The Vaccine

Quiner · 21-12-2020 12:04PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

A german doctor has suggested that anti-vaxxers should forego ventilators.

"A German geneticist has said those who turn down the new COVID-19 vaccine should carry a note also refusing intensive care treatment. He also said medical decisions should not be left to conspiracy theorists."

""Whoever wants to refuse the vaccination outright, he should, please also always carry a document with the inscription: 'I don't want to be vaccinated!'" Wolfram Henn, a human geneticist, told Bild on Saturday. "I want to leave the protection against the disease to others! I want, if I get sick, to leave my intensive care bed and ventilator to others.""
https://www.dw.com/en/anti-vaxxers-should-forgo-ventilators-german-doctor-says/a-55996805

Some of these people are getting pissed off with all this nonsense.

I would have no problem doing that. The risk is miniscule anyway, so I'd be all for that suggestion.

And I trust the good doctor has said the same about people who are obese, not because of a medical condition, but because of a bad diet and lack of exercise, and people who choose to smoke and drink to excess. Has he?

Fighting Tao · 21-12-2020 12:05PM

Quiner wrote: »

Thanks. I've provided a few links and will provide a few more.

Can you answer my question about living in a green, orange and red traffic light Ireland?

You are really scraping the barrel. This is from the HSE website: “ The Health Passport is a communication tool to help people with intellectual disabilities communicate aspects of their health and social care needs. The NMPDU North West provided support for this initiative under the service improvement and innovation fund. The Health Passport helps healthcare staff understand the abilities and needs of people with an intellectual disability who come in contact with healthcare setting.”

Did you forget to read about what the Health Passport is?
Do you think that everyone has an intellectual disability?
Do you think it is wrong to assist those with intellectual disabilities communicate their health care needs?

aido79 · 21-12-2020 12:16PM

Quiner wrote: »

Thanks. I've provided a few links and will provide a few more.

Can you answer my question about living in a green, orange and red traffic light Ireland?

The question: "Would you be happy living in a country where going to the shop, to a restaurant, to a football stadium, a concert, the hospital, the local GP surgery, to an airport, and to the office was only possible if the light on your Health passport Ireland Ireland app on your phone flashed green?"

Forget about whether it could or couldn't happen. It's a hypothetical scenario based on the promo video for Health Passport Ireland which describes how "we can all use Health Passport Ireland in many ways, such as travel, hospitality, education, health care, construction, offices, entertainment, visits and much, much more" (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88ZKJhztiM)

So a simple "I would" or "I wouldn't" will suffice.

I've asked the question a couple of times now and it has yet to be answered.

I would.

Can you explain why you wouldn't?

aido79 · 21-12-2020 12:19PM

Quiner wrote: »

I would have no problem doing that. The risk is miniscule anyway, so I'd be all for that suggestion.

And I trust the good doctor has said the same about people who are obese, not because of a medical condition, but because of a bad diet and lack of exercise, and people who choose to smoke and drink to excess. Has he?

The risk may be small with social distancing measures in place but as we have seen everytime parts of the economy open up the risk increases. How are you so sure that if you contract covid19 you will not need to be hospitalised?

Ted_YNWA · 21-12-2020 12:44PM

Quiner wrote: »

Thanks. I've provided a few links and will provide a few more.

Can you answer my question about living in a green, orange and red traffic light Ireland?

The question: "Would you be happy living in a country where going to the shop, to a restaurant, to a football stadium, a concert, the hospital, the local GP surgery, to an airport, and to the office was only possible if the light on your Health passport Ireland Ireland app on your phone flashed green?"

Forget about whether it could or couldn't happen. It's a hypothetical scenario based on the promo video for Health Passport Ireland which describes how "we can all use Health Passport Ireland in many ways, such as travel, hospitality, education, health care, construction, offices, entertainment, visits and much, much more" (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88ZKJhztiM)

So a simple "I would" or "I wouldn't" will suffice.

I've asked the question a couple of times now and it has yet to be answered.

None of these are going to happen, so you may as well be asking 'Would I dye my hair pink'

But the answer would be yes. What is there to hide that you have an all-clear for having a potential highly infectious transmittable disease.

If we go even further down the rabbit hole, would Tesco start direct advertising me cakes & biscuits if they know I have a high BMI/bad diet history?

GT89 · 21-12-2020 12:47PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

A german doctor has suggested that anti-vaxxers should forego ventilators.

"A German geneticist has said those who turn down the new COVID-19 vaccine should carry a note also refusing intensive care treatment. He also said medical decisions should not be left to conspiracy theorists."

""Whoever wants to refuse the vaccination outright, he should, please also always carry a document with the inscription: 'I don't want to be vaccinated!'" Wolfram Henn, a human geneticist, told Bild on Saturday. "I want to leave the protection against the disease to others! I want, if I get sick, to leave my intensive care bed and ventilator to others.""
https://www.dw.com/en/anti-vaxxers-should-forgo-ventilators-german-doctor-says/a-55996805

Some of these people are getting pissed off with all this nonsense.

I wouldn't have a problem with that either tbh again the risk to people who are not medically vulnerable is minimal. Of course id he said that healthcare full stop would be denied to people without the vaccine I would against that but illnesses related to covid I would have no problem if they refused care.

EyesClosed · 21-12-2020 12:50PM

GT89 wrote: »

I wouldn't have a problem with that either tbh again the risk to people who are not medically vulnerable is minimal. Of course id he said that healthcare full stop would be denied to people without the vaccine I would against that but illnesses related to covid I would have no problem if they refused care.

Welcome back... I'm still waiting for evidence from you from page one... Can I get it? Thanks

US2 · 21-12-2020 01:39PM

aido79 wrote: »

The risk may be small with social distancing measures in place but as we have seen everytime parts of the economy open up the risk increases. How are you so sure that if you contract covid19 you will not need to be hospitalised?

Flu is more dangerous to people under 45 than covid. All the data shows this.

runawaybishop · 21-12-2020 01:50PM

US2 wrote: »

Flu is more dangerous to people under 45 than covid. All the data shows this.

Absolute horse****. All the data shows the opposite.

Show your 'data' please. And a video from Dave the Chronic Master on bitchute isn't data.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30527-0/fulltext

In adolescents (11–17 years), the in-hospital mortality was ten-times higher for COVID-19 than for influenza

drunkmonkey · 21-12-2020 01:52PM

US2 wrote: »

Flu is more dangerous to people under 45 than covid. All the data shows this.

Flu kills 4 under 12's here every year according to the HSE's own flu vaccination information provided to parents to encourage uptake of the flu shot in the under 12's this year.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 01:56PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

You are really scraping the barrel. This is from the HSE website: “ The Health Passport is a communication tool to help people with intellectual disabilities communicate aspects of their health and social care needs. The NMPDU North West provided support for this initiative under the service improvement and innovation fund. The Health Passport helps healthcare staff understand the abilities and needs of people with an intellectual disability who come in contact with healthcare setting.”

Did you forget to read about what the Health Passport is?
Do you think that everyone has an intellectual disability?
Do you think it is wrong to assist those with intellectual disabilities communicate their health care needs?

I don't know how many times I can explain that Health Passport Ireland and that HSE health passport are different.

Health Passport Ireland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88ZKJhztiM

The HSE health passport: https://healthservice.hse.ie/about-us/onmsd/onmsd-blog/hse-health-passport-mission-possible-short-film.html

Health Passport Ireland was launched this year. The HSE health passport was launched in 2019.

Do you acknowledge now that they're different?

aido79 · 21-12-2020 02:00PM

US2 wrote: »

Flu is more dangerous to people under 45 than covid. All the data shows this.

I think you're missing the point altogether like most conspiracy theorists. I am under 45 and would be confident that I would survive if I contract covid19. I actually suspect I've already had it. However I would not like to see a situation where there isn't a hospital bed available for myself, my children or another family member if they get sick from anything else apart from covid19 because the hospitals are overrun with covid19 cases.
If you can offer some proof that this would not happen if covid19 is allowed to spread as you seem to want then I am willing to look at.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 02:01PM

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

None of these are going to happen, so you may as well be asking 'Would I dye my hair pink'

But the answer would be yes. What is there to hide that you have an all-clear for having a potential highly infectious transmittable disease.

If we go even further down the rabbit hole, would Tesco start direct advertising me cakes & biscuits if they know I have a high BMI/bad diet history?

