N22 - Macroom to Ballyvourney (Macroom Bypass) [open to traffic]

marno21 · 18-12-2020 9:11pm

New road alignment for the local road at Carrigaphooca is open, the old N22 will be routed along part of this alignment under the new N22.

The new road alignment at Ballyveerane was very close to open today. Another day or two work and it’s ready to go

The beams for the R618 bridge were lifted either Wednesday night or last night. Another beam lift complete.

I met more precast beams today heading west on the N40 around 7pm. Wonder where they’re off to

Water John · 18-12-2020 10:08pm

All Danone destination trucks already use that Castleview road to the left on the Cork side of the 2 mile bridge. As a temporary run it would be fine.

steeler j · 18-12-2020 10:18pm

Water John wrote: »

All Danone destination trucks already use that Castleview road to the left on the Cork side of the 2 mile bridge. As a temporary run it would be fine.

How long would it be ,I have hauled into Danone so I know the road

Dum_Dum · 19-12-2020 7:23pm

Just been watching the Six One News - it is true we've spent a quarter of a billion euro bypassing Macroom (pop 4000)?

Bubbaclaus · 19-12-2020 7:30pm

Dum_Dum wrote: »

Just been watching the Six One News - it is true we've spent a quarter of a billion euro bypassing Macroom (pop 4000)?

Not sure what the population has to do with it. It's a massive bottleneck on a major and busy route that required intervention. It's to benefit the people that need to travel through Macroom, not the 4,000 that live there.

marno21 · 19-12-2020 7:33pm

Dum_Dum wrote: »

Just been watching the Six One News - it is true we've spent a quarter of a billion euro bypassing Macroom (pop 4000)?

It’s not simply bypassing Macroom, it’s 22km of dual carriageway.

The construction contract was €188m. I still haven’t seen a breakdown of the supposed €281m price tag because it’s not exactly prime land along much of the route.

cantalach · 19-12-2020 7:37pm

Dum_Dum wrote: »

Just been watching the Six One News - it is true we've spent a quarter of a billion euro bypassing Macroom (pop 4000)?

It’s a 22km dual carriageway bypass of one town, two villages, and a whole lot of dangerous road between them. And it is on a busy national primary route linking two counties that have such strong economic, social, and cultural ties that they frequently referred to like a couple.

What is your point? That it isn’t on a road between Dublin and somewhere else?

Water John · 19-12-2020 7:55pm

Dum_Dum wrote: »

Just been watching the Six One News - it is true we've spent a quarter of a billion euro bypassing Macroom (pop 4000)?

That's 4,000 smart people as the saying goes that, Macroom never reared a fool.

Bypass need dealt with very well by other posters.

theguzman · 19-12-2020 8:59pm

Dum_Dum wrote: »

Just been watching the Six One News - it is true we've spent a quarter of a billion euro bypassing Macroom (pop 4000)?

Read up about the South Kerry Greenway, €20m squandered so a few rip-off hoteliers, pubs and restaurants can overcharge a few cyclists and walkers on the 95-120 days per year it is not raining heavily, all the while in an area with no proper public transport and a glorified bohereen as its only link in and out.

The Macroom Bypass is excellent value for money and something the entire region will benefit from, the Greenway for me is nothing but political corruption. Kerry could do with NewcastleWest, Abbeyfeale, Adare, Templeglantine , Croagh and Adare being bypassed and the Killarney to Mallow N72 Goat track being rebuilt entirely as a 2x2 with the N73 from Mallow to Mitchelstown connecting to the M8 given the same 2x2 treatment.

Covid will cost us €40bn, most of which is squandered keeping zombie jobs alive which should have had the plug pulled. If even one quarter of that money was put into real blocks and mortar infrastructure instead of welfare our economy would roar in the next 10-15 years.

