The Vaccine

jimmycrackcorm

Quiner wrote: »

You should tell Schwab that. He seems to think it's a given. He has described the idea of going back to what he sinisterly calls the 'old normal' as a 'fiction'.

What are the radical changes?

Humanity has gone through the same issues as we have now before with the Spanish flu. The difference now is that they didn't have the internet to peddle conspiracy theories back then.

I think that were we going through a smallpox pandemic currently, that it wouldn't be eradicated due to the anti-vax agenda spreading across the internet.

Timberrrrrrrr

Quiner wrote: »

So they'd go to all the expense of developing the app, and of trialling it, roll it out all across the world, only to let people choose not to bother with it?

If I forgot my ID I could go home to get it. If I was 'unhealthy' according to Health Passport Ireland I'd be locked out of society.

Who's they? It's a private company trying to cash in that's all.

Quiner

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Who's they? It's a private company trying to cash in that's all.

A private company that will provide the Irish Government with the results of their trial. The Irish Government will then analyse the results.

Quiner

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Humanity has gone through the same issues as we have now before with the Spanish flu. The difference now is that they didn't have the internet to peddle conspiracy theories back then.

I think that were we going through a smallpox pandemic currently, that it wouldn't be eradicated due to the anti-vax agenda spreading across the internet.

https://twitter.com/1RichieAllen/status/1340599827684597763

But when all the conspiracy theories come true are they still conspiracy theories?

As Richie Allen writes in the tweet, he warned of digital health passports way back in March.

aido79

Quiner wrote: »

My mobile phone doesn't monitor me at work. I can turn the phone off. Schwab mentioned the possibility of technology allowing employers to monitor their employees. How would you feel about that?

What do you mean by monitor people at work?
If Joe is a bricklayer is it going to track him all day on site? If Frank is a gardener is it going to track him around the garden all day?

Quiner

Quiner wrote: »

My mobile phone doesn't monitor me at work. I can turn the phone off. Schwab mentioned the possibility of technology allowing employers to monitor their employees. How would you feel about that?

Do you have a work computer? If so, your place of employer is free to monitor any activities that you do on it.

Timberrrrrrrr

Quiner wrote: »

A private company that will provide the Irish Government with the results of their trial. The Irish Government will then analyse the results.

And? It means nothing, It must be terrible living your life in constant fear like this.

Quiner

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And? It means nothing, It must be terrible living your life in constant fear like this.

The trial was a great success in that small Roscommon town. So it should also be a great success in the other places they're trialling it in.

It's not constant fear. It's fear of Health Passport Ireland and the Great Reset. But I don't let it consume me. I am making plans should Health Passport Ireland be rolled out and should the Great Reset, which I believe to be about crushing humanity and freedom, come to pass.

Timberrrrrrrr

Quiner wrote: »

The trial was a great success in that small Roscommon town. So it should also be a great success in the other places they're trialling it in.

It's not constant fear. It's fear of Health Passport Ireland and the Great Reset. But I don't let it consume me. I am making plans should Health Passport Ireland be rolled out and should the Great Reset, which I believe to be about crushing humanity and freedom, come to pass.

Whats your plans?

Quiner

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Whats your plans?

To live in a country that doesn't have health passports.

Quiner

Quiner wrote: »

To live in a country that doesn't have health passports.

So you plan to up and move to a new country purely based on nonsense you've read on the internet.
That would be very sad if true.
But it's probably not true.

Quiner

King Mob wrote: »

So you plan to up and move to a new country purely based on nonsense you've read on the internet.
That would be very sad if true.
But it's probably not true.

Nope. Based on Health Passport Ireland being successfully trialled across the country and being set to be rolled out in other countries. I don't want to live in a country that requires a green light to do anything and everything, based on the Health Passport Ireland promo video.

A warning from Richie Allen re health passports in the UK: https://twitter.com/1RichieAllen/status/1340599827684597763

So that's the UK ruled out.

Quiner

Quiner wrote: »

To live in a country that doesn't have health passports.

I imagine most countries you'd choose to emigrate to have requirements in terms of vaccines. There's a pretty long list for moving to the US for example. So being vaccinated for covid would be a requirement in all likelihood for a lot of countries...

Quiner

Deleted User wrote: »

I imagine most countries you'd choose to emigrate to have requirements in terms of vaccines. There's a pretty long list for moving to the US for example. So being vaccinated for covid would be a requirement in all likelihood for a lot of countries...

I have no problem with vaccines. None whatsoever.

It's the green, orange and red light Health Passport Ireland I have a problem with. That's where I draw the line.

Quiner

Quiner wrote: »

Nope. Based on Health Passport Ireland being successfully trialled across the country and being set to be rolled out in other countries. I don't want to live in a country that requires a green light to do anything and everything, based on the Health Passport Ireland promo video.
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Ok. So when are you moving?

Again, I do not believe that you are being genuine. You've been dishonest at every opportunity and I suspect this is the case here.

You aren't even motivated to read a book on the subject, yet you expect people to believe you're going to emigrate because of it?

You're talking nonsense.

Quiner

King Mob wrote: »

Ok. So when are you moving?

Again, I do not believe that you are being genuine. You've been dishonest at every opportunity and I suspect this is the case here.

You aren't even motivated to read a book on the subject, yet you expect people to believe you're going to emigrate because of it?

You're talking nonsense.

I said I've ordered the book. I'm going to read it.

