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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1772
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    wadacrack wrote: »
    If this vaccine proves to be provide long lasting immunity it can be eradicated. Israel will be a country to follow. If it goes well it will give hope to every country

    I am not sure, but I don't think I have heard that any prospective vaccine provides immunity for the recipient YET!

    Apparently it reduces the effect of the virus to a minimum which is good, but unless immunity is conferred at some point, I reckon masks and two metres are with us for a while as long as the recipient can transmit it, but won't suffer badly themselves.

    The Holy Grail of a Covid vaccine is not the same as the one for MMR etc.


  • #1773
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    KaneToad wrote: »
    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/self-isolation/how-to-self-isolate.html

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html

    Clearly what the government have written here shows that if an employer really wants you to work, they can make you come into work.

    Astonishing to me.
    Do not go to work, unless you work on your own and can completely avoid other people. If you are an essential worker and do not have any symptoms, talk to your employer.


  • #1774
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,612 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    political analyst wrote: »
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/government-defends-delay-of-irelands-covid-19-vaccine-roll-out-1056296.html



    Why would health professionals need to be trained differently in administering the coronavirus vaccine from the training they're given for administering a vaccine against any other virus?

    Furthermore, how is the informed consent process here any different from what it is for other vaccines?




    No training required. This was stated by MANY countries, same as flu jab. It's a cover up, we're just trying to save the measly 10k doses we got .


  • #1775
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,612 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    The 10k doses should have been gone on day 2. But we're trying to make them last a month or two. What a joke .


  • #1776
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    NYE rave anyone?

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/hosts-of-illegal-rave-organising-event-for-new-years-eve-on-social-media-1056894.html


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  • #1777
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    1500 cases.... and you think that is is ?? Come on....
    it's 10 fold or more.
    There is a clear refusal to close school, and to ban household mixing, and to close ALL non essential businesses. As soon as MeHole got in power we were doomed.

    It's not all about politicians, people are responsible. They don't act like adults, yes they are adults but they don't think of the greater good and that of the greater community.

    By mixing with other households and going to Xmas parties, office parties etc.. over Xmas those same people are contributing to the coming lockdown which will cost people their businesses and livelihoods and indeed their lives in the coming weeks.

    Honestly it would have been no different with Varadkar and i absolutely despise FF.


  • #1778
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    NYE rave anyone?

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/hosts-of-illegal-rave-organising-event-for-new-years-eve-on-social-media-1056894.html

    That is ridiculous


  • #1779
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Why are you allowed to rent short-stay accomodation on Airbnb at the moment, particularly entire apartments on NYE..


  • #1780
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    So, seasonality might be more the determinant on case numbers than social restrictions?
    It's an interesting idea.

    Cases were already on the way up again by the end of July, but from a much lower base, so took a bit longer to build up speed and numbers.

    I'm sure seasonality plays a part in helping or hindering the spread, but attributing that, as the poster seems to, to being the only important factor is complete nonsense.

    When human interaction and mixing increase the virus numbers increase, when they decrease it decreases. It's as simple as that.


  • #1781
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Stheno wrote: »
    That is ridiculous

    Just when you thought you saw the dumbest sh1t in your life. This.


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  • #1782
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    StevenToast wrote: »
    The last 2 weeks were crucial but now the next 2 weeks are even more crucial....I suspect the 2 weeks after that will also be crucial.....

    For a while, it was funny, then it became a joke.

    NOW, I REALLY would like to see ANYONE that used these few words, even in their signature, thread banned until this forum closes, I am sick to the back teeth of hearing this mantra constantly spouted as if it's going to get any attention at all.

    It has lost all possible credibility and only makes a laughing stock of anyone that insists on still using it, it's now become a total switch off for me, and I suspect a very large number of other people.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #1783
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Will they temporarily nationalise the private hospitals again so people who dont have covid can also suffer?


  • #1784
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Why are you allowed to rent short-stay accomodation on Airbnb at the moment?

    Some people need them. I know a UPC engineer who travels the country fixing stuff. Sometimes the jobs are two days and he needs to find a place to stay the night. That’s classed essential and sometimes Airbnb (they limit stays to whole occupancy rather than room only) is the only option.


  • #1785
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,433 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    It's a cover up, we're just trying to save the measly 10k doses we got .
    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    The 10k doses should have been gone on day 2. But we're trying to make them last a month or two. What a joke .

    Provide backup otherwise this belongs in the Conspiracy theories forum

    Moderator: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender, Vegan & Vegetarian

    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



  • #1786
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    It's not all about politicians, people are responsible. They don't act like adults, yes they are adults but they don't think of the greater good and that of the greater community.

