COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

Necro · 18-12-2020 7:39pm #1

So the approval of the vaccine is almost upon us, indeed approved in some countries already (and the old thread was nearing 10k posts)

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ACitizenErased · 18-12-2020 7:52pm

Am I right in saying the first EMA meeting is Monday? Does anyone know if it will be approved there and then?

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 7:57pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Am I right in saying the first EMA meeting is Monday? Does anyone know if it will be approved there and then?

I could have this wrong but I believe the approval process i read the other day was EMA give the green light and EU commission is the one that then signs off on it shortly after. Much like the FDA get the advisory committee first, they recommend approval then FDA signs off.

ACitizenErased · 18-12-2020 8:01pm

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I could have this wrong but I believe the approval process i read the other day was EMA give the green light and EU commission is the one that then signs off on it shortly after. Much like the FDA get the advisory committee first, they recommend approval then FDA signs off.

I assume the commission plan to meet Tuesday or Wednesday hopefully

alchemist33 · 18-12-2020 8:01pm

I got the vaccine earlier in NI and someone asked about the rollout. It's carehome staff and residents first, then the next round is staff in high risk hospital wards (ICU, respiratory wards), staff in primary care centres dealing with covid, staff in mental health inpatient units, other staff who are vulnerable including BAME folks.

Marhay70 · 18-12-2020 8:11pm

I can't remember but has there been any instances of vaccine being given to people who had already contracted Covid and what was the result?

Necro · 18-12-2020 8:12pm

Marhay70 wrote: »

I can't remember but has there been any instances of vaccine being given to people who had already contracted Covid and what was the result?

Hoping to find that out myself

Cork2021 · 18-12-2020 8:30pm

Necro wrote: »

Hoping to find that out myself

Should people who’ve had confirmed COVID be at the back of the queue?

nommm · 18-12-2020 8:32pm

Marhay70 wrote: »

I can't remember but has there been any instances of vaccine being given to people who had already contracted Covid and what was the result?

The Pfizer trial included people who had already been infected. No adverse impact. The others probably did aswell.

Micky 32 · 18-12-2020 8:34pm

To qoute Dr Fauci today regarding the vaccines “ Come January, February, March, that light at the end of the tunnel will get brighter and brighter...”

Marhay70 · 18-12-2020 8:36pm

nommm wrote: »

The Pfizer trial included people who had already been infected. No adverse impact. The others probably did aswell.

But did it have any beneficial effect?

Necro · 18-12-2020 8:48pm

Cork2021 wrote: »

Should people who’ve had confirmed COVID be at the back of the queue?

I'd say no personally, but some might consider me selfish. Just stick to the groups as already assigned imo, trying to break them into 'have had Covid' and 'have not had Covid' would over-complicate things.

aziz · 18-12-2020 8:53pm

How will we know the vaccine is working, will the survival rate go from 99.7% to 99.8%

Ce he sin · 18-12-2020 8:59pm

aziz wrote: »

How will we know the vaccine is working, will the survival rate go from 99.7% to 99.8%

Ask the families and friends of the 2,000 plus people who have died of Covid in Ireland.

odyssey06 · 18-12-2020 9:01pm

Ce he sin wrote: »

Ask the families and friends of the 2,000 plus people who have died of Covid in Ireland.

Or the thousands saved in ICU.

Gael23 · 18-12-2020 9:36pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

To qoute Dr Fauci today regarding the vaccines “ Come January, February, March, that light at the end of the tunnel will get brighter and brighter...”

But not in Ireland

Polar101 · 18-12-2020 9:42pm

Cork2021 wrote: »

Should people who’ve had confirmed COVID be at the back of the queue?

I'd say no, they could still be in a vulnerable group - and it's probably more trouble than it's worth to separate people into even more groups. Not sure if there are enough "already had it" -people to make a big difference in the speed of the vaccinations, anyway.

Micky 32 · 18-12-2020 9:46pm

Gael23 wrote: »

But not in Ireland

Where did i say Ireland? :rolleyes: it was about a general comment regarding vaccines.

Stormyteacup · 18-12-2020 9:50pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Or the thousands saved in ICU.

Do you mean people saved in ICU who were Covid positive, or non-Covid related admittances to ICU? There were approx 650 people who tested positive for Covid admitted to ICU.

odyssey06 · 18-12-2020 9:56pm

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Do you mean people saved in ICU who were Covid positive, or non-Covid related admittances to ICU? There were approx 650 people who tested positive for Covid admitted to ICU.

Both. The battle against covid is to keep our hospitals functioning without being overwhelmed with covid patients... so vaccines have a clear role there.

daydorunrun · 18-12-2020 10:07pm

I’ve been trawling the old thread looking for a link to a nasal spray that supposedly offers some protection against Covid, can anybody help me out? Can’t remember the name of it.

[Deleted User] · 18-12-2020 10:22pm

https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/moderna-ends-frozen-requirements-for-vaccine-easing-logistics-of-shipping-1.5237239

Moderna have said their vaccine is no longer required to be kept frozen when shipped locally. It can be kept refrigerated between 2-8°C. That will make a huge difference logistically.

noserider · 18-12-2020 10:30pm

daydorunrun wrote: »

I’ve been trawling the old thread looking for a link to a nasal spray that supposedly offers some protection against Covid, can anybody help me out? Can’t remember the name of it.

Taffix

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 10:45pm

Hardyn wrote: »

https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/moderna-ends-frozen-requirements-for-vaccine-easing-logistics-of-shipping-1.5237239

Moderna have said their vaccine is no longer required to be kept frozen when shipped locally. It can be kept refrigerated between 2-8°C. That will make a huge difference logistically.

Excellent news, will make rollout very easy

Polar101 · 18-12-2020 11:04pm

Belgian minister reveals how much the EU is paying for vaccines.. she wasn't supposed to.

Oxford/AstraZeneca: €1.78
Johnson & Johnson: $8.50
Sanofi/GSK: €7.56
Pfizer/BioNTech: €12
CureVac: €10
Moderna: $18

USA paying $4 for the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, but $15 for Moderna.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/18/belgian-minister-accidentally-tweets-eus-covid-vaccine-price-list

ACitizenErased · 18-12-2020 11:11pm

That 1.78 for Oxford's vaccine is unreal. The majority of people will be getting that one by the looks.

Cork2021 · 18-12-2020 11:27pm

Looks like vaccine no 2 for the UK before year Is out!!

https://twitter.com/telegraph/status/1340039267171639297?s=21

Doc07 · 18-12-2020 11:29pm

Marhay70 wrote: »

But did it have any beneficial effect?

Yes but the numbers who had Covid were small. The vaccine will likely be recommended for people who have had previous Covid

stephenjmcd · 18-12-2020 11:38pm

Cork2021 wrote: »

Looks like vaccine no 2 for the UK before year Is out!!

https://twitter.com/telegraph/status/1340039267171639297?s=21

No surprise they're looking to approve it ahead of Moderna, they hadn't even a deal done with them a few weeks ago, scrambled to get one when the efficency data was released.

As per Martin today we're looking Moderna and Oxford/AZ in January

Azatadine · 18-12-2020 11:52pm

Is this a concern in terms of vaccines (or just scaremongering)?

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340055216239030274?s=19

Goldengirl · 18-12-2020 11:56pm

Doc07 wrote: »

Yes but the numbers who had Covid were small. The vaccine will likely be recommended for people who have had previous Covid

And no guarantee of sustained immunity regardless of previous infection ( sorry Necro) so all should get it .

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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