Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

PTH2009

mightyreds wrote: »

Shut the pubs was the cry at the start.
See people are still drinking - shut down takeaway pints.
See people are still drinking - shut the off licenses.
See people still drinking - shut the border they're getting it up north.
See people still drinking - round up all the beer and burn it.

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El_Duderino 09

hynesie08 wrote: »

So instead of drinking takeaway pints, they drink cans........ Genius.

People can drink cans any time they want. Is drinking cans a covid risk? What’s your point?

hynesie08

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

People can drink cans any tile they want. Is drinking cans a covid risk? What’s your point?

Is drinking takeaway pints a covid risk??

xhomelezz

hynesie08 wrote: »

Is drinking takeaway pints a covid risk??

When you pack the streets I guess it is..

El_Duderino 09

hynesie08 wrote: »

Is drinking takeaway pints a covid risk??

Drinking the pints? No. Standing around in big groups getting drunk without social distancing is a risk.

It’s just an outdoor house party. But drinking the pints isn’t a risk.

What was your point?

hynesie08

xhomelezz wrote: »

When you pack the streets I guess it is..

So then maybe the issue isn't the vessel within which the beverage is contained.......

hynesie08

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Drinking the pints? No. Standing around in big groups getting drunk without social distancing is a risk.

It’s just an outdoor house party. But drinking the pints isn’t a risk.

What was your point?

That banning takeaway pints is a completely useless procedure while you allow people to gather in groups outside.

ginoginelli

hynesie08 wrote: »

That banning takeaway pints is a completely useless procedure while you allow people to gather in groups outside.

I wouldnt say useless. Alcohol lowers inhibitions and their ability to make rational decisions. A drunk mob is far more dangerous than a sober one.

But good point on giving gardai power to break up groups. They were offered similar powers in summer and refused to take them - a huge mistake.

Cited lack of powers to enforce and lack of enforcment in general by the gardai has been a huge frustrating roundabout for many throughout this pandemic.

hynesie08

ginoginelli wrote: »

I wouldnt say useless. Alcohol lowers inhibitions and their ability to make rational decisions. A drunk mob is far more dangerous than a sober one.

But good point on giving gardai power to break up groups. They were offered similar powers in summer and refused to take them - a huge mistake.

Cited lack of powers to enforce and lack of enforcment in general by the gardai has been a huge frustrating roundabout for many throughout this pandemic.

Yes, I understand all that, but what would be the point in banning 1 particular type of serving vessel? People aren't standing around in 3 degree weather because of the quality of a fresh poured pint.

If they're going out to meet friends, they'll continue to do that, just with coffee or cans, and as long as they're allowed do it they will.

If the gardai spent the first weekend of this pouring every open container down the drain, you'd have eradicated the problem.

MadYaker

hynesie08 wrote: »

That banning takeaway pints is a completely useless procedure while you allow people to gather in groups outside.

What reason would people have to gather on the streets if takeaway pints weren’t allowed?

weldoninhio

MadYaker wrote: »

What reason would people have to gather on the streets if takeaway pints weren’t allowed?

Big bag of cans.

hynesie08

MadYaker wrote: »

What reason would people have to gather on the streets if takeaway pints weren’t allowed?

People are drinking because they have to meet their friends outside, they're not meeting their friends outside because the pints of heino from pyg are to die for........

So you either ban all off sales, you break up groups standing around or you enforce the bye laws. You're either forcing the issue indoors or your changing how people drink outdoors.

RocketRaccoon

Folks there is no point in talking to those people who want pubs kept open. They quite clearly have a drink problem and no amount of talking sense will make them change their minds about this.

hynesie08

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Folks there is no point in talking to those people who want pubs kept open. They quite clearly have a drink problem and no amount of talking sense will make them change their minds about this.

Pubs have been closed for a week and we're not talking about them right now. Have you been drinking??

RocketRaccoon

hynesie08 wrote: »

Pubs have been closed for a week and we're not talking about them right now. Have you been drinking??

No, I have restraint. I can see that drinking on the streets or in a pub is a horrific idea at the moment.

Poorside

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

No, I have restraint. I can see that drinking on the streets or in a pub is a horrific idea at the moment.

The second option is impossible right now so you're grand there.

