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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1802
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Ah sure it gives you another reason to blame the government rather than others not having an iota of common sense.

    I dont get this reponse-

    the government could simply say, Do not attend the workplace.

    They don't and leave it up to the manager to decide.


  • #1803
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    This is how stupid people are.

    A guy from near me died of COVID-19 very recently. Very popular guy from a popular family so his funeral was big, many multiples of what is currently allowed.

    Among these was a guy who was awaiting the results of a COVID-19 test.

    He was hugging people at the funeral.

    Many of the mourners went back to a pub as is the custom around here.

    The guy awaiting the test results went too.

    We now have a decent sized COVID-19 outbreak in the town.

    Give it two weeks more and we'll see the full effects of this stupidity.


  • #1804
    Jim Gazebo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    hmmm wrote: »
    Going for a walk in a forest with a hundred people is not the same risk as going into a pub or a restaurant.

    Show me one example of a superspreading event outdoors, anywhere in the world? I know of only a single proven case of infection outdoors, and I've read a lot of formal papers. We've blocked people from hiking/the beach, and where else are people going to go other than mix with neighbours or do things indoors instead?

    We've had too much focus on theatre like hand sanitisers and sitting 2 metres apart, and nowhere near enough attention on the effects of ventilation.

    They've attempted to block hiking :) it's crazy. Allow people to do the safe activities at the very least.


  • #1805
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,044 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    I dont get this reponse-

    the government could simply say, Do not attend the workplace.

    They don't and leave it up to the manager to decide.

    They do, for everyone except those who are essential workers.


  • #1806
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    A manager of an essential worker can at the moment force them to attend the workplace whilst their other half has symptoms and is having a COVID test.

    What is so unpalatable with stating this fact?

    The government allows this to happen.


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  • #1807
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    I dont get this reponse-

    the government could simply say, Do not attend the workplace.

    They don't and leave it up to the manager to decide.

    Are you an essential worker?


  • #1808
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    awec wrote: »
    They do, for everyone except those who are essential workers.

    It's quite easy for an employer to arrange an empty room in an office for an employee to attend.


  • #1809
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    I dont get this reponse-

    the government could simply say, Do not attend the workplace.

    They don't and leave it up to the manager to decide.

    We had a meeting about this in work and went one further than the Government and put in place a policy that someone isn't allowed to attend work if their partner or someone else they live with has COVID-19 or is awaiting a test or test results.

    We are classed as essential workers.


  • #1810
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Are you gonna bring the whisky?

    It’s not Scotland


  • #1811
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html

    From that "When you should restrict your movements
    Restrict your movements for 14 days if you: live with someone who has symptoms of COVID-19, but you feel well"

    If someone is waiting on a test or waiting on a test result they are presumed to have Covid until given the all clear so if you are sharing a bed with them self isolate.

    It's common sense. I agree the advice needs to be clearer.


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  • #1812
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    It's quite easy for an employer to arrange an empty room in an office for an employee to attend.

    Not everyone works in an office. The vast majority of people don't work in offices.

    Also, have you spare toilets, a spare canteen, spare everything else etc.

    Also, if someone potentially has COVID-19 and the employer knows and requires them to come to work, and I catch COVID-19 off them, I'm suing my employer.


  • #1813
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    A manager of an essential worker can at the moment force them to attend the workplace whilst their other half has symptoms and is having a COVID test.

    What is so unpalatable with stating this fact?

    The government allows this to happen.

    What employer in their right mind would want to bring a potentially infected person in to the workplace. Can't see it happening in reality.


  • #1814
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    This is how stupid people are.

    A guy from near me died of COVID-19 very recently. Very popular guy from a popular family so his funeral was big, many multiples of what is currently allowed.

    Among these was a guy who was awaiting the results of a COVID-19 test.

    He was hugging people at the funeral.

    Many of the mourners went back to a pub as is the custom around here.

    The guy awaiting the test results went too.

    We now have a decent sized COVID-19 outbreak in the town.

    Give it two weeks more and we'll see the full effects of this stupidity.

    That’s really terrible. You’ll probably see the same people wanting to go down the pub again if there’s another wake. Some people just don’t get it.


  • #1815
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭jackboy


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    We had a meeting about this in work and went one further than the Government and put in place a policy that someone isn't allowed to attend work if their partner or someone else they live with has COVID-19 or is awaiting a test or test results.

    We are classed as essential workers.

    They need to leave the door open if the pandemic really got out of hand and the hospitals were over run. In that case nurses and doctors with no symptoms would have to attend work regardless of the situation at home.


  • #1816
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Mimon wrote: »
    From that "When you should restrict your movements
    Restrict your movements for 14 days if you: live with someone who has symptoms of COVID-19, but you feel well"

    If someone is waiting on a test or waiting on a test result they are presumed to have Covid until given the all clear so if you are sharing a bed with them self isolate.

    It's common sense. I agree the advice needs to be clearer.

    Did you not read further down the page?

    It states explicitly 'Do not go to work, unless you work on your own and can completely avoid other people. If you are an essential worker and do not have any symptoms, talk to your employer.'

    A clause that enables any manager in this country prepare an 1 person office in the workplace for a person whose other half is being tested for COVID

    And of course this will be exploited by the majority


  • #1817
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    It's quite easy for an employer to arrange an empty room in an office for an employee to attend.

    Not everyone works at a desk in an office.


  • #1818
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    That’s really terrible. You’ll probably see the same people wanting to go down the pub again if there’s another wake. Some people just don’t get it.

    In this case Darwinism at work.


  • #1819
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,044 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Did you not read further down the page?

    It states explicitly 'Do not go to work, unless you work on your own and can completely avoid other people. If you are an essential worker and do not have any symptoms, talk to your employer.'