So to do anything in your own country you'd be required to have a green light flash on your phone. No green light, no taking part in society.

And it's important to note that it's Health Passport Ireland, not Covid Passport Ireland. So it could be that a person would just have to be healthy (no cold, runny nose etc) to be able to do all of the things I mentioned, and that are mentioned in the promo video for Health Passport Ireland.

But if Irish people are happy living in a society like that, then that's okay. But I find the idea horrifying.

And yes, I say 'could'. It's hypothetical, but it's not outrageous to think that it could happen when the very company that has a promo video about all the different places their passport could be used for is being trialled in the country as we speak.

Fighting Tao · 21-12-2020 02:04PM

Quiner wrote: »

I don't know how many times I can explain that Health Passport Ireland and that HSE health passport are different.

Health Passport Ireland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88ZKJhztiM

The HSE health passport: https://healthservice.hse.ie/about-us/onmsd/onmsd-blog/hse-health-passport-mission-possible-short-film.html

Health Passport Ireland was launched this year. The HSE health passport was launched in 2019.

Do you acknowledge now that they're different?

My mistake there.

Tbh, it would be reckless and probably unlawful for companies not to protect their employees. So it does sound good. Pity it seems to be tied to one testing company though. Also, they have a legal right to refuse admission. Win\win for safety.

21-12-2020 02:12PM

Again, we are closing in on 2000 posts, and not one solid rational conspiracy theory has been presented at all.

So far, we've had:
The vaccine isn't needed.
The vaccine is just to make money.
The vaccine doesn't work.
The vaccine won't work in the future.
The vaccine contains nanomachines to track us.
The vaccine contains nanomachines or other chemicals to make people infertile.
The vaccine will change our DNA.
The vaccine will change our DNA to uplink us to artificial intelligence.
The vaccine will be super deadly.
The vaccine will be more deadly than covid, but still deadly enough to be concerned about it.
The vaccine will cause unknown long term side effects.
The vaccine will cause immediate dangerous side effects.
The vaccine will cause side effects that aren't that dangerous, but still more worrying than covid.
The vaccine will cause autism
The vaccine will cause narcolepsy.
The vaccine is too new to be trusted.
The vaccine was made years ago along with the virus.
All vaccines are a scam.
All vaccines cause autism/narcolepsy/death etc.

Have I missed any?

Quiner · 21-12-2020 02:14PM

King Mob wrote: »

Again, we are closing in on 2000 posts, and not one solid rational conspiracy theory has been presented at all.

So far, we've had:
The vaccine isn't needed.
The vaccine is just to make money.
The vaccine doesn't work.
The vaccine won't work in the future.
The vaccine contains nanomachines to track us.
The vaccine contains nanomachines or other chemicals to make people infertile.
The vaccine will change our DNA.
The vaccine will change our DNA to uplink us to artificial intelligence.
The vaccine will be super deadly.
The vaccine will be more deadly than covid, but still deadly enough to be concerned about it.
The vaccine will cause unknown long term side effects.
The vaccine will cause immediate dangerous side effects.
The vaccine will cause side effects that aren't that dangerous, but still more worrying than covid.
The vaccine will cause autism
The vaccine will cause narcolepsy.
The vaccine is too new to be trusted.
The vaccine was made years ago along with the virus.
All vaccines are a scam.
All vaccines cause autism/narcolepsy/death etc.

Have I missed any?

I explained what the conspiracy is. If you choose to ignore the post so you can mock other posters, that is your right. But it's wrong to say that a conspiracy has not been presented.

21-12-2020 02:15PM

Quiner wrote: »

I explained what the conspiracy is. If you choose to ignore the post so you can mock other posters, that is your right. But it's wrong to say that a conspiracy has not been presented.

No, you haven't presented a conspiracy theory.
Your claim is vague and shallow and you'll dodge any attempt to detail it or support it.

All of these things have been claimed on this thread.
Do you agree with all of them or is your conspiracy theory the only valid one?

Quiner · 21-12-2020 02:24PM

King Mob wrote: »

No, you haven't presented a conspiracy theory.
Your claim is vague and shallow and you'll dodge any attempt to detail it or support it.

All of these things have been claimed on this thread.
Do you agree with all of them or is your conspiracy theory the only valid one?

