Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

Kermit.de.frog · 19-12-2020 03:56PM

boombang wrote: »

I know some vehemently disagree, but I think many will look on this comparison and conclude Tony and co took us down the right path.

It's saved lives.

vafankillar · 19-12-2020 06:53PM

has anyone actually heard of many pubs announcing they are shutting down? there's been scaremongering all year as if we're going to loss every pub in ireland but so fair i've only heard of one or two

MadYaker · 19-12-2020 06:59PM

How come more pubs aren't going bust? I haven't noticed any ceasing trading in Galway. I have friends who work in the pub trade here, some have been shut the whole way through but plan to open next summer. How do they pay their rent?

Pintman Paddy Losty · 19-12-2020 07:40PM

Those two graphs say it all.

I'm glad our society prioritised people lives over a few sad piss artists who miss the pub. It's as simple as that.

Tony Holohan and NPHET are absolute heroes. Hopefully the government listen to them yet again.

Zebra3 · 19-12-2020 07:44PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Those two graphs say it all.

I'm glad our society prioritised people lives over a few sad piss artists who miss the pub. It's as simple as that.

Tony Holohan and NPHET are absolute heroes. Hopefully the government listen to them yet again.

Can you back up your claim that it's due to pubs?

Pintman Paddy Losty · 19-12-2020 08:28PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Can you back up your claim that it's due to pubs?

Listen my friend. You don't need a scientific study to show that a poorly ventilated space where people spend hours on end imbibing a substance known to reduce inhibitions is a disaster when it comes to spreading a virus. That's just common sense my friend. No proof needed.

beggars_bush · 19-12-2020 10:17PM

Couldn't believe the crowds outside some pubs in town earlier
Smoking, queuing to get in.

ShamNNspace · 19-12-2020 10:31PM

The beast is amongst us

Irish Steve · 19-12-2020 10:32PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Listen my friend. You don't need a scientific study to show that a poorly ventilated space where people spend hours on end imbibing a substance known to reduce inhibitions is a disaster when it comes to spreading a virus. That's just common sense my friend. No proof needed.

The only proof that some posters here might accept would be some form of magic lantern device that would illuminate Virus particles in the air, and even then they'd be finding some wierd excuse why their favourite wet pub should be open, despite all the compelling evidence to the contrary.

PommieBast · 19-12-2020 10:37PM

MadYaker wrote: »

How come more pubs aren't going bust? I haven't noticed any ceasing trading in Galway. I have friends who work in the pub trade here, some have been shut the whole way through but plan to open next summer. How do they pay their rent?

With so many Dublin pubs boarded up since March it is hard to tell which ones will and will not be coming back. For the time being there is not much motivation on the part of landlords/creditors to kick off reposession/bankruptcy procedures.

Drifter50 · 19-12-2020 11:38PM

PommieBast wrote: »

With so many Dublin pubs boarded up since March it is hard to tell which ones will and will not be coming back. For the time being there is not much motivation on the part of landlords/creditors to kick off reposession/bankruptcy procedures.

Yes, I`m afraid you are right, there are closed up establishments throughout the entire country which are in limbo. Its a bigger issue in rural areas where realistically not so many of them will reopen. Remember these publicans will be going to their banks and asking for a loan to get moving again or at least an overdraft. It is probably likely that they will need to install some sort of kitchen to get trading again. When the banker asks for a proposal showing income for the last 3 years and projections for the next year what does the publican produce. That is not a justifiable business proposition for a bank so therefore a lot of the rural pubs will fail
I was out last evening and the manager told me they are closing next Thursday and will not open again untill there is a clear pathway to opening again. They simply cannot operate with the uncertainty that is there at the moment. If they order supplies and arrange staff to come in how sure are they that they will be allowed trade

Beasty · 19-12-2020 11:46PM

ShamNNspace wrote: »

The beast is amongst us

....and you had better behave yourselves

:pac:

LuasSimon · 19-12-2020 11:59PM

The new Covid strain is been brought in to our Airports tonight as the planes land from Stanstead and Heathrow.

Those punters home from London will give it to plenty when they call to the local Gastro Pub , numbers are going to go through the roof in coming fortnight!

mean gene · 20-12-2020 12:06AM

LuasSimon wrote: »

The new Covid strain is been brought in to our Airports tonight as the planes land from Stanstead and Heathrow.

Those punters home from London will give it to plenty when they call to the local Gastro Pub , numbers are going to go through the roof in coming fortnight!

its in the uk since last september its well here already

20-12-2020 12:09AM

LuasSimon wrote: »

The new Covid strain is been brought in to our Airports tonight as the planes land from Stanstead and Heathrow.

Those punters home from London will give it to plenty when they call to the local Gastro Pub , numbers are going to go through the roof in coming fortnight!

Holohan wouldn't dream of pointing out the obvious, it doesn't neatly fit with his ambition of hammering the hospitality sector into submission. Pubs are the bogeyman, despite there being virtually no cases attributed to them since December 1st. Easy target for the uninformed and downright ignorant to aim at.

Neowise · 20-12-2020 12:13AM

LuasSimon wrote: »

The new Covid strain is been brought in to our Airports tonight as the planes land from Stanstead and Heathrow.

