Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

John O.Groats · 30-12-2020 05:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you anything to support this hypothesis or are you simply making things up as you go along? My money is on the latter.

I believe that you yourself have posted the same thing previously. Even if I`m mistaken and you haven`t then you need to open your eyes and see what is happening around you.

Dickie10 · 30-12-2020 07:39PM

i think i posted this before the VFI know themselves its Mid May, after May bank holiday. Goverrnment are confident of most vulnerable all vaccinated by end of april, tbh i think they will be. I would imagine should be all go for august bank holiday weekend. Euro 2021 games are going to be a problem, can see all other venues having full stadia and presssure on dublin to do the same.

stephenjmcd · 30-12-2020 07:42PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

i think i posted this before the VFI know themselves its Mid May, after May bank holiday. Goverrnment are confident of most vulnerable all vaccinated by end of april, tbh i think they will be. I would imagine should be all go for august bank holiday weekend. Euro 2021 games are going to be a problem, can see all other venues having full stadia and presssure on dublin to do the same.

The VFI or the LVA have absolutely no idea when they'll reopen and I doubt government do either.

Nothing gets predicted for reopenings months in advance.

hynesie08 · 30-12-2020 07:53PM

If we've learned nothing else in 2020,the vfi are so useless they probably can't even spell vfi.

The shower of spineless, toothless pricks have been pissed on from a great height from the government since this kicked off. The idea they're in cahoots is laughable.

Dickie10 · 30-12-2020 08:08PM

id take mid may now

PTH2009 · 30-12-2020 08:11PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

i think i posted this before the VFI know themselves its Mid May, after May bank holiday. Goverrnment are confident of most vulnerable all vaccinated by end of april, tbh i think they will be. I would imagine should be all go for august bank holiday weekend. Euro 2021 games are going to be a problem, can see all other venues having full stadia and presssure on dublin to do the same.

If that's the case then the FAI might as well drop out from hosting

Ted_YNWA · 30-12-2020 08:20PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

If we've learned nothing else in 2020,the vfi are so useless they probably can't even spell vfi.

The shower of spineless, toothless pricks have been pissed on from a great height from the government since this kicked off. The idea they're in cahoots is laughable.

Mod

I get the sentiment. Tone down the aggression if you want to continue posting here.

GazzaL · 30-12-2020 08:21PM

They'll be open again in 2030.

John O.Groats · 30-12-2020 08:34PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The VFI or the LVA have absolutely no idea when they'll reopen and I doubt government do either.

Nothing gets predicted for reopenings months in advance.

So you think there is still a chance of pubs being reopened by St Patrick`s Day? Seriously?

kippy · 30-12-2020 08:37PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

So you think there is still a chance of pubs being reopened by St Patrick`s Day? Seriously?

There is, but it depends on a lot of factors, currently none of these factors suggest a St. Patricks day opening is possible but that could change.

Danno · 30-12-2020 08:39PM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Who gives a toss about pubs being open on paddys day so deco and anto can get smashed and start fights all over Dublin? This country has a serious problem with alcohol and its time it was tackled properly.

One post in this thread said its an assault on their social life not having pubs open, how sad and pathetic is that?

:rolleyes:

No, this country doesn't have a serious problem with alcohol. We have a serious problem with justice and sentencing.

Back in the day, Anto and Deco would have the seven shades of shyte kicked out of them if they got uppity in a pub or just outside of one either by a cop or the bar tender.
Now-a-days, the legal profession don't like competition - so they encourage scrotes to sue if the cop or a bar-tender breaks Antos or Decos fingernail.

xhomelezz · 30-12-2020 08:46PM

Danno wrote: »

:rolleyes:

No, this country doesn't have a serious problem with alcohol. We have a serious problem with justice and sentencing.

Back in the day, Anto and Deco would have the seven shades of shyte kicked out of them if they got uppity in a pub or just outside of one either by a cop or the bar tender.
Now-a-days, the legal profession don't like competition - so they encourage scrotes to sue if the cop or a bar-tender breaks Antos or Decos fingernail.

This country have a lot of serious problems, all of them getting highlighted in last couple months, question is if we'll learn a lesson. Probably not..

