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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Who is the journalist?

    Rosin Ingle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    RabbleRouser2k I will not deny nor confirm the name


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    RabbleRouser2k I will not deny nor confirm the name

    I plead the filth.... FIFTH...FIFTH!!!

    DAmmit, Gerald Kean never said the inquiry would be this difficult.

    I mean... uh.... no more questions.

    :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    Did anyone even buy that song? The 'Irish women in harmony' one?

    Checked official single charts, and checked the irish download charts... and can't find it anywhere.

    Performed pretty badly, it seems.

    That's because it was shìte


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,331 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    That's because it was shìte

    Listened to it once - my ears wouldn't be able to take another beating


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭DrSerious3


    RTE not publishing their list of top earners until 2021. They lead a charmed life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    DrSerious3 wrote: »
    RTE not publishing their list of top earners until 2021. They lead a charmed life.

    Which year’s earnings is that referring to? 2017 I assume given RTE’s previous form in not releasing the figures for 2 to 3 years after the year in question. Might as well make it 4.

    Who is Dee Forbes accountable to? No-one it seems.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    That's because it was shìte

    Indeed. I didn't like how Ryan was trying to 'guilt' people into buying the song either.

    Just donate to the charity-they get more money, and you don't end up with a crappy song on your playlist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    DrSerious3 wrote: »
    RTE not publishing their list of top earners until 2021. They lead a charmed life.
    Accountability and indeed transparency are unheard words at RTE. Why should they tell the peasants who pay their wages what their millionaires are earning?

    It is a strong possibility that they are also holding off on publishing their rich list until 2021 in the hope that the government will introduce the household media charge by then. This allows the government to charge each and every household in the country that has a "device" (phone/tablet/computer etc.) a tax that will provide RTE with an endless stream of cash.

    By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
    https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
    There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,175 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    DrSerious3 wrote: »
    RTE not publishing their list of top earners until 2021. They lead a charmed life.

    ..... and the latest salary data we have is for 2016.

    Why so far back?

    It's a joke. So we won't find out what they are earning now until maybe 2024/25.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    NIMAN wrote: »
    ..... and the latest salary data we have is for 2016.

    Why so far back?

    It's a joke. So we won't find out what they are earning now until maybe 2024/25.

    Every two years

    On 2 occasions they have back dated them, this will be the third time they do this

    Last publication of these was in 2018 for 2016 and also 2015 AFAIK

    2017 - 2019 postponed by 2 years
    2018 - 2020 postponed by a year
    2019 - 2021 should be published with above mid-2021 I suspect

    They should name the spokesperson


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Kivaro wrote: »
    By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
    https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
    There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

    Interesting that it would be asked. So the so called Future of Media has already a pre-existing conclusion or conclusions.

    The Meida Commission Days of future past.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is a complete stitch-up. The Politicians want their propaganda channel and RTE are more than happy to be it so long as they continue to enjoy the luxury they have become accustomed to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Marcos


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Accountability and indeed transparency are unheard words at RTE. Why should they tell the peasants who pay their wages what their millionaires are earning?

    It is a strong possibility that they are also holding off on publishing their rich list until 2021 in the hope that the government will introduce the household media charge by then. This allows the government to charge each and every household in the country that has a "device" (phone/tablet/computer etc.) a tax that will provide RTE with an endless stream of cash.

    By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
    https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
    There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

    You should probably post in the TV and radio forums.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Marcos wrote: »
    You should probably post in the TV and radio forums.

    Really don't help promote this. The Future Past Of Media Commission was set up to report in 9 months time.

    They have decided that the closing date for the public to be involved is the 8th of Janurary.

    That's just the end of Christmas and in the middle of a pandemic. They themselves have promoted it little, that is their job, they aren't doing their job. and if one of the questions is

    What do you think of a household charge?

    it is because they have already decide that this is the conclusion that they will report on in 9 months time.

    It is a pre-determined conclusion by academics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    I agree. It's like watching a maths teacher demonstrating how to solve an equation; he already knows the answer. It's a foregone conclusion and my bet is that it will be enforceable by the Revenue, as it is in other countries. Default on your LPT (which includes the media charge) in France and the Revenue will be shaking out your pockets for spare change, backed by the Police.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The difference between now and when it is introduced(if it is introduced) is that the press releases from Government and NGOs will still be carried by the media and the PR Officers will still dictate what is reported, when it is reported(embargos) and how it is reported but the Citizen will be forced to pay for the platform through which they disseminate their propaganda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Elmo wrote: »
    Really don't help promote this. The Future Past Of Media Commission was set up to report in 9 months time.

