Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

Elmo · 17-12-2020 11:39AM

NIMAN wrote: »

..... and the latest salary data we have is for 2016.

Why so far back?

It's a joke. So we won't find out what they are earning now until maybe 2024/25.

Every two years

On 2 occasions they have back dated them, this will be the third time they do this

Last publication of these was in 2018 for 2016 and also 2015 AFAIK

2017 - 2019 postponed by 2 years
2018 - 2020 postponed by a year
2019 - 2021 should be published with above mid-2021 I suspect

They should name the spokesperson

Elmo · 17-12-2020 01:09PM

Kivaro wrote: »

By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

Interesting that it would be asked. So the so called Future of Media has already a pre-existing conclusion or conclusions.

The Meida Commission Days of future past.

17-12-2020 01:28PM

It is a complete stitch-up. The Politicians want their propaganda channel and RTE are more than happy to be it so long as they continue to enjoy the luxury they have become accustomed to.

Marcos · 17-12-2020 01:40PM

Kivaro wrote: »

Accountability and indeed transparency are unheard words at RTE. Why should they tell the peasants who pay their wages what their millionaires are earning?

It is a strong possibility that they are also holding off on publishing their rich list until 2021 in the hope that the government will introduce the household media charge by then. This allows the government to charge each and every household in the country that has a "device" (phone/tablet/computer etc.) a tax that will provide RTE with an endless stream of cash.

By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

You should probably post in the TV and radio forums.

Elmo · 17-12-2020 01:51PM

Marcos wrote: »

You should probably post in the TV and radio forums.

Really don't help promote this. The Future Past Of Media Commission was set up to report in 9 months time.

They have decided that the closing date for the public to be involved is the 8th of Janurary.

That's just the end of Christmas and in the middle of a pandemic. They themselves have promoted it little, that is their job, they aren't doing their job. and if one of the questions is

What do you think of a household charge?

it is because they have already decide that this is the conclusion that they will report on in 9 months time.

It is a pre-determined conclusion by academics.

Stovepipe · 17-12-2020 02:50PM

I agree. It's like watching a maths teacher demonstrating how to solve an equation; he already knows the answer. It's a foregone conclusion and my bet is that it will be enforceable by the Revenue, as it is in other countries. Default on your LPT (which includes the media charge) in France and the Revenue will be shaking out your pockets for spare change, backed by the Police.

17-12-2020 02:56PM

The difference between now and when it is introduced(if it is introduced) is that the press releases from Government and NGOs will still be carried by the media and the PR Officers will still dictate what is reported, when it is reported(embargos) and how it is reported but the Citizen will be forced to pay for the platform through which they disseminate their propaganda.

Kivaro · 17-12-2020 03:03PM

Elmo wrote: »

Really don't help promote this. The Future Past Of Media Commission was set up to report in 9 months time.

They have decided that the closing date for the public to be involved is the 8th of Janurary.

That's just the end of Christmas and in the middle of a pandemic. They themselves have promoted it little, that is their job, they aren't doing their job. and if one of the questions is

What do you think of a household charge?

it is because they have already decide that this is the conclusion that they will report on in 9 months time.

It is a pre-determined conclusion by academics.

Like so much of our lives in Ireland currently.
The bubble that many academics live in has no real semblance to real life.

Biafranlivemat · 19-12-2020 02:46AM

Kivaro wrote: »

Accountability and indeed transparency are unheard words at RTE. Why should they tell the peasants who pay their wages what their millionaires are earning?

It is a strong possibility that they are also holding off on publishing their rich list until 2021 in the hope that the government will introduce the household media charge by then. This allows the government to charge each and every household in the country that has a "device" (phone/tablet/computer etc.) a tax that will provide RTE with an endless stream of cash.

By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

The fix is in.From the website

"Are you worried about fake news? Is independent journalism important to you and to society? Do the media reflect your experience of the world? What could they do better?"
There is no independent journalism left in Ireland and no Journalist can be independent, if they relies on the government subsiding their paycheck.

RabbleRouser2k · 19-12-2020 03:01AM

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

The fix is in.From the website

"Are you worried about fake news? Is independent journalism important to you and to society? Do the media reflect your experience of the world? What could they do better?"
There is no independent journalism left in Ireland and no Journalist can be independent, if they relies on the government subsiding their paycheck.

The tragedy is that... an aspiring journalist gets into the job because they want to report the facts.
They don't want to be some spindoctor.

Or they end up reporting an absolutely s***ty news item that their editor insists is news worthy.

You just know that there are more and more journalists who wish to do exactly what that journo did, but they can't... cos a paycheck is a paycheck.

Elmo · 20-12-2020 03:49PM

Am I imagining it or were the political polls always announced on RTÉ Nine News the night before, with the political correspondents going through the the reasons that parties might have seen a drop and others might have seen an increase in support?

It seems now that RTÉ rarely make a statement on political polls. Why would this be?

Nothing on either last nights news or today's one o'clock news, nothing that I could find on their website.

RabbleRouser2k · 20-12-2020 04:51PM

Elmo wrote: »

Am I imagining it or were the political polls always announced on RTÉ Nine News the night before, with the political correspondents going through the the reasons that parties might have seen a drop and others might have seen an increase in support?

It seems now that RTÉ rarely make a statement on political polls. Why would this be?

Nothing on either last nights news or today's one o'clock news, nothing that I could find on their website.