PTH2009

Whats so frustrating is were basically been told 'right lads no chance of any sort of pub been open for Paddys day'

Imagine getting a bit of incentive and saying 'right lads if we get over the line for this lockdown then it might be enough to get pubs open in March"

Remember the teacher like threats over the summer because of a few people drinking on the streets. Pathetic

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

Whats so frustrating is were basically been told 'right lads no chance of any sort of pub been open for Paddys day'

Imagine getting a bit of incentive and saying 'right lads if we get over the line for this lockdown then it might be enough to get pubs open in March"

Remember the teacher like threats over the summer because of a few people drinking on the streets. Pathetic

Never mind your health or getting back to work, let's suppress the virus so we can get **** faced on an arbitrary day in March.

My position on opening pubs has never changed, but if yours was the prevailing attitude, I'd gladly never see one open again.

El_Duderino 09

hynesie08 wrote: »

So then maybe the issue isn't the vessel within which the beverage is contained.......

Who suggested it was the vessel?

El_Duderino 09

hynesie08 wrote: »

That banning takeaway pints is a completely useless procedure while you allow people to gather in groups outside.

Yeah I agree. Is gathering in groups allowed at the moment?

hynesie08

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Who suggested it was the vessel?

He's not saying alcohol or cans, the post I replied to specifically mentioned takeaway pints.

Irish Steve wrote: »

I just hope that later today, even the gasto pubs get told in no uncertain manner that take away pints are off the menu for the forseeable future, we really don't need the crowds in the streets with the health implications of an uncontrolled venue with no facilities whatsover.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah I agree. Is gathering in groups allowed at the moment?

Allowed no, enforced, also no.

SteM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Whats so frustrating is were basically been told 'right lads no chance of any sort of pub been open for Paddys day'

Imagine getting a bit of incentive and saying 'right lads if we get over the line for this lockdown then it might be enough to get pubs open in March"

Do we really need to be treated like children, to be given a incentive like that? That's pathetic, to treat a nation like a child at the dinner table - you can have your desert if you clear your plate.

And then if the pubs didn't open in March you'd be the first on here moaning that you didn't get what was promised.

RocketRaccoon

PTH2009 wrote: »

Whats so frustrating is were basically been told 'right lads no chance of any sort of pub been open for Paddys day'

Imagine getting a bit of incentive and saying 'right lads if we get over the line for this lockdown then it might be enough to get pubs open in March"

Remember the teacher like threats over the summer because of a few people drinking on the streets. Pathetic

Who gives a toss about pubs being open on paddys day so deco and anto can get smashed and start fights all over Dublin? This country has a serious problem with alcohol and its time it was tackled properly.

One post in this thread said its an assault on their social life not having pubs open, how sad and pathetic is that?

PTH2009

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Who gives a toss about pubs being open on paddys day so deco and anto can get smashed and start fights all over Dublin? This country has a serious problem with alcohol and its time it was tackled properly.

One post in this thread said its an assault on their social life not having pubs open, how sad and pathetic is that?

What was sad and pathetic was this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/we-are-worried-taoiseach-warn-plans-to-reopen-all-pubs-on-july-20th-may-be-delayed-1.4297327%3fmode=amp

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

What was sad and pathetic was this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/we-are-worried-taoiseach-warn-plans-to-reopen-all-pubs-on-july-20th-may-be-delayed-1.4297327%3fmode=amp

I agree, it's sad and pathetic that a small minority keep ****ing it up for the vast majority who can go out and enjoy a few scoops without acting like gob****es, but alas, our money is all the same colour so they have to be included in the plans.

RocketRaccoon

PTH2009 wrote: »

What was sad and pathetic was this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/we-are-worried-taoiseach-warn-plans-to-reopen-all-pubs-on-july-20th-may-be-delayed-1.4297327%3fmode=amp

I completely agree, utterly pathetic that people couldn't stick to the rules and ensure the pubs were allowed to stay open. Reap what you sow comes to mind.

PTH2009

hynesie08 wrote: »

I agree, it's sad and pathetic that a small minority keep ****ing it up for the vast majority who can go out and enjoy a few scoops without acting like gob****es, but alas, our money is all the same colour so they have to be included in the plans.

I agree it is the small minority who run it for everyone but that minority will never learn and will always be the rebels

John O.Groats

PTH2009 wrote: »

I agree it is the small minority who run it for everyone but that minority will never learn and will always be the rebels

Bottom line is that pubs will not be reopening before Easter at the very earliest and most likely later that that. You should learn to accept that.

John O.Groats

John O.Groats wrote: »

Bottom line is that pubs will not be reopening before Easter at the very earliest

Have you anything to support this hypothesis or are you simply making things up as you go along? My money is on the latter.

RocketRaccoon

PTH2009 wrote: »

I agree it is the small minority who run it for everyone but that minority will never learn and will always be the rebels

And they're the ones shouting the loudest about all of this.