    They have decided that the closing date for the public to be involved is the 8th of Janurary.

    That's just the end of Christmas and in the middle of a pandemic. They themselves have promoted it little, that is their job, they aren't doing their job. and if one of the questions is

    What do you think of a household charge?

    it is because they have already decide that this is the conclusion that they will report on in 9 months time.

    It is a pre-determined conclusion by academics.

    Like so much of our lives in Ireland currently.
    The bubble that many academics live in has no real semblance to real life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Accountability and indeed transparency are unheard words at RTE. Why should they tell the peasants who pay their wages what their millionaires are earning?

    It is a strong possibility that they are also holding off on publishing their rich list until 2021 in the hope that the government will introduce the household media charge by then. This allows the government to charge each and every household in the country that has a "device" (phone/tablet/computer etc.) a tax that will provide RTE with an endless stream of cash.

    By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
    https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
    There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.
    The fix is in.From the website



    "Are you worried about fake news? Is independent journalism important to you and to society? Do the media reflect your experience of the world? What could they do better?"
    There is no independent journalism left in Ireland and no Journalist can be independent, if they relies on the government subsiding their paycheck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    The fix is in.From the website



    "Are you worried about fake news? Is independent journalism important to you and to society? Do the media reflect your experience of the world? What could they do better?"
    There is no independent journalism left in Ireland and no Journalist can be independent, if they relies on the government subsiding their paycheck.

    The tragedy is that... an aspiring journalist gets into the job because they want to report the facts.
    They don't want to be some spindoctor.

    Or they end up reporting an absolutely s***ty news item that their editor insists is news worthy.



    You just know that there are more and more journalists who wish to do exactly what that journo did, but they can't... cos a paycheck is a paycheck.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Am I imagining it or were the political polls always announced on RTÉ Nine News the night before, with the political correspondents going through the the reasons that parties might have seen a drop and others might have seen an increase in support?

    It seems now that RTÉ rarely make a statement on political polls. Why would this be?

    Nothing on either last nights news or today's one o'clock news, nothing that I could find on their website.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    Am I imagining it or were the political polls always announced on RTÉ Nine News the night before, with the political correspondents going through the the reasons that parties might have seen a drop and others might have seen an increase in support?

    It seems now that RTÉ rarely make a statement on political polls. Why would this be?

    Nothing on either last nights news or today's one o'clock news, nothing that I could find on their website.

    Filling air time, tbh.

    Not much else going on, really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Filling air time, tbh.

    Not much else going on, really.

    But today they had a report on something minor surrounded by covid, uk new strain & dublin's win, so minor I can't remember what it was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,645 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,331 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.

    And not one of them is up for the job - the new girl and guy they have on PT are useless beyond belief (the guy is worse)
    Normally you see people working up to these kind of jobs but not in RTE


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    fritzelly wrote: »
    And not one of them is up for the job - the new girl and guy they have on PT are useless beyond belief (the guy is worse)
    Normally you see people working up to these kind of jobs but not in RTE

    The new girl is also on Morning Ireland now, she sure is going places fast for someone that was unheard of a few months ago.
    At this rate she will be taking over the Late Late Show next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.

    Speaking of Covid, there was "exponential" hysteria on the RTE Morning Ireland show this morning. The RTE presenter, rudely interrupted a virologist who was in the middle of answering a previous question, and was asked whether there should be a cargo blockade of UK goods coming into Ireland. When I say "asked", she (the RTE presenter) was actually making a statement, and hoping to hear confirmation ........ from the virologist about an economic blockade.

    RTE; they can indeed be trusted ........ to continue with their partial and biased reporting of news and events.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    What an embarrassment RTE is to this Country, Brexit trade deal agreed today and not a single presenter anywhere to be seen.

    What was on RTE News Now when the news broke, a repeat of Nationwide,

    What a joke these shower of clowns has become.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,504 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Just FYI extended Six One News on now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


    elperello wrote: »
    Just FYI extended Six One News on now.

    What were the doing at 3pm today when the announced that a deal was done.


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