Do dating 'leagues' exist?

17-12-2020 11:42PM

Mickey_James wrote: »

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Like here in Ireland, the argie women go mad for me. I am on tinder and I can't get a match with an irish woman, it's all south americans and many of them are crackers!

Mad for a visa, more like :pac:

17-12-2020 11:42PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Nancy Boy

Alcoholic kind of mood
Lose my clothes
Lose my lube
Cruising for a piece of fun
Looking out for number one

anewme · 17-12-2020 11:46PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This post tells me a lot about you. And you might not like what I have to say.

It tells me that you think everyone is as shallow as you.

You wouldn't date an unattractive low earning guy. So you can't imagine why others might.

That tells me you are shallow. You also think everyone thinks the same as you. Which tells me you can't relate and understand others as its fairly clear that other people don't think this way.

I am NOT suggesting you or anyone here is an INCEL or misogynistic. I haven't seen any evidence of this in your post.

But this video reveals several key points about elliot that relate to your post. It says that basically Elliot did everything he could to TRY and appear attractive. He pretended to be rich and focused on his appearance. And he really believed he was doing everything RIGHT to attract women. So much so he couldn't see what he was doing wrong. This is because he couldn't see how others felt and thought.

Not being able to understand people ..would be a huge barrier to dating imo.

Poster is banned. came across as obvious re reg.

ILoveYourVibes · 17-12-2020 11:47PM

anewme wrote: »

Poster is banned. came across as obvious re reg.

So I see. I had not noticed.

completedit · 18-12-2020 12:35AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This post tells me a lot about you. And you might not like what I have to say.

It tells me that you think everyone is as shallow as you.

You wouldn't date an unattractive low earning guy. So you can't imagine why others might.

That tells me you are shallow. You also think everyone thinks the same as you. Which tells me you can't relate and understand others as its fairly clear that other people don't think this way.

I am NOT suggesting you or anyone here is an INCEL or misogynistic. I haven't seen any evidence of this in your post.

But this video reveals several key points about elliot that relate to your post. It says that basically Elliot did everything he could to TRY and appear attractive. He pretended to be rich and focused on his appearance. And he really believed he was doing everything RIGHT to attract women. So much so he couldn't see what he was doing wrong. This is because he couldn't see how others felt and thought.

Not being able to understand people ..would be a huge barrier to dating imo.

I was on one of the forums Rodger was on in 2014. Weird thing is, at one time I related with his thought patterns, even still 8 years later I slip back into them. I actually watched this video before he went on and did the murder. For like 2 weeks beforehand, I had been watching them and found them equally hilarious yet relatable. Like Rodger, I couldn't understand why girls didn't like me, yet liked other guys. But Grande mentions a 'lack of insight', and that pretty much nails it. Rodger viewed everything and everyone through his own lens and was unable to detach himself from his warped reality. He saw what he wanted to see and in the end, went down a slope that resulted in 6 young people losing their lives.

ILoveYourVibes · 18-12-2020 12:39AM

completedit wrote: »

I was on one of the forums Rodger was on in 2014. Weird thing is, at one time I related with his thought patterns, even still 8 years later I slip back into them. I actually watched this video before he went on and did the murder. For like 2 weeks beforehand, I had been watching them and found them equally hilarious yet relatable. Like Rodger, I couldn't understand why girls didn't like me, yet liked other guys. But Grande mentions a 'lack of insight', and that pretty much nails it. Rodger viewed everything and everyone through his own lens and was unable to detach himself from his warped reality. He saw what he wanted to see and in the end, went down a slope that resulted in 6 young people losing their lives.

If only someone had talked to him. Been with him.

Taught him how to control his emotions and not focus on the negative ones.

We can do better.

See the truth is ...i can't relate to roger at all.....and THAT ...is my flaw.

My life experience is limited. I can't relate to a lot of men who feel excluded or alienated.

I cannot relate to them ...as much as they cannot relate to women in a way.

We all live life through our own lens.

completedit · 18-12-2020 12:42AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

If only someone had talked to him. Been with him.

Taught him how to control his emotions and not focus on the negative ones.

We can do better.

I don't think it would have appeased him. I don't think he was ever going to 'get' the type of girl he wanted. He wanted the stereotypical sorority girl and it just wasn't going to happen. I also think he would have just been equally toxic in a relationship. Contrary to my first point though, I remember speaking to a very hot girl in a bar in Santa Barbara who read his manifesto. If only he knew.

ILoveYourVibes · 18-12-2020 12:48AM

completedit wrote: »

I don't think it would have appeased him. I don't think he was ever going to 'get' the type of girl he wanted. He wanted the stereotypical sorority girl and it just wasn't going to happen. I also think he would have just been equally toxic in a relationship. Contrary to my first point though, I remember speaking to a very hot girl in a bar in Santa Barbara who read his manifesto. If only he knew.