Scoondal · 30-12-2020 08:51PM

My local remained in darkness during Christmas. I totally support their "dark Christmas" of pubs. This was not reported on any Irish media. Why ?

stephenjmcd · 30-12-2020 08:53PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

So you think there is still a chance of pubs being reopened by St Patrick`s Day? Seriously?

I couldn't tell you but someone claiming that the VFI know its mid May, sure they haven't a clue and neither do government thats the point.

Not sure where you're getting me thinking there'll be a chance of a Paddy's day opening when the point being made is nobody has a clue.

Zebra3 · 30-12-2020 09:00PM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Who gives a toss about pubs being open on paddys day so deco and anto can get smashed and start fights all over Dublin?

Absolutely nobody.

But then you know that too.

But imagine people being concerned about jobs and about the possibility of socialising with their friends or family?

Imagine that!!!!

John O.Groats · 30-12-2020 09:06PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I couldn't tell you but someone claiming that the VFI know its mid May, sure they haven't a clue and neither do government thats the point.

Not sure where you're getting me thinking there'll be a chance of a Paddy's day opening when the point being made is nobody has a clue.

OK I misunderstood your post. Anyway the point is that as I already stated there is no chance whatsoever that pubs, either the wet or gastro types, will be reopened before Easter at the earliest.

GazzaL · 30-12-2020 09:07PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Absolutely nobody.

But then you know that too.

But imagine people being concerned about jobs and about the possibility of socialising with their friends or family?

Imagine that!!!!

Ah but Paddy is happy to sit at home alone or with the wife drinking a beer or a bottle of vino. He doesn't care about people who use a pub as a social outlet. The people who earn an honest living in the pub trade are of no concern to him. Paddy wonders why everyone isn't the same as him.

El_Duderino 09 · 30-12-2020 09:22PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

If we've learned nothing else in 2020,the vfi are so useless they probably can't even spell vfi.

The shower of spineless, toothless pricks have been pissed on from a great height from the government since this kicked off. The idea they're in cahoots is laughable.

What should they have done?

You’re the VFI and the government tells you that they don’t consider the pubs an essential business. They are high on the list of business to close and low on the list of business to reopen. What would you do better than the VFI?

El_Duderino 09 · 30-12-2020 09:28PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

So you think there is still a chance of pubs being reopened by St Patrick`s Day? Seriously?

Depends on whether covid is still around in March - it obviously will be around and the government obviouywont wncourage big groups to gather by mid March.

Unless there’s a huge change or the virus just dies, the pubs won’t be open in mid March.

MOH · 30-12-2020 09:55PM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Folks there is no point in talking to those people who want pubs kept open. They quite clearly have a drink problem and no amount of talking sense will make them change their minds about this.

I'm genuinely confused by the number of people on this thread who claim to believe that everyone who thinks it's ridiculous that pubs have been shuttered since March is an alcoholic.

For a start, if their only source of alcohol was pubs, then they would no longer be alcoholics, since they'd be 9 months into cold turkey by now.

On the other hand, if all they care about is alcohol and they've been drinking at home ever since, then presumably they've now adapted to and might even prefer the combination of cheaper alcohol and no restriction on hours when they can drink.

So since either alcoholics have adapted to their new life and no longer miss the pub, or pub-only alcoholics are no longer alcoholics, then it's clearly a logical impossibility for people supporting pubs to all be alcoholics.

However, there are now a lot more people drinking at home, or drinking a lot more at home than previously. Many of them living alone, and doing so without any company, in a time of great stress.

If you actually gave a damn about people with a drink problem you'd recognise that's a far more dangerous scenario and likely to lead to a lot more issues than social interactions with other people.

But I suspect you really couldn't care less and just want a cheap insult with which to label people who disagree with you. Bravo.

30-12-2020 10:03PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I don’t know Starbucks on Dame St. Is Starbucks on Dame St. typical of coffee shops, do you think?

So just to clarify, you’re seriously suggesting that people spend time in coffee shops in the way they spend time in pubs?

It’s fine if that’s what you’re saying. It sums up the level of absurdity that’s necessary to make your points.

Any reasonable person will know that people do not tend to spend time in coffee shops they way they spend time in pubs. It’s common for people to spend 5-6 hours in the pub in a day. I’d often leave work at 5 on a Fridays and go for pints until closing time. That’s common. Spending 5-6 hours in a coffee shop doesn’t happen on anything like the scale it does in pubs.

People commonly go to pubs to watch a 90 minute match and stay on afterwards. Very few people would do that in a coffee shop.

But that’s not the interesting point. The interesting pint is how far you have to stray from reality to make your point that pubs and cafes are similar re covid. You can’t have felt good about yourself when you were seriously suggesting people generally spend the same or similar time in cafes and pubs. People are so willing to sacrifice their integrity when discussing this topic. Genuinely fascinating to watch.

All I was saying was that some people can spend just as long in a coffee shop as a pub. That's all.

I don't understand what you mean by "can't have felt good about yourself". Can you please explain that to me?

30-12-2020 10:11PM

Drop of wine anyone? I have coffee cups.

:pac:

PTH2009 · 30-12-2020 10:14PM

Know a few people who don't drink at home and have desire to do so (my dad been one) and its there choice at the end of the day. He had no interest going out and buying a meal for a few bottles

I'm used to drinking at home from my student days and obv i had no other choice for large parts of this year and looking very likely for a lot of 2021 too

El_Duderino 09 · 30-12-2020 10:22PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

All I was saying was that some people can spend just as long in a coffee shop as a pub. That's all.

I don't understand what you mean by "can't have felt good about yourself". Can you please explain that to me?

I asked you if you think people generally spend time in coffee shops the way they generally spend time in pubs. Anybody knows the answer or that question is “no, people don’t generally spend as much time in coffee shops as pubs”.

But instead, you suggested that people do, in fact, generally spend similar time in both. You must have known it wasn’t true when you said it, but you said it anyway. And it can’t feel good to sacrifice your honesty to make such a untrue, irrelevant point.

speckle · 30-12-2020 10:39PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Drop of wine anyone? I have coffee cups.

:pac:

I'll have a spirit tea and my favorite biscuit seeing this Xmas I dont have to fight the others for it

30-12-2020 10:40PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I asked you if you think people generally spend time in coffee shops the way they generally spend time in pubs. Anybody knows the answer or that question is “no, people don’t generally spend as much time in coffee shops as pubs”.

But instead, you suggested that people do, in fact, generally spend similar time in both. You must have known it wasn’t true when you said it, but you said it anyway. And it can’t feel good to sacrifice your honesty to make such a untrue, irrelevant point.

I told you what I believe. There is no need for you to make a personal slight against my integrity.

30-12-2020 10:41PM

I've posted on and off on this thread over the last month or so - but I'm out now. I wish an early happy new year to you all as I unfollow.

speckle · 30-12-2020 10:44PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I asked you if you think people generally spend time in coffee shops the way they generally spend time in pubs. Anybody knows the answer or that question is “no, people don’t generally spend as much time in coffee shops as pubs”.

But instead, you suggested that people do, in fact, generally spend similar time in both. You must have known it wasn’t true when you said it, but you said it anyway. And it can’t feel good to sacrifice your honesty to make such a untrue, irrelevant point.

Aren't students known for their extended spent cafe time? And I go to the pub and dont drink alcohol like others I know.
Also some people go out one night to the pub and then some spend an hour a day in a coffee shop..so the hours even out.

And in rural Ireland many use the pub to meet up. There may be no cafe.

Drifter50 · 30-12-2020 10:53PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

There’s absolutely no restriction on buying alcohol outside pubs. There have been plenty of calls for closing off-license alcohol sales and government hasn’t even entertained the idea.

But I think a lot of people calling for off-license closures were people doing it out of spite rather than out of anything serious. The vintners certainly publicly suggested there should be a ban on alcohol sales (if pubs can’t open).

There is regulation of alcohol sales and that’s government’s job. But the notion that there’s a puritan trend towards banning alcohol, is conspiracy theory stuff- akin to 5G or anti-vaccine, it makes me think the person saying it is probably not very bright.

I`m not sure why you continually choose to attack posters on this thread as to their views. This is a debating thread, if you don`t like the opposing viewpoint then so be it but I trust you are not insulting my intelligence in your comment above. Calling out someone by suggesting they are not very bright is not necessary. Just leave it and move on

cityboyjim · 30-12-2020 10:56PM

New Years Eve Rural Ireland .Local Bar .11-45 .Place mad .Home from Canada .Could you think of a better place to be with your family .

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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