    A clause that enables any manager in this country prepare an 1 person office in the workplace for a person whose other half is being tested for COVID

    And of course this will be exploited by the majority

    An essential worker is someone deemed essential by the state, e.g. bin men, Gardai etc.

    It is not someone deemed essential by some random employer.


  • #1820
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,032 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    This is how stupid people are.

    A guy from near me died of COVID-19 very recently. Very popular guy from a popular family so his funeral was big, many multiples of what is currently allowed.

    Among these was a guy who was awaiting the results of a COVID-19 test.

    He was hugging people at the funeral.

    Many of the mourners went back to a pub as is the custom around here.

    The guy awaiting the test results went too.

    We now have a decent sized COVID-19 outbreak in the town.

    Give it two weeks more and we'll see the full effects of this stupidity.

    Thats exactly what happened in Wexford.


  • #1821
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    BobbyMalone wrote: »
    He's looking for where it explicitly states it so he can say that to his boss. Some bosses can be pricks about putting pressure on people to attend work.

    We had clear rules from the first few weeks, if someone in the household is being tested you dont come in until negative test, clean sheet with no cases out of 140


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  • #1822
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Go hard or go home! That’s my take now! Full month of January closed! Everything except food and fuel retail! No travel outside your town unless essential worker or for health reasons and food/fuel
    I’m one of those who’s usually against level 5 but at this stage with the vaccines rolling out, best way to get this off to a good start is to stop and head for and I hate the term zero COVID!!


    You really don't have a clue. Coldest months of the year, and nowhere to get replacement parts for a heating system, or any of the other things that are essential to keeping a house operating? I'm not talking about paint or furniture, but critical plumbing and electrical parts to ensure that things keep working.

    What does a family of 5 with 3 of them young children do if their washing machine breaks?

    How about parts and tyres for vehicles to keep essential workers on the road to their place of employment?

    How about things like safety equipment for people that need it to work?

    There's plenty of other examples that could be given that make it critical to keep a lot more than just food fuel and banking operating, unless you want to end up with people dying as a result of making it impossible for them to get essential repairs carried out.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #1823
    [Deleted User]
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    growleaves wrote: »
    The numbers went down at the start of summer (May) and went up again at the start of winter (October).

    Sorry but did no one ever read that Tintin book where he convinces a primitive tribe he's a god by taking credit for an eclipse? Or do you know what a cargo cult is?

    This is why scientific proofs usually depend on repeated empirical testing.

    Must be springtime in Belgium given cases have fallen 90% since the end of October


  • #1824
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    I dont get this reponse-

    the government could simply say, Do not attend the workplace.

    They don't and leave it up to the manager to decide.

    Agree, ambiguity causes confusion and the opportunity to abdicate accountability if the **** hits the fan.


  • #1825
    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    304 days since the first case in Ireland and people don't know whether they should go to work if the person they (presumably) share a bed with is suspected of having Covid...

    Climb down off that high horse. There's not enough info in the post to make a call - it depends on the circumstances. If his wife is getting a test as a close contact of a confirmed case, he does not need to restrict his movements, unless and until the test result is positive.


  • #1826
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I'm going to crawl back into my cave soon, sorry my replenished cellar lol. Can't wait, it's dark in there and I just listen to music to blank out the noise of hysteria out there and tales of reprobrates going down to B+Q to buy a washer for the dripping tap, or Auntie Mary buying her feckin handbag.

    I think I need a drink. Well it is Twixmas FGS.

    All the best to those who are ill with this bastard of a virus, or awaiting results. Feck sake.


  • #1827
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqbpwJjXYAEqitG?format=jpg&name=small

    My daughter got sent that earlier from a friend working in the royal free hospital in London. It's 15 ambulances with suspected Covid cases waiting to be admitted. She say's London is in trouble and looking at the numbers she is right.

    14,875 new cases which is more than Italy, Spain and Germany. Looking at the borough breakdown, East and North London look particularly bad.

    They are exhausted and she say's everyone is terrified for the coming weeks. I think her mental health is suffering also due to the long hours and stress. :(


  • #1828
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/in-photos-frontline-healthcare-workers-react-to-their-covid-19-jab-1056899.html

    A lot of women appear to have been first to get the vaccine. Any blokes? #equality :)


  • #1829
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqbpwJjXYAEqitG?format=jpg&name=small

    My daughter got sent that earlier from a friend working in the royal free hospital in London. It's 15 ambulances with suspected Covid cases waiting to be admitted. She say's London is in trouble and looking at the numbers she is right.

    14,875 new cases which is more than Italy, Spain and Germany. Looking at the borough breakdown, East and North London look particularly bad.

    They are exhausted and she say's everyone is terrified for the coming weeks. I think her mental health is suffering also due to the long hours and stress. :(

    They're in an awful way. There are hospitals with real concerns about oxygen levels for even their non icu patients.

    I've no idea of our own capacity in that regard. I'd hazard a guess it's not great.


  • #1830
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqbpwJjXYAEqitG?format=jpg&name=small

    My daughter got sent that earlier from a friend working in the royal free hospital in London. It's 15 ambulances with suspected Covid cases waiting to be admitted. She say's London is in trouble and looking at the numbers she is right.

    14,875 new cases which is more than Italy, Spain and Germany. Looking at the borough breakdown, East and North London look particularly bad.

    They are exhausted and she say's everyone is terrified for the coming weeks. I think her mental health is suffering also due to the long hours and stress. :(

    Yes, looks like they're at tipping point and overwhelmed

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55475240


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  • #1831
    aziz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭aziz


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/in-photos-frontline-healthcare-workers-react-to-their-covid-19-jab-1056899.html

    A lot of women appear to have been first to get the vaccine. Any blokes? #equality :)

    No, we’re just being chivalrous

    “Ladies first,I insist “😷


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