Those punters home from London will give it to plenty when they call to the local Gastro Pub , numbers are going to go through the roof in coming fortnight!

Travelers have to self isolate for two weeks, so it will be at least 2 weeks plus incubation period, so 3 weeks before we see new strain here in ireland.

mightyreds · 20-12-2020 12:13AM

LuasSimon wrote: »

The new Covid strain is been brought in to our Airports tonight as the planes land from Stanstead and Heathrow.

Those punters home from London will give it to plenty when they call to the local Gastro Pub , numbers are going to go through the roof in coming fortnight!

Was chatting to a guy earlier who caught covid in the last lockdown, he said he caught it onsite and it was caught from 11 employee's flying in from London on a Monday and flying home on Friday , 40 people onsite caught it from those 11.

utyh2ikcq9z76b · 20-12-2020 12:17AM

Neowise wrote: »

Travelers have to self isolate for two weeks, so it will be at least 2 weeks plus incubation period, so 3 weeks before we see new strain here in ireland.

Nobody is self isolating for the two weeks over the Xmas they have flown home for

PommieBast · 20-12-2020 12:38AM

Drifter50 wrote: »

Remember these publicans will be going to their banks and asking for a loan to get moving again or at least an overdraft. It is probably likely that they will need to install some sort of kitchen to get trading again. When the banker asks for a proposal showing income for the last 3 years and projections for the next year what does the publican produce. That is not a justifiable business proposition for a bank so therefore a lot of the rural pubs will fail

I suspect a lot have already approached their banks, possibly multiple times. I suspect that Covid-related debt may well be a stability issue for Irish banks in the near future.

harmless · 20-12-2020 12:46AM

Neowise wrote: »

Travelers have to self isolate for two weeks, so it will be at least 2 weeks plus incubation period, so 3 weeks before we see new strain here in ireland.

This is good as most travelers in my area do not use masks.

beggars_bush wrote: »

Couldn't believe the crowds outside some pubs in town earlier
Smoking, queuing to get in.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/843227924

Skip to 1 hr 40 mins

Anyone who has stayed at home can see what they're missing

Ish66 · 20-12-2020 05:41AM

Temple Bar , 11pm,Sat, 5 hours ago

20-12-2020 05:59AM

Neowise wrote: »

Travelers have to self isolate

"have to" is not enforced.

I know personally of two people who have been to the UK and back twice already in the last 3 months, and are heading over again for Christmas. No isolation, no tests, nothing. Straight from the airport to a cafe. Idiots.

The government haven't made anything mandatory. The cost of a mandatory test before you get on the plane would have halted these two, but like many others, they couldn't give a sh/te and there's no punishment.

hynesie08 · 20-12-2020 12:51PM

Ish66 wrote: »

Temple Bar , 11pm,Sat, 5 hours ago

"Area with pubs crowded at kick out time"

harmless · 20-12-2020 01:23PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

"Area with pubs crowded at kick out time"

Exactly, what doe people expect now that you don't need to order a meal so table service is not necessary.

There is no way there would be a crowd like this if it was table service only.

PTH2009 · 20-12-2020 01:27PM

harmless wrote: »

Exactly, what doe people expect now that you don't need to order a meal so table service is not necessary.

There is no way there would be a crowd like this if it was table service only.

You still have to order a meal

hynesie08 · 20-12-2020 01:28PM

harmless wrote: »

Exactly, what doe people expect now that you don't need to order a meal so table service is not necessary.

There is no way there would be a crowd like this if it was table service only.

What?

harmless · 20-12-2020 01:31PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

You still have to order a meal

Yes but as seen from many of the videos you don't need table service to order.

It wouldn't get so packed if a full meal and table service was a requirement.

ginoginelli · 20-12-2020 01:40PM

harmless wrote: »

Yes but as seen from many of the videos you don't need table service to order.

It wouldn't get so packed if a full meal and table service was a requirement.

The owners are irresponsible scumbags. They should be shut down, the governments lack of enforcement on this does nothing but enable this type of dangerous behaviour.

AdrianBalboa · 20-12-2020 02:02PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Listen my friend. You don't need a scientific study to show that a poorly ventilated space where people spend hours on end imbibing a substance known to reduce inhibitions is a disaster when it comes to spreading a virus. That's just common sense my friend. No proof needed.

It is just common sense.

It’s hilarious that the members of the “open the pubs” brigade think they’re entitled to waste everyone’s time asking for scientific articles proving that pubs are bad for spreading the virus. It’s patently obvious how much of a disaster things would be if they were allowed to slobber all over each other when there’s a highly infectious virus running loose this winter.

Incidentally I notice one particular “open the pubster” has been very quiet this weekend. Hopefully he isn’t in some Gallic speakeasy in the midwest, enjoying a lock in with Pepe le Pew and Jean Fraud. Them pretending to be his grande amis, debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

MadYaker · 20-12-2020 02:07PM

harmless wrote: »

Exactly, what doe people expect now that you don't need to order a meal so table service is not necessary.

There is no way there would be a crowd like this if it was table service only.

If we weren't a country of morons there'd be no crowds at all.

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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