In that present state of mind he would have been equally toxic in a relationship sure. He would have been an abuser and perhaps even killed his partner to be honest.

But with counseling ....and therapy .....he might have stopped wanting a relationship and actually developed mentally and emotionally.

Insect Overlord · 18-12-2020 02:03AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Alcoholic kind of mood
Lose my clothes
Lose my lube
Cruising for a piece of fun
Looking out for number one

Different partner every night
So narcotic
Out of sight
What a gas!
What a beautiful ass...

M.T. Cranium · 18-12-2020 02:16AM

Welcome to match of the day, it's fourth division M.T. Cranium playing premier league Sara McHottie for a spot in the finals, after miraculous finishes against other higher ranking opponents, can M.T. Cranium find a way through or ...

... well it was all too good to be true, M.T. Cranium clearly out of his league here with Sara McHottie on her phone to her friends seven times in the first half ...

... just playing this one out now, two taxis pulling up outside the restaurant ...

... well done Sara McHottie, you're going to the F.A. Cup where you'll meet Brandon Studley-Jones, last year's winner in extra time.

18-12-2020 02:22AM

Magic of the cup

of tea at hers the next morning, trevor

BorneTobyWilde · 18-12-2020 02:26AM

Some people have the sense not to even try telling someone they really like them, as they know it would be pointless.

Church on Tuesday · 18-12-2020 12:54PM

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

Welcome to match of the day, it's fourth division M.T. Cranium playing premier league Sara McHottie for a spot in the finals, after miraculous finishes against other higher ranking opponents, can M.T. Cranium find a way through or ...

... well it was all too good to be true, M.T. Cranium clearly out of his league here with Sara McHottie on her phone to her friends seven times in the first half ...

... just playing this one out now, two taxis pulling up outside the restaurant ...

... well done Sara McHottie, you're going to the F.A. Cup where you'll meet Brandon Studley-Jones, last year's winner in extra time.

It was a plucky effort all the same, you just never know what will happen in a one off cup situation.

Quantum Erasure · 18-12-2020 02:53PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Some people have the sense not to even try telling someone they really like them, as they know it would be pointless.

Every you, Every me

18-12-2020 08:49PM

They exist alright,though not as much based on looks as preceived........it usually includes other preferences aswell (college educated,no kids etc etc)

I will say,that on a purely superficial looks based only level,ive often seen women go out with less attractive men,but almost never vice versa

18-12-2020 11:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I will say,that on a purely superficial looks based only level,ive often seen women go out with less attractive men,but almost never vice versa

I have. There will be some kind of compromise involved if it's about appearance. A beautiful face and not do great body, or a plain/ugly face but incredible body. Or simply the guy has convinced himself that she's gorgeous, while all his friends think he's nuts.

I've been there myself. My ex.. I thought she was stunning.. I still do. Great smile, gorgeous eyes, nice slim body. Hmm.. yum. But my friends? haha.. God no, they thought her to be very plain and not very attractive at the best of times. Did it matter? Not in the slightest. We are with those we want... for our own reasons.

Also I've found there's a lot of guys out there who will be with a "less than attractive" woman for other reasons, such as wealth, comfort, etc. It's not just various women who seek relationships for supportive reasons. Maybe it happens less so in Ireland.. but it's common enough in Asia, and the US.

Sardonicat · 19-12-2020 12:59AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have. There will be some kind of compromise involved if it's about appearance. A beautiful face and not do great body, or a plain/ugly face but incredible body. Or simply the guy has convinced himself that she's gorgeous, while all his friends think he's nuts.

I've been there myself. My ex.. I thought she was stunning.. I still do. Great smile, gorgeous eyes, nice slim body. Hmm.. yum. But my friends? haha.. God no, they thought her to be very plain and not very attractive at the best of times. Did it matter? Not in the slightest. We are with those we want... for our own reasons.

Also I've found there's a lot of guys out there who will be with a "less than attractive" woman for other reasons, such as wealth, comfort, etc. It's not just various women who seek relationships for supportive reasons. Maybe it happens less so in Ireland.. but it's common enough in Asia, and the US.

Does love feature as a reason anywhere with you?

Church on Tuesday · 19-12-2020 01:17AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Does love feature as a reason anywhere with you?

Love is seen as a nonsense to some.

19-12-2020 10:50AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Does love feature as a reason anywhere with you?

Sure, it does... but love is dependent on that individual. We all have different perspectives of what love entails. Every person I've loved.. I've loved in different ways.. and just because you love someone, it doesn't mean that it's reciprocated.