Okay, here it is again, so that there's no ambiguity:

The purpose of covid-19, whether it was planned or is being exploited, is to crush the economy and small businesses so that society can be reset and built back better. Hence the global use of 'build back better' and the upcoming Great Reset. The end result will be a technocratic hell (hence the present psyop being driven by experts to get people used to living in a society ruled by technocrats and health experts) in which restrictions will be placed on human beings, much of nature will be off limits ('climate change' being the justification) and technology will be essential to survive (Health Passport Ireland, QR codes, vaccination passports).

Is that clear enough?

If a person cannot do anything unless the light goes green on their health passport, or unless vaccinated, then that is the mark of the beast come to pass. The health passport, or the vaccine, is the mark in that case, and one cannot do anything ('buy or sell') unless they have taken the mark. Isn't that clearly the mark of the beast? Now, even if you don't want to call it 'the mark of the beast', it doesn't really matter, because it's identical to it. So you can call it whatever you like, it doesn't matter. Same thing.

runawaybishop · 21-12-2020 02:27PM

Lol QR codes. Why on earth should we believe your outlandish claims when you are scared of qr codes?

We already have vaccination requirements for travelling and have had for years. We also have vaccination requirements here for kids. Your theory sucks.

Fighting Tao · 21-12-2020 02:30PM

Quiner wrote: »

Okay, here it is again, so that there's no ambiguity:

The purpose of covid-19, whether it was planned or is being exploited, is to crush the economy and small businesses so that society can be reset and built back better. Hence the global use of 'build back better' and the upcoming Great Reset. The end result will be a technocratic hell (hence the present psyop being driven by experts to get people used to living in a society ruled by technocrats and health experts) in which restrictions will be placed on human beings, much of nature will be off limits ('climate change' being the justification) and technology will be essential to survive (Health Passport Ireland, QR codes, vaccination passports).

Is that clear enough?

If a person cannot do anything unless the light goes green on their health passport, or unless vaccinated, then that is the mark of the beast come to pass. The health passport, or the vaccine, is the mark in that case, and one cannot do anything ('buy or sell') unless they have taken the mark. Isn't that clearly the mark of the beast? Now, even if you don't want to call it 'the mark of the beast', it doesn't really matter, because it's identical to it. So you can call it whatever you like, it doesn't matter. Same thing.

No wonder I was getting confused. Call it what it is please. Also, note that it has been developed by a private company, and it is not government sanctioned, nor does it mean it will ever be government sanctioned. It simply helps business, if they wish to implement it (free choice) keep their staff and customers safe, and avoid insurance claims and legal cases for endangering staff or public.

Btw, it was stupid of Roku to name it so similar to the HSE Health Passport.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 02:34PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Lol QR codes. Why on earth should we believe your outlandish claims when you are scared of qr codes?

We already have vaccination requirements for travelling and have had for years. We also have vaccination requirements here for kids. Your theory sucks.

Imagine having to sign up to some stupid website and scan your phone to buy a cup of tea. Imagine how miserable and uncomfortable life would be. It's bad enough having to wear a muzzle to do most things in this country. I'm not afraid of QR codes. I'm saying they are another means of control.

I have said that I have no problem with vaccination for travel. There's already a precedent there with Yellow Fever. But to go from that to vaccination for everything (as presented as a possibility in the promo video for Health Passport Ireland ) is a huge difference.

You insist that I am afraid of QR codes. I'm not. I can't keep repeating myself.

21-12-2020 02:38PM

Quiner wrote: »

Okay, here it is again, so that there's no ambiguity:

The purpose of covid-19, whether it was planned or is being exploited, is to crush the economy and small businesses so that society can be reset and built back better. Hence the global use of 'build back better' and the upcoming Great Reset. The end result will be a technocratic hell (hence the present psyop being driven by experts to get people used to living in a society ruled by technocrats and health experts) in which restrictions will be placed on human beings, much of nature will be off limits ('climate change' being the justification) and technology will be essential to survive (Health Passport Ireland, QR codes, vaccination passports).

Is that clear enough?

