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UK Air travel suspended for 48 hours from midnight *Mod Warning in OP Please Read*

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    #62
    Dempo1
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    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Why wouldn't he be the one to announce the travel ban? He is the Minster for Transport.

    I know and that in itself is shocking

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #63
    Fann Linn
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Scotland has closed its border with England, so there won't be any further "ordinary" travel to the island of Ireland by ferry (for people travelling from England) for the time being.


    Belfast to Liverpool ferries?


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    #64
    Man Vs ManUre
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    Brexit came early.


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    #65
    Aliya Dazzling Preschool
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    Man Vs ManUre wrote: »
    Brexit came early.

    Actually, still a year late.


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    #66
    Gradius
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I'm not sure what all the hulabaloo is tbh, it's been around for months. There's 13,000 mutations of SARS-COVI-2, each likely as infectious as the last.

    This one is different, and not in a good way.

    You'd expect some low-level mutations over a month or so. But this one is significantly different with many dodgy changes. For starters, this version is a lot more "sticky", and has less requirements for infection. Bad combination.

    It's fair to say that exposure to immuno-"different" individuals allows mutations to get a better grip of the situation. Like finding a half dead alien, it's much easier to figure out how best to kill it, rather than a fully kicking alien. Great analogy.

    I'd also hazard a guess that the greater mixture of different races of people in the likes of London allows more ammunition for the virus to become more effective too.


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    #67
    titan18
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    Whilst banning travel from the North will be problematic and likely unenforceable, doing it for flights makes sense. It eliminates most entries to the country and as the rest of the EU seem to be doing it, we don't want to stand separate imo


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    #68
    Saadyst
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    I literally got to the UK a couple of days ago to visit family for the first time this year, and was planning to go back in the coming days. Now it appears I could be stuck here indefinitely.

    I hope to hear more about this part soon - "Arrangements are being put in place to facilitate the repatriation of Irish residents on short trips to the UK and planning to return in the coming days"


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    #69
    [Deleted User]
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    Scotland have made it illegal to travel to anywhere else in the UK. Northern Ireland need to do the same thing too and ban flights and passenger ferries.


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    #70
    Aliya Dazzling Preschool
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Whilst banning travel from the North will be problematic and likely unenforceable, doing it for flights makes sense. It eliminates most entries to the country and as the rest of the EU seem to be doing it, we don't want to stand separate imo

    We’ll have to do something anyway.


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    #71
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    titan18 wrote: »
    Whilst banning travel from the North will be problematic and likely unenforceable, doing it for flights makes sense. It eliminates most entries to the country and as the rest of the EU seem to be doing it, we don't want to stand separate imo

    Scotland has already banned travel to England. Stormount is meeting at 9pm to decide whether or not to do the same. Apparently Arlene and Michelle are on the phone to "London" right now.

    We knew Christmas was going to be bad but it has been so much worse than expected.


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    #72
    ExMachina1000
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    Gradius wrote: »
    This one is different, and not in a good way.

    You'd expect some low-level mutations over a month or so. But this one is significantly different with many dodgy changes. For starters, this version is a lot more "sticky", and has less requirements for infection. Bad combination.

    It's fair to say that exposure to immuno-"different" individuals allows mutations to get a better grip of the situation. Like finding a half dead alien, it's much easier to figure out how best to kill it, rather than a fully kicking alien. Great analogy.

    I'd also hazard a guess that the greater mixture of different races of people in the likes of London allows more ammunition for the virus to become more effective too.

    38% of the population of London were born outside the UK with 2/3 of that figure born outside of Europe.

    A real melting pot of ethnicity.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/london-population


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    #73
    Gradius
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Whilst banning travel from the North will be problematic and likely unenforceable, doing it for flights makes sense. It eliminates most entries to the country and as the rest of the EU seem to be doing it, we don't want to stand separate imo

    "Literally impossible"

    "What about the peace agreement?!"

    Etc. Said it needed to happen months ago, met with 500 variations of the above. Well, maybe now we'll see.


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    #74
    Necro
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    38% of the population of London were born outside the UK with 2/3 of that figure born outside of Europe.

    A real melting pot of ethnicity.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/london-population

    Mod:

    Nope, that stuff is not relevant, keep it out of here - use the UK response thread


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    #75
    Aliya Dazzling Preschool
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    You know, if we’d all done this in the early days, we might have avoided the latter half of 2020 entirely. England has been a mess since day one but we allowed travel sight unseen.