Filling air time, tbh.

Not much else going on, really.

Elmo · 20-12-2020 05:56PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Filling air time, tbh.

Not much else going on, really.

But today they had a report on something minor surrounded by covid, uk new strain & dublin's win, so minor I can't remember what it was.

Atlantic Dawn · 21-12-2020 05:17AM

There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.

fritzelly · 21-12-2020 05:27AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.

And not one of them is up for the job - the new girl and guy they have on PT are useless beyond belief (the guy is worse)
Normally you see people working up to these kind of jobs but not in RTE

mgn · 21-12-2020 09:28AM

fritzelly wrote: »

And not one of them is up for the job - the new girl and guy they have on PT are useless beyond belief (the guy is worse)
Normally you see people working up to these kind of jobs but not in RTE

The new girl is also on Morning Ireland now, she sure is going places fast for someone that was unheard of a few months ago.
At this rate she will be taking over the Late Late Show next year.

Kivaro · 21-12-2020 12:27PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.

Speaking of Covid, there was "exponential" hysteria on the RTE Morning Ireland show this morning. The RTE presenter, rudely interrupted a virologist who was in the middle of answering a previous question, and was asked whether there should be a cargo blockade of UK goods coming into Ireland. When I say "asked", she (the RTE presenter) was actually making a statement, and hoping to hear confirmation ........ from the virologist about an economic blockade.

RTE; they can indeed be trusted ........ to continue with their partial and biased reporting of news and events.

mgn · 24-12-2020 06:08PM

What an embarrassment RTE is to this Country, Brexit trade deal agreed today and not a single presenter anywhere to be seen.

What was on RTE News Now when the news broke, a repeat of Nationwide,

What a joke these shower of clowns has become.

elperello · 24-12-2020 07:03PM

Just FYI extended Six One News on now.

mgn · 24-12-2020 07:36PM

elperello wrote: »

Just FYI extended Six One News on now.

What were the doing at 3pm today when the announced that a deal was done.

jmcc · 24-12-2020 07:40PM

mgn wrote: »

What were the doing at 3pm today when the announced that a deal was done.

Having their mask-free/social distancing free Christmas party?

Regards...jmcc

elperello · 24-12-2020 07:42PM

mgn wrote: »

What were the doing at 3pm today when the announced that a deal was done.

Don't know.

Just posted the FYI to let you know about the extended news.

Happy Christmas.

mgn · 24-12-2020 07:46PM

elperello wrote: »

Don't know.

Just posted the FYI to let you know about the extended news.

Happy Christmas.

The dident extend the News either.

mgn · 24-12-2020 07:55PM

jmcc wrote: »

Having their mask-free/social distancing free Christmas party?

Regards...jmcc

That's allowed, RTE are exempt from rules.

elperello · 24-12-2020 07:58PM

mgn wrote: »

The dident extend the News either.

I was trying to help by posting when the announcer said they were extending the bulletin.

The news was listed from 6.01 to 6.15 including weather. It ran until about 6.30 plus weather.

That's an extension IMHO.

PieOhMy · 24-12-2020 08:07PM

elperello wrote: »

I was trying to help by posting when the announcer said they were extending the bulletin.

The news was listed from 6.01 to 6.15 including weather. It ran until about 6.30 plus weather.

That's an extension IMHO.

That's actualy gas. Happy Christmas.

elperello · 24-12-2020 08:09PM

PieOhMy wrote: »

That's actualy gas. Happy Christmas.

Many happy returns

mgn · 24-12-2020 08:15PM

elperello wrote: »

I was trying to help by posting when the announcer said they were extending the bulletin.

The news was listed from 6.01 to 6.15 including weather. It ran until about 6.30 plus weather.

That's an extension IMHO.

And do you think a 30 minute News is good enough for the day that's in it.

Its not something that came out of the blue, it was well flagged last night that a deal was more or less done so the had plenty of time to get their act together.

If this happened last week it would have being wall to wall coverage for the day.

But we cant upset our RTE superstars by asking them to come in today for a few hours can we.

elperello · 24-12-2020 08:27PM

mgn wrote: »

And do you think a 30 minute News is good enough for the day that's in it.

Its not something that came out of the blue, it was well flagged last night that a deal was more or less done so the had plenty of time to get their act together.

If this happened last week it would have being wall to wall coverage for the day.

But we cant upset our RTE superstars by asking them to come in today for a few hours can we.

I was just trying to help you out by posting the info. about the extended Six One News.

I suppose that like myself you tuned into a news channel when the deal was announced and picked up most of what was relevant.

RTE added reports from Dublin, London and Brussels and an interview with An Taoiseach.

TBH on Christmas Eve that will do me.

I'll get back to the detail later.

Happy Christmas.

Elmo · 24-12-2020 09:18PM

elperello wrote: »

I was just trying to help you out by posting the info. about the extended Six One News.

I suppose that like myself you tuned into a news channel when the deal was announced and picked up most of what was relevant.

RTE added reports from Dublin, London and Brussels and an interview with An Taoiseach.

TBH on Christmas Eve that will do me.

I'll get back to the detail later.

Happy Christmas.

RTÉ started their news break on Monday, ditching the normal hour long six-one, very few companies shutdown on the 21dec.

Imagine if they had to run a 24 hour news channel... Oh wait!

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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore