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The Vaccine

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  • #1232
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Because there not any I can think of any
    With proper treatment and care vast majority will survive it

    I made an error in that post. I meant to type vaccine rather than virus.

    The virus is evidentially dangerous because it's already killed over a million people.

    You have not presented any rational reason to fear the vaccine beyond the ridiculous notions you believe.
    The vaccine will not make people infertile.
    The vaccine does not contain tracking technology
    The vaccine is not the mark of the best.


  • #1233
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    I made an error in that post. I meant to type vaccine rather than virus.

    The virus is evidentially dangerous because it's already killed over a million people.

    So Im lead to believe but I havent seen it

    I personally only know of 2 people who were diagnosed with it when it emerged first
    Both survived thankfully
    I have no doubt it will be bad for older and people suffering from other illness to contact it
    May lead to their deaths in some cases sadly but you cant avoid death it comes to us all
    Children are not in any danger which is a good thing
    lock downs will cause more harm than good in my opinion
    I went for a haircut I wore a mask out of repect to the lad cutting my hair not because I thought I was protecting him or myself
    Would wear one if require to use a business cant avoid it

    If it was like Spanish flu or something killing millions of young healthy people sure a vaccine would be the way to go

    As for Covid vaccine if people are scared by all means take the vaccine


  • #1234
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    Very soon you’ll start hearing about high profile people catching the deadly covid-19
    Politicians, celebrities, executives, millionaires etc

    it didnt take long, its not confirmed yet but its making the news everywhere

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/taoiseach-micheal-martin-taking-immediate-23182917

    Just enough to scare the masses into thinking we all need to be together on this and pull on the green jersey for the vaccine rollout because its not going away

    When the rest of the working population are being asked to work from home and do conf calls, he's swanning about the place exposing himself to this virus

    How irresponsible of him...!!!!!!!


  • #1235
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    enno99 wrote: »
    So Im lead to believe but I havent seen it

    I personally only know of 2 people who were diagnosed with it when it emerged first
    Both survived thankfully
    I have no doubt it will be bad for older and people suffering from other illness to contact it
    May lead to their deaths in some cases sadly but you cant avoid death it comes to us all
    Children are not in any danger which is a good thing
    lock downs will cause more harm than good in my opinion
    I went for a haircut I wore a mask out of repect to the lad cutting my hair not because I thought I was protecting him or myself
    Would wear one if require to use a business cant avoid it

    If it was like Spanish flu or something killing millions of young healthy people sure a vaccine would be the way to go

    As for Covid vaccine if people are scared by all means take the vaccine

    Simple question. If life went back to normal around the world tomorrow with nightclubs, concerts, sporting events and every other event where there is mass crowds what do you believe would happen?

    Do you think only old people would die? I'll humour you for a minute. Picture this...only older people become really ill with covid but lots of them at the same time so that the hospitals are at full capacity or over capacity with just older people. If it's possible to treat all of them then most will survive. Without treatment the number who will die goes up. Very soon it's not possible to treat all of the older people looking for medical assistance with covid. Now the hospitals can't take anymore patients and need to decide between older people with covid and car crash victims, cancer patients etc that hospitals deal with every day.
    How does this sound to you?


  • #1236
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    it didnt take long, its not confirmed yet but its making the news everywhere

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/taoiseach-micheal-martin-taking-immediate-23182917

    Just enough to scare the masses into thinking we all need to be together on this and pull on the green jersey for the vaccine rollout because its not going away

    When the rest of the working population are being asked to work from home and do conf calls, he's swanning about the place exposing himself to this virus

    How irresponsible of him...!!!!!!!

    Is this part of the conspiracy?


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  • #1237
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    it didnt take long, its not confirmed yet but its making the news everywhere

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/taoiseach-micheal-martin-taking-immediate-23182917

    Just enough to scare the masses into thinking we all need to be together on this and pull on the green jersey for the vaccine rollout because its not going away

    When the rest of the working population are being asked to work from home and do conf calls, he's swanning about the place exposing himself to this virus

    How irresponsible of him...!!!!!!!

    So what, Politicians, celebrities, executives, millionaires etc have already gotten covid19, months ago. This isnt news and it isnt part of a conspiracy.