If a person cannot do anything unless the light goes green on their health passport, or unless vaccinated, then that is the mark of the beast come to pass. The health passport, or the vaccine, is the mark in that case, and one cannot do anything ('buy or sell') unless they have taken the mark. Isn't that clearly the mark of the beast? Now, even if you don't want to call it 'the mark of the beast', it doesn't really matter, because it's identical to it. So you can call it whatever you like, it doesn't matter. Same thing.

Again, like I said, no rational theory has been presented.

And no, it's not clear and doesn't actually address the vaccine.
Do you believe the vaccine actually works?
Do you believe the vaccine is safe?
Do you believe the people who developed it are a part of this global conspiracy you believe in?
Do you believe that the vaccine has chemicals or nanotechnology not listed in it's ingredients?
Do you believe that the vaccine is intended to kill people or render them sterile?
Do you believe that the vaccine will be used to track people?
Do you believe that the vaccine will alter people's DNA?

Again, from experience, you're going to dodge these questions because you have no answers because your conspiracy theory is shallow empty nonsense.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 02:40PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

No wonder I was getting confused. Call it what it is please. Also, note that it has been developed by a private company, and it is not government sanctioned, nor does it mean it will ever be government sanctioned. It simply helps business, if they wish to implement it (free choice) keep their staff and customers safe, and avoid insurance claims and legal cases for endangering staff or public.

Btw, it was stupid of Roku to name it so similar to the HSE Health Passport.

I did call it what it is. It's called Health Passport Ireland. That's what I called it.

It's being trialled all across the country as we speak: https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/health-passport-ireland-launches-covid-testing-workplace

Note that the article describes Roqu as a "government consultancy firm".

From that article:

"As well as launching in Ireland, the platform will also be launched in the UK, US, Italy, Kenya and Germany, with other locations to follow." (green, orange and red lights all over the world)

"Health Passport Ireland will launch with a trial involving a range of national participants including Tallaght University Hospital, Oaklodge Nursing Home, Emerald Freight, Keogh’s Farm and Home Music Festival, among other businesses."

Would you be happy to live in a society that required the light flashing green on your health passport to be able to anything and everything?

Fighting Tao · 21-12-2020 02:40PM

Quiner wrote: »

Imagine having to sign up to some stupid website and scan your phone to buy a cup of tea. Imagine how miserable and uncomfortable life would be. It's bad enough having to wear a muzzle to do most things in this country. I'm not afraid of QR codes. I'm saying they are another means of control.

I have said that I have no problem with vaccination for travel. There's already a precedent there with Yellow Fever. But to go from that to vaccination for everything (as presented as a possibility in the promo video for Health Passport Ireland ) is a huge difference.

You insist that I am afraid of QR codes. I'm not. I can't keep repeating myself.

Why would anyone be wearing a muzzle? They are notoriously bad at preventing the spread of viruses. Is that a new part of the conspiracy or something? Maybe you are confused if you are pro spreading the virus or against.

If you don’t like what policies a business implements, then don’t try to be their customer. I avoid some myself for different reasons.

How many companies are forcing you to use the Roku Health Passport Ireland? Is it a legal requirement? If it is, then would the government give control of something like that to a private company?

Fighting Tao · 21-12-2020 02:43PM

Quiner wrote: »

I did call it what it is. It's called Health Passport Ireland. That's what I called it.

It's being trialled all across the country as we speak: https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/health-passport-ireland-launches-covid-testing-workplace

Note that the article describes Roqu as a "government consultancy firm".

From that article:

"As well as launching in Ireland, the platform will also be launched in the UK, US, Italy, Kenya and Germany, with other locations to follow." (green, orange and red lights all over the world)

"Health Passport Ireland will launch with a trial involving a range of national participants including Tallaght University Hospital, Oaklodge Nursing Home, Emerald Freight, Keogh’s Farm and Home Music Festival, among other businesses."

Would you be happy to live in a society that required the light flashing green on your health passport to be able to anything and everything?

Read what I bolded in the post you quoted. I bolded what you said, and it is confusing to call it ‘health passport’, and misleading.

To answer your question, I would genuinely love to live in a society that keeps those who don’t vaccinate away from me.

runawaybishop · 21-12-2020 02:43PM

Quiner wrote: »

Imagine having to sign up to some stupid website and scan your phone to buy a cup of tea. Imagine how miserable and uncomfortable life would be. It's bad enough having to wear a muzzle to do most things in this country. I'm not afraid of QR codes. I'm saying they are another means of control.