Besides which, you don't love someone the instant you meet them. You still have the drivers of attraction, which will be based on your desires, which may be physical, emotional, monetary, or whatever. Even the idea of "love at first sight" is based off physical attraction.

completedit · 19-12-2020 11:45AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Sure, it does... but love is dependent on that individual. We all have different perspectives of what love entails. Every person I've loved.. I've loved in different ways.. and just because you love someone, it doesn't mean that it's reciprocated.

Besides which, you don't love someone the instant you meet them. You still have the drivers of attraction, which will be based on your desires, which may be physical, emotional, monetary, or whatever. Even the idea of "love at first sight" is based off physical attraction.

It's very strange to think about and I have struggle reconciling this. It's not that only looks matter but looks is like a foot in the door. Doesn't mean the girl needs to be a model, although I'll tend to view them as extremely attractive if am attracted to them. I've seen on Boards in the past people say how they like 'real women' or some other such insulting platitude which to me, if I was the wife or girlfriend, would be reason enough for me to leave the lad. The 'real' women is always used to suggest the women is not conventionally attractive.

19-12-2020 01:05PM

seamus wrote: »

Look even at Hugh Hefner. Infamous for his devotion to free love and polyamoury, even in his older years he sought a more sedate life with longer-term partners.
Even Hefner is an outsider in terms of rich men and their trophy wives.

Hugh Hefner was madly in love with his first wife and she cheated on him several times. That's why he went a different route after his divorce.

19-12-2020 01:22PM

completedit wrote: »

I've seen on Boards in the past people say how they like 'real women' or some other such insulting platitude which to me, if I was the wife or girlfriend, would be reason enough for me to leave the lad. The 'real' women is always used to suggest the women is not conventionally attractive.

TBH I don't know what that means. A "real woman". They're all real. It just depends on whether your boxes are being ticked.

FintanMcluskey · 19-12-2020 01:28PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Love is seen as a nonsense to some.

It’s certainly not nonsense.

It’s a biological reaction that compels sufferer’s to procreate to ensure the survival of the species.

It’s a rather fleeting emotion though in a lot of cases

Church on Tuesday · 19-12-2020 01:52PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

It’s certainly not nonsense.

It’s a biological reaction that compels sufferer’s to procreate to ensure the survival of the species.

It’s a rather fleeting emotion though in a lot of cases

Good God.

Going by some replies to this thread, you'd swear you where reading the text to a David Attenborough species documentary. Profoundly odd.

No wonder some struggle to get dates.

19-12-2020 02:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

TBH I don't know what that means. A "real woman". They're all real. It just depends on whether your boxes are being ticked.

I think that term is often used as a defense by some women who feel they aren't attractive or fitting in to some kind of ideal. Its very prevalent when it comes to weight. I'm 5'4, wear glasses, a few soft bits, a woman who is 5'10 and built like a supermodel is every bit as real as I am.
We just look different.

19-12-2020 02:19PM

haha. I'm still none the wiser... but then there's all manner of beliefs/arguments I find to be bizarre.

FintanMcluskey · 19-12-2020 02:22PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Good God.

Going by some replies to this thread, you'd swear you where reading the text to a David Attenborough species documentary. Profoundly odd.

No wonder some struggle to get dates.

People really take life and themselves way to seriously.

We will be dead for a long time.

Surreptitious · 19-12-2020 02:36PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Good God.

Going by some replies to this thread, you'd swear you where reading the text to a David Attenborough species documentary. Profoundly odd.

No wonder some struggle to get dates.

Taking the while thing too seriously. It's supposed to be fun!

Patsy167 · 19-12-2020 03:13PM

I remember seeing some science study showing that the greatest predictor/correlation among couples is levels of self-esteem. Takeaway being that it is how you see yourself that counts when finding a match. If you see yourself as a 9.5, you have every chance of matching with a 9.5

paleoperson · 21-12-2020 04:01PM

harrymcgowan wrote: »

Some say they do and others don't. Basically can an unattractive, low earning guy score an attractive high earning woman?

Nobody EVER says an unattractive low earning guy can score an attractive high earning woman. Ever. I mean you'd be hard-pressed to find an attractive man scoring an attractive high-earning woman, but unattractive? Get outta here. Trying to imagine any way it could happen - his social cred and influence would have to be through the roof. Another possibility is they could have met before she became high-earning and always liked him but that's different to the spirit of your question.

Leagues are not the same as what you're suggesting at all. People have a negative reaction to the cliched idea of dating "leagues" which you seem to have latched onto so you brought that up to try to reaffirm your hope that it doesn't matter and get people to say leagues are stupid and hence reaffirm you're right.

Leagues are more that people would be split into like 5 leagues even when similar age/earning potential and people wouldn't budge out of their league, that's why the leagues idea is frowned on. Trying to use this as a springboard to claim an attractive, high earning woman would go with an unattractive low-earning man is silly.

I appreciate your optimism and faith in human romance but it don't work like that kiddo.

Do dating 'leagues' exist?

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