    By mixing with other households and going to Xmas parties, office parties etc.. over Xmas those same people are contributing to the coming lockdown which will cost people their businesses and livelihoods and indeed their lives in the coming weeks.

    Honestly it would have been no different with Varadkar and i absolutely despise FF.

    I agree with you to an extent but when people are told yup restrictions are relaxed for Christmas and yeah visit but be careful and then see schools open there is an attitude of its alright as they would not put kids at risk. Then they stretch it a bit.


  • #1787
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,044 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    khalessi wrote: »
    I agree with you to an extent but when people are told yup restrictions are relaxed for Christmas and yeah visit but be careful and then see schools open there is an attitude of its alright as they would not put kids at risk. Then they stretch it a bit.

    Some people really are desperate to try and paint the schools being opened as the source of all woes.

    I am pretty sure absolutely nobody is thinking "the schools are open, it's all grand", and people are smart enough to realise that the schools are open despite increased risk because we'd rather live with them contributing to higher case numbers than have to close them and deal with the knock on effect of that.


  • #1788
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Some people need them. I know a UPC engineer who travels the country fixing stuff. Sometimes the jobs are two days and he needs to find a place to stay the night. That’s classed essential and sometimes Airbnb (they limit stays to whole occupancy rather than room only) is the only option.

    Fair enough for those who are essential workers, but it does seem that it's left to the host to review whether or not person trying to book property is in this category, which seems problematic.


  • #1789
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    If my wife is going for a test, should I self isolate or must I attend the work place if my boss insists?

    304 days since the first case in Ireland and people don't know whether they should go to work if the person they (presumably) share a bed with is suspected of having Covid...


  • #1790
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    1500 cases.... and you think that is is ?? Come on....
    it's 10 fold or more.


    You've revised your figures from 8 million in Ireland having it, I see.


  • #1791
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Antares35 wrote: »
    A neighbour said she couldn't pass the Hellfire/Massy's road this evening with all the illegal parking from people having a walk in the "deserted" forest.
    Going for a walk in a forest with a hundred people is not the same risk as going into a pub or a restaurant.

    Show me one example of a superspreading event outdoors, anywhere in the world? I know of only a single proven case of infection outdoors, and I've read a lot of formal papers. We've blocked people from hiking/the beach, and where else are people going to go other than mix with neighbours or do things indoors instead?

    We've had too much focus on theatre like hand sanitisers and sitting 2 metres apart, and nowhere near enough attention on the effects of ventilation.


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  • #1792
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    304 days since the first case in Ireland and people don't know whether they should go to work if the person they (presumably) share a bed with is suspected of having Covid...


    He's looking for where it explicitly states it so he can say that to his boss. Some bosses can be pricks about putting pressure on people to attend work.


  • #1793
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    304 days since the first case in Ireland and people don't know whether they should go to work if the person they (presumably) share a bed with is suspected of having Covid...

    Well, obviously the government doesnt either!

    The advice from the government is that you can go to work:p:p
    Do not go to work, unless you work on your own and can completely avoid other people. If you are an essential worker and do not have any symptoms, talk to your employer.


  • #1794
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Isn't it crazy, there are people sleeping next to potential positive cases and being forced to go to work.

    And our government allows it.


  • #1795
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    NYE rave anyone?

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/hosts-of-illegal-rave-organising-event-for-new-years-eve-on-social-media-1056894.html

    Are you gonna bring the whisky?


  • #1796
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jackboy


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Isn't it crazy, there are people sleeping next to potential positive cases and being forced to go to work.

    And our government allows it.

    They don’t want loads of essential workers to be off work. That is why they are being vague about that.


  • #1797
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Isn't it crazy, there are people sleeping next to potential positive cases and being forced to go to work.

    And our government allows it.

    Show us the source of where it says this.


  • #1798
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Isn't it crazy, there are people sleeping next to potential positive cases and being forced to go to work.

    And our government allows it.

    Along with the mother awaiting a test and going to collect the handbag earlier whilst being a close contact of a confirmed case, is it any wonder we are where we are.


  • #1799
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Isn't it crazy, there are people sleeping next to potential positive cases and being forced to go to work.

    And our government allows it.

    Ah sure it gives you another reason to blame the government rather than others not having an iota of common sense.


  • #1800
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Mimon wrote: »
    Show us the source of where it says this.

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html


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  • #1801
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    NYE rave anyone?

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/hosts-of-illegal-rave-organising-event-for-new-years-eve-on-social-media-1056894.html

    Should name and shame them tbh for it.


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