Nedved85 · 20-12-2020 10:37am

theguzman wrote: »

Read up about the South Kerry Greenway, €20m squandered so a few rip-off hoteliers, pubs and restaurants can overcharge a few cyclists and walkers on the 95-120 days per year it is not raining heavily, all the while in an area with no proper public transport and a glorified bohereen as its only link in and out.

The Macroom Bypass is excellent value for money and something the entire region will benefit from, the Greenway for me is nothing but political corruption. Kerry could do with NewcastleWest, Abbeyfeale, Adare, Templeglantine , Croagh and Adare being bypassed and the Killarney to Mallow N72 Goat track being rebuilt entirely as a 2x2 with the N73 from Mallow to Mitchelstown connecting to the M8 given the same 2x2 treatment.

Covid will cost us €40bn, most of which is squandered keeping zombie jobs alive which should have had the plug pulled. If even one quarter of that money was put into real blocks and mortar infrastructure instead of welfare our economy would roar in the next 10-15 years.

Can't see why people moan about the Greenway. It has been fantastic for Waterford. An absolute game changer for them. Dungarvan is absolutely thriving from it. Locals and tourist benefit immensely. Outdoors, fitness, health, positivity. Bargain.

cantalach · 20-12-2020 2:05pm

Nedved85 wrote: »

Can't see why people moan about the Greenway.

Probably because a surprisingly high % of the population seem to have a deep-seated pathological reaction to the word “cyclist” and anything relating to same.

Cork Trucker · 20-12-2020 5:48pm

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1340365420142968832?s=21

hans aus dtschl · 20-12-2020 8:27pm

cantalach wrote: »

Probably because a surprisingly high % of the population seem to have a deep-seated pathological reaction to the word “cyclist” and anything relating to same.

Sadly this is pretty accurate.

hans aus dtschl · 20-12-2020 8:33pm

Nedved85 wrote: »

Can't see why people moan about the Greenway. It has been fantastic for Waterford. An absolute game changer for them. Dungarvan is absolutely thriving from it. Locals and tourist benefit immensely. Outdoors, fitness, health, positivity. Bargain.

If you talk to business owners in Kilmac, they'll tell you just how much "value" is in a greenway. Whatever about health benefits, anyone who doubts the economic viability of a greenway in Kerry doesn't quite understand the Kerry economy.

Anyway this isn't the right thread for this weird discussion. I don't know why greenway bashing has any relevance on the N22 thread.

I cycle more than I drive and I'm all in favour of the N22 upgrade. It's badly needed. Anyone who drove that road or looked at the traffic numbers would know. It's one of a few no-brainer roads upgrades around the country.

marno21 · 20-12-2020 8:34pm

MOD:

No more greenway talk. Fair enough to talk about the N22 bypass but not as an indirect method of cyclist bashing.

Plenty to talk about after the last week or 2 regarding this scheme.

The beams for the 2nd (eastern) span of the bridge over the R618 were lifted in on Friday night by the looks of things.

New road alignment at Ballyveerane is open also with traffic management.

serfboard · 21-12-2020 12:43pm

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

I'm all in favour of the N22 upgrade. It's badly needed. Anyone who drove that road ... would know.

That's it. Anyone who questions the need for this N22 upgrade has never driven it.

Mrs Dempsey · 21-12-2020 3:30pm

Dum_Dum wrote: »

...........a quarter of a billion euro bypassing Macroom (pop 4000)?

I likely know many of them - from staring @ them while in stationery traffic.

That said I'm failing to grasp the correlation you highlight regarding the population of the bypassed town & the spend. Many would suggest traffic count a more appropriate metric when assessing VFM?

Your moniker is kind of apposite? Happy Christmas.

Pete_Cavan · 21-12-2020 4:30pm

Reminds me of the nonsense talked about the M17/18 as if it was built to serve Gort and Tuam exclusively and absolutely no journeys to/from anywhere else could be made on it.