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    #76
    [Deleted User]
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    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Belfast to Liverpool ferries?

    Ooops, yes indeed :(


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    #77
    titan18
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    GarIT wrote: »
    Scotland has already banned travel to England. Stormount is meeting at 9pm to decide whether or not to do the same. Apparently Arlene and Michelle are on the phone to "London" right now.

    We knew Christmas was going to be bad but it has been so much worse than expected.

    Ya, our only hope is they do it themselves. Us trying to ban travel north to south and vice versa will be impossible. At least with flights coming into the south, you're policing a small number of entry points and you can refuse flights from landing if needed


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    #78
    Gradius
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    38% of the population of London were born outside the UK with 2/3 of that figure born outside of Europe.

    A real melting pot of ethnicity.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/london-population

    It's theoretical of course, but it makes it much easier for the virus to learn a lot more quickly by such exposure.


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    #79
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Necro wrote: »
    Mod:

    Nope, that stuff is not relevant, keep it out of here

    Its fact. Those are the demographics of London.

    Whether it has anything to do with the strain of the virus is a different story. I'm not saying that it has. I'm not qualified to make the statement that you seem to think I'm making


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    #80
    Aliya Dazzling Preschool
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Ya, our only hope is they do it themselves. Us trying to ban travel north to south and vice versa will be impossible. At least with flights coming into the south, you're policing a small number of entry points and you can refuse flights from landing if needed

    Imagine the outage if we started stopping at the border.


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    #81
    GarIT
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Ya, our only hope is they do it themselves. Us trying to ban travel north to south and vice versa will be impossible. At least with flights coming into the south, you're policing a small number of entry points and you can refuse flights from landing if needed

    There are a few possibilities that had been mentioned before and not acted on. Like banning GB reg cars in Ireland, even for tourists/visitors. Some busses had been stopped during level 5. Trains could be stopped.


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    #82
    [Deleted User]
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    If the UK media report it hysterically there will be looting on the high streets of towns across England. I hope they rise above it and do their nation some service.


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    #83
    Necro
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    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Its fact. Those are the demographics of London.

    Whether it has anything to do with the strain of the virus is a different story. I'm not saying that it has. I'm not qualified to make the statement that you seem to think I'm making

    If it's not Covid or flight related, it's not relevant in the context of this thread


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    #84
    titan18
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    Gradius wrote: »
    "Literally impossible"

    "What about the peace agreement?!"

    Etc. Said it needed to happen months ago, met with 500 variations of the above. Well, maybe now we'll see.

    I mean, outside of the legality, the border can't be policed. You can setup checkpoints on the main roads sure but there's too many entry points to stop traffic on them all. Trying to get them to align with us is probably easier than stopping all movement across the border and we all know getting them so align with us is like slamming your head off the wall.


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    #85
    ExMachina1000
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    Necro wrote: »
    If it's not Covid or flight related, it's not relevant in the context of this thread

    Fair enough


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    #86
    SleetAndSnow
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    titan18 wrote: »
    I mean, outside of the legality, the border can't be policed. You can setup checkpoints on the main roads sure but there's too many entry points to stop traffic on them all. Trying to get them to align with us is probably easier than stopping all movement across the border and we all know getting them so align with us is like slamming your head off the wall.

    These are the type of people you're dealing with

    https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/1340702154168950786?s=20


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    #87
    Jinglejangle69
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    What's the idea of 48 hours???

    I thought the virus lasts 14 days.


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    #88
    odyssey06
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Imagine the outage if we started stopping at the border.

    If Scotland can close border with England we need to close ours with the North - unless the shut off transit to England.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #89
    SleetAndSnow
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    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    What's the idea of 48 hours???

    I thought the virus lasts 14 days.

    Cabinet meeting on Tuesday to discuss extending it.


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    #90
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    These are the type of people you're dealing with

    https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/1340702154168950786?s=20

    "Dublin government and flights to the republic"
    Madness. It's the Irish government and flights to Ireland.


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    #91
    TheValeyard
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    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    These are the type of people you're dealing with

    https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/1340702154168950786?s=20

    Time to stop Trains, buses and temporary ban on taxis travelling across. Make life difficult.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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