I have said that I have no problem with vaccination for travel. There's already a precedent there with Yellow Fever. But to go from that to vaccination for everything (as presented as a possibility in the promo video for Health Passport Ireland ) is a huge difference.

You insist that I am afraid of QR codes. I'm not. I can't keep repeating myself.

Imagine. That's the keyword here, this is just in your imagination.

You don't need to sign up to anything to buy a cup of tea, you are offered a chance to subscribe to whatever crap they are peddling. No onus on you at all. Nothing to do with control.

That health passport is a private company trying to flog their system.

Fyi calling a mask a muzzle doesn't do much for your credibility.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 02:44PM

King Mob wrote: »

Again, like I said, no rational theory has been presented.

And no, it's not clear and doesn't actually address the vaccine.
Do you believe the vaccine actually works?
Do you believe the vaccine is safe?
Do you believe the people who developed it are a part of this global conspiracy you believe in?
Do you believe that the vaccine has chemicals or nanotechnology not listed in it's ingredients?
Do you believe that the vaccine is intended to kill people or render them sterile?
Do you believe that the vaccine will be used to track people?
Do you believe that the vaccine will alter people's DNA?

Again, from experience, you're going to dodge these questions because you have no answers because your conspiracy theory is shallow empty nonsense.

Sorry, maybe my post would be better suited to one of the other threads.

But to answer your questions on the vaccine:

1. Yes (to a point because we don't know about prevention of transmission yet)

2. I'm not sure (I'd be more confident about the Oxford and Russian vaccines than the other ones).

3. No

4. No

5. No

6. Possibly

7. I don't know, but it's a concern.

aido79 · 21-12-2020 02:47PM

Quiner wrote: »

Imagine having to sign up to some stupid website and scan your phone to buy a cup of tea. Imagine how miserable and uncomfortable life would be. It's bad enough having to wear a muzzle to do most things in this country. I'm not afraid of QR codes. I'm saying they are another means of control.

I have said that I have no problem with vaccination for travel. There's already a precedent there with Yellow Fever. But to go from that to vaccination for everything (as presented as a possibility in the promo video for Health Passport Ireland ) is a huge difference.

You insist that I am afraid of QR codes. I'm not. I can't keep repeating myself.

Is getting rid of all the elderly part of the conspiracy too because it would be too difficult to educate them on the technology needed? It would sense wouldn't it....
It would probably cause a lot of problems too if they all had to change their wills because they don't own any of the things contained in them either. It all becoming clearer now.

Quiner · 21-12-2020 02:48PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Imagine. That's the keyword here, this is just in your imagination.

You don't need to sign up to anything to buy a cup of tea, you are offered a chance to subscribe to whatever crap they are peddling. No onus on you at all. Nothing to do with control.

That health passport is a private company trying to flog their system.

Fyi calling a mask a muzzle doesn't do much for your credibility.

It's a private company, but it just so happens to be a government consultancy firm as well (see https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/health-passport-ireland-launches-covid-testing-workplace). If you choose not read the article, then that's up to you. But Roqu Group, who is behind Health Passport Ireland, is described in the article as a government consultancy firm.

In London, where I was a month or so ago, most cafés and restaurants insist on QR codes and the NHS app. You can't go in unless you have the app. I didn't imagine that.

They are muzzles, in my opinion.

21-12-2020 02:52PM

Quiner wrote: »

1. Yes (to a point because we don't know about prevention of transmission yet)

2. I'm not sure (I'd be more confident about the Oxford and Russian vaccines than the other ones).

Ok. So how does this fit into the rest of your wacky theory?

Quiner wrote: »

3. No

So the doctors who developed the vaccine didn't notice that the virus was arteficial?

Quiner wrote: »

4. No

5. No

Why not? Why do conspiracy theorists like yourself claim this when you believe they are wrong?

Quiner wrote: »

6. Possibly

Lol. How is it possible?

Quiner wrote: »

7. I don't know, but it's a concern.

No. It's not.
It's only a concern for conspiracy theorists and other people who don't know how the vaccine works.
Or the willfully ignorant.

The Vaccine

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