Water John · 21-12-2020 4:46pm

Not to mind Danny and Michael trying to get to Dublin quickly, on important State business.

yerwanthere123 · 21-12-2020 4:51pm

Wonder how long we'll be waiting for the next big N22 project. I think the proposed Macroom-Ovens scheme is officially called off until 2027, but God knows when that will get going again, if ever. Then there's the second proposed Killarney bypass, and another road linking Lissivigeen with the Muckross road. All probably pipe dreams though

Water John · 21-12-2020 4:59pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Wonder how long we'll be waiting for the next big N22 project. I think the proposed Macroom-Ovens scheme is officially called off until 2027, but God knows when that will get going again, if ever. Then there's the second proposed Killarney bypass, and another road linking Lissivigeen with the Muckross road. All probably pipe dreams though

That's the regret at not having the piece between the two and four mile bridges included this time. This will be a shockingly poor part of the road.

Covidhaveago · 21-12-2020 7:38pm

Dum_Dum wrote: »

Just been watching the Six One News - it is true we've spent a quarter of a billion euro bypassing Macroom (pop 4000)?

We spent 1.5 billion on a motorway between Kildare and a small urban conurbation in the South East. In comparison, this project between the states second largest urban area and its natural hinterland is good value.

marno21 · 22-12-2020 6:45pm

Most of the plant along the route parked up today. The contractors are well overdue a nice and relaxing Christmas after the progress to date.

marno21 · 22-12-2020 6:46pm

Water John wrote: »

That's the regret at not having the piece between the two and four mile bridges included this time. This will be a shockingly poor part of the road.

The hope there would be that the 5km+ or so of dogs dinner between Coolcower and Crookstown would help to spur on the N22 Macroom-Ovens scheme. It just about missed the cut for inclusion in the NDP in 2018.

Imagine dual carriageway from Cork to Ballyvourney West and Killarney-Farranfore. You'd be in any part of Kerry in no time at all.

Water John · 22-12-2020 7:16pm

'Imagine dual carriageway from Cork to Ballyvourney West and Killarney-Farranfore. You'd be in any part of Kerry in no time at all'. Marno

Why would you go there?

BelfastVanMan · 23-12-2020 10:20am

Water John wrote: »

'Imagine dual carriageway from Cork to Ballyvourney West and Killarney-Farranfore. You'd be in any part of Kerry in no time at all'. Marno

Why would you go there?

Is this a serious post?

AugustusMinimus · 23-12-2020 2:33pm

Covidhaveago wrote: »

We spent 1.5 billion on a motorway between Kildare and a small urban conurbation in the South East. In comparison, this project between the states second largest urban area and its natural hinterland is good value.

Is this a serious post. Are you seriously saying that the M9 shouldn’t have been built?

Paddico · 23-12-2020 2:36pm

Cork Trucker wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1340365420142968832?s=21

Dont mean to go off topic but isnt it time RTE drop the Brittan bit. BBC are good at it too when Ireland do well in something.
Were not part of Britain.
Why not just say Ireland and Belgium!!

cantalach · 23-12-2020 6:18pm

Paddico wrote: »

Dont mean to go off topic but isnt it time RTE drop the Brittan bit. BBC are good at it too when Ireland do well in something.
Were not part of Britain.
Why not just say Ireland and Belgium!!

For the same reason you wrote the above in English and, with respect, probably have no idea what my username means. It’s the same reason that a real howya of a Dub once asked me why I was supporting a foreign team when I cheered for Madrid on scoring against Man U. We take an à la carte approach to our independence, asserting it when necessary but happy to be lumped in with the Brits when it suits.

rounders · 23-12-2020 9:08pm

Lads can we bring this back on topic instead of going down uk history rabbit holes or justifying the road. It's in the middle of construction so no longer the time to decide if it's justified or not

marno21 · 06-01-2021 2:29pm

Drone footage of the site as it finished for Xmas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCKdYSkteKE

yerwanthere123 · 06-01-2021 2:52pm

Thanks marno. Looking like they won't be allowed work on it for a while more, but hopefully just a temporary shutdown.

marno21 · 06-01-2021 3:12pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Thanks marno. Looking like they won't be allowed work on it for a while more, but hopefully just a temporary shutdown.

