oh that’s not as bad as ..... But at the end of the day we all need to mind ourselves and show a little kindness / empathy - people are struggling with this in many many different ways for lots of different reasons or else peoples stress levels , anxiety and frustration will be through the roof.


  • #3327
    oldtimeyfella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Answered you already. Stand don’t stand , I don’t care.


    You didn't answer me.



    Show me the post where i made the claim that you are alledging. I've already reported you to the mods but i won't have my reputation dragged through the mud by the likes of you.


  • #3328
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Marty1983 wrote: »
    Agreed, I was in Western Australia last March when things kicked off - the Government there limited alcohol to either two bottles of wine per day, a case of beer or a bottle of spirits!!!

    That's reasonable indeed.


  • #3329
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    oldtimeyfella wrote: »
    You didn't answer me.



    Show me the post where i made the claim that you are alledging. I've already reported you to the mods but i won't have my reputation dragged through the mud by the likes of you.

    Do what you need to do . I have already told you I won’t be dragging comments here from another thread.


  • #3330
    firemansam4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can you link to this lower approval level. Up until Brexit the EMA was located in the UK so I can’t see the UK authorities suddenly going with a lower threshold. Even Dr Fauci respects the UK regulatory process.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1202/1181886-coronavirus-vaccine-eu/

    OK this is based on what the EMA have said but even now with the Oxford vaccine it looks like the FDA may even delay approval for several months on this, quite a bit of data seems to be missing or incomplete yet the UK have now approved it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/business/covid-vaccine-oxford-astrazeneca.html


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  • #3331
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    firemansam4 wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1202/1181886-coronavirus-vaccine-eu/

    OK this is based on what the EMA have said but even now with the Oxford vaccine it looks like the FDA may even delay approval for several months on this, quite a bit of data seems to be missing or incomplete yet the UK have now approved it.

    Seems strange that the UK would act so quickly in the absence of full data. I thought they had a robust regulation system.


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