Move next year, I hope. I want to see what happens first. We'll know in January and May what the story is with the Great Reset.

How have I been dishonest?

Quiner

Quiner wrote: »

I said I've ordered the book. I'm going to read it.

Move next year, I hope. I want to see what happens first. We'll know in January and May what the story is with the Great Reset.

Mm hmm.
You're lying.
You aren't going to do either of those things.

Quiner wrote: »

How have I been dishonest?

The lying. The dodging of questions. The general feigned ignorance and innocence.
The fact this isn't the first account you've posted under on this forum...

aido79

I never thought the quality of posts from conspiracy theorists could actually drop without Lex around but it's actually happened.

Timberrrrrrrr

Quiner wrote: »

To live in a country that doesn't have health passports.

You already do.

But which country do you think won't have them if (as claimed) this is a world wide conspiracy to reset us all and take all of our property?

Quiner

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You already do.

But which country do you think won't have them if (as claimed) this is a world wide conspiracy to reset us all and take all of our property?

For now, but Health Passport Ireland is on the way, based on the great success of the trial in Roscommon and the probable great success of the trial in other parts of the country.

Possibly Brazil. Maybe Mexico. It depends if the Great Reset is going to target the West specifically. We'll have an idea next month.

Fighting Tao

King Mob wrote: »

So you plan to up and move to a new country purely based on nonsense you've read on the internet.
That would be very sad if true.
But it's probably not true.

I think he/she is the second poster that said they would move in the last few days. Coincidence?

I can’t wait for our new overlords to care so much that they track when I take a jump to the left and then a step to the right with my hands on my hips and bring my knees in tight.

Quiner

aido79 wrote: »

I never thought the quality of posts from conspiracy theorists could actually drop without Lex around but it's actually happened.

What is your issue with the quality of the claims being made? Links have been provided. Sources have been provided or mentioned. What is your issue with the quality of the following tweet by Richie Allen:

https://twitter.com/1RichieAllen/status/1340599827684597763

Quiner

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I think he/she is the second poster that said they would move in the last few days. Coincidence?

I can’t wait for our new overlords to care so much that they track when I take a jump to the left and then a step to the right with my hands on my hips and bring my knees in tight.

Nope. Just people looking at what's going on re health passports (on top of the year of misery and economic ruin) and deciding that it's time to consider options. Nothing wrong with it.

Fighting Tao

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I think he/she is the second poster that said they would move in the last few days. Coincidence?

Yea. Sure are a lot of people who are obsessed with and terrified of the Great Reset yet haven't read the book.

runawaybishop

Quiner wrote: »

How have I been dishonest?

You have posted several false statements, as you are well aware.

aido79

Quiner wrote: »

What is your issue with the quality of the claims being made? Links have been provided. Sources have been provided or mentioned. What is your issue with the quality of the following tweet by Richie Allen:

https://twitter.com/1RichieAllen/status/1340599827684597763

It's some of the laziest half assed conspiracy theory stuff I've ever seen that you don't seem to even believe yourself. You're more worried about having an app on your phone than anything else and seem to be willing to keep moving to random countries around the world to avoid putting this app on your phone. I have no doubt that you will not leave Ireland because of this.

Quiner

aido79 wrote: »

It's some of the laziest half assed conspiracy theory stuff I've ever seen that you don't seem to even believe yourself. You're more worried about having an app on your phone than anything else and seem to be willing to keep moving to random countries around the world to avoid putting this app on your phone. I have no doubt that you will not leave Ireland because of this.

So nothing specific about the claims? I claimed that the figure of 1.5 million deaths of covid was inflated because of the way deaths are counted in England. Up until recently, anyone who died within 28 days of a positive covid test died of covid in England. That's true. Not sure what the problem with the quality of that claim or post is.

You make it sound like something insignificant. If, as the promo video for Health Passport Ireland suggests as a possibility, a green light is required to do anything and everything in Ireland then it would represent a massive change in freedom as it has been understood up to now in the West. Would you not agree? And if you're going to just reply with as hominems then there's no point.

It's interesting to discuss these things. Dismissing claims backed up with sources does nothing for discussion.

Quiner

Quiner wrote: »

So nothing specific about the claims? I claimed that the figure of 1.5 million deaths of covid was inflated because of the way deaths are counted in England. Up until recently, anyone who died within 28 days of a positive covid test died of covid in England. That's true. .

That's not true.
That's a big old lie.

At the same time we've been blue in the face asking conspiracy theorists to provide the real number and every single time, it's ignored.

You know why you guys are ignoring the question.
We know why you're ignoring the question.
Why pretend?

Quiner

King Mob wrote: »

That's not true.
That's a big old lie.

At the same time we've been blue in the face asking conspiracy theorists to provide the real number and every single time, it's ignored.

You know why you guys are ignoring the question.
We know why you're ignoring the question.
Why pretend?

So Hancock ordered an urgent review into nothing? Professor Carl Heneghan was lying when he wrote about people being counted as covid deaths who died within 28 days of testing positive for covid?

Quiner

Quiner wrote: »

So Hancock ordered an urgent review into nothing? Professor Carl Heneghan was lying when he wrote about people being counted as covid deaths who died within 28 days of testing positive for covid?

No. I'm going to assume it's your dishonest conspiracy interpretation of statements that actually don't say what you said. It's a common tactic.

How many people have died due to covid according to you?
How did you reach this number?
Why have you and other conspiracy theorists been ignoring this question?