Talks of an exemption for large infrastructure projects so fingers crossed that’s the case.

Ludicrous shutting this down really.

06-01-2021 7:39pm

We are not living in normal times. It's not war, but we're not living in a time and place where road projects trump hospitals being overwhelmed and doctors having to decide who is more likely to live. This is a global pandemic that has put 954 people in hospital as of tonight. That number will rise for at least 2 more weeks. We don't have an infinite number of doctors, nurses and beds. We have to hunker down before the situation completely descends into fire fighting an unstoppable blaze.

mydiscworld · 08-01-2021 11:52am

‘Phenomenal progress’ on Macroom bypass

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40202279.html?fbclid=IwAR2bXhO2OCwik9XYbKju4XRKoe8M17HxofbLVeNHqY_CMqsEwPxXZp4C7OY

yerwanthere123 · 08-01-2021 2:48pm

So anyone know if work is still going ahead this month or if an exception was granted?

aisling86 · 08-01-2021 7:49pm

This going ahead https://www.facebook.com/1744441842/posts/10208605641095523/

yerwanthere123 · 08-01-2021 11:17pm

aisling86 wrote: »

This going ahead https://www.facebook.com/1744441842/posts/10208605641095523/

Yay, good news

DumbBrunette · 11-01-2021 3:47pm

Spoke to a representative of the JV today. Unfortunately most work has ceased on this, just some crews still out finishing certain works for safety reasons, but most workers have returned to barracks, for want of a better phrase.

marno21 · 12-01-2021 12:17am

The website says they are continuing to operate

http://www.n22bbm.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/N22BBM-Update-re-Covid-19-closedown-site-notice-11th-Jan-2021-Final-2-pdf.jpg

DumbBrunette · 12-01-2021 12:52am

That's mad, I actually called the mobile number on that notice and was told the whole project was shut down apart from some skeleton crews.

marno21 wrote: »

The website says they are continuing to operate

http://www.n22bbm.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/N22BBM-Update-re-Covid-19-closedown-site-notice-11th-Jan-2021-Final-2-pdf.jpg

ongarboy · 12-01-2021 1:01am

My brother in law works on-site. They were all sent home last Friday evening as part of the latest restrictions.

tinner777 · 12-01-2021 9:49am

No one there yesterday on the bits you can see from the road &#55357;&#56853;

aisling86 · 12-01-2021 10:49am

tinner777 wrote: »

No one there yesterday on the bits you can see from the road ��

Yup its v quiet i can't see anyone on site from our house & usually there is alot of movement from 7.30am

Happy Dragon · 12-01-2021 2:31pm

https://www.radiokerry.ie/works-macroom-bypass-will-continue-throughout-level-5-restrictions/

Water John · 12-01-2021 3:59pm

If it had to stop for a few months until Covid is under control, I wouldn't mind. A few months delay in 30 years delay, isn't much.

theguzman · 12-01-2021 4:51pm

Water John wrote: »

If it had to stop for a few months until Covid is under control, I wouldn't mind. A few months delay in 30 years delay, isn't much.

As Johnny Logan might say, what's another year?

Water John · 12-01-2021 8:17pm

I'd expect the delay to be a few months, at worst.

highwaymaniac · 14-01-2021 10:56pm

https://tecade.eu/tecade-starts-the-year-with-the-shipment-and-on-site-assembly-of-the-structures-manufactured-for-a-major-road-project-in-southern-ireland/

Large steel beams being shipped over from Seville in Spain for the Bohill Bridge. If they can keep going with the critical bridges the overall delay should be minimal.

Truckermal · 15-01-2021 12:25am

A lot of concrete beams from Banagher coming down all this week!

N22 - Macroom to Ballyvourney (Macroom Bypass) [open to traffic]

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