    At least the other posters make an effort to post something interesting, you are posting irrelevant nonsense.


  • #1238
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    aido79 wrote: »
    Simple question. If life went back to normal around the world tomorrow with nightclubs, concerts, sporting events and every other event where there is mass crowds what do you believe would happen?

    Do you think only old people would die? I'll humour you for a minute. Picture this...only older people become really ill with covid but lots of them at the same time so that the hospitals are at full capacity or over capacity with just older people. If it's possible to treat all of them then most will survive. Without treatment the number who will die goes up. Very soon it's not possible to treat all of the older people looking for medical assistance with covid. Now the hospitals can't take anymore patients and need to decide between older people with covid and car crash victims, cancer patients etc that hospitals deal with every day.
    How does this sound to you?

    Scare mongering


  • #1239
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    enno99 wrote: »
    Scare mongering

    I see you came back with a highly intelligent and thought out answer. Well done.
    What makes you so sure our health system could cope with life returning to normal if it was to happen tomorrow?


  • #1240
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    aido79 wrote: »
    I see you came back with a highly intelligent and thought out answer. Well done.
    What makes you so sure our health system could cope with life returning to normal if it was to happen tomorrow?

    Old people are in and out of hospitals all the time
    Protect the elderly and vulnerable let others get on with their life


  • #1241
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Scare mongering

    It's just one lazy contrarian quip after another

    Health systems have already come close to reaching max capacity, if that happens, people die, not just of Covid but of other illnesses and accidents as they are unable to receive emergency treatment. The sheer ignorance on display in these threads never ceases to amaze.


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  • #1242
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,507 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    enno99 wrote: »
    Old people are in and out of hospitals all the time
    Protect the elderly and vulnerable let others get on with their life

    That is being done, and it has been proved that it is not fully effective. As is evident when restrictions are lifted the situation becomes worse for them because their contacts have more contacts. Opening everything up fully is giving them, and people with compromised immune systems a death sentence. But sure what the hell, let them die....that seems to be your mentality.


  • #1243
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's just one lazy contrarian quip after another

    Health systems have already come close to reaching max capacity, if that happens, people die, not just of Covid but of other illnesses and accidents as they are unable to receive emergency treatment. The sheer ignorance on display in these threads never ceases to amaze.

    I know I cant blame trump like you do for everything :rolleyes:


  • #1244
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    I know I cant blame trump like you do for everything :rolleyes:

    What are you talking about?
    dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's just one lazy contrarian quip after another

    Health systems have already come close to reaching max capacity, if that happens, people die, not just of Covid but of other illnesses and accidents as they are unable to receive emergency treatment. The sheer ignorance on display in these threads never ceases to amaze.

    Lol, where in this comment is any mention of Trump?


  • #1245
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    enno99 wrote: »
    Old people are in and out of hospitals all the time
    Protect the elderly and vulnerable let others get on with their life



    What's your solution to protecting the elderly? Keep them away from all contact with anyone who might infect them for the next few years?


  • #1246
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Once again, complete absence of conspiracies, an abundance of irrational and ignorant views.


  • #1247
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    That is being done, and it has been proved that it is not fully effective..

    Yea they wasted resources on leaflets scaring people healthy ,paying out covid relief payments

    Do you think people would just visit elderly people and not take precautions ?


  • #1248
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    So Im lead to believe but I havent seen it
    It's what the evidence shows.

    You've ignored the rest of my points because you can't address them.
    You're running away again.

    You are telling people to be afraid of the vaccine, yet you aren't able to explain why and have to claim ridiculous and obviously untrue things to scaremonger.

    Then when challenged on these claims and your dishonesty, you dodge and evade and run away.

    Why do you think you are convincing people with these cowardly and dishonest tactics?


  • #1249
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Once again, complete absence of conspiracies, an abundance of irrational and ignorant views.

    Yea an irrational fear of death and bugs can f**k with your mind

    As for CT why do you need it to be so cut and dry
    Cant we discuss the possibility that maybe there is more to what we are being told


  • #1250
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Yea an irrational fear of death and bugs can f**k with your mind
    Again, you are claiming that the vaccine claims things that will cause infertility and allow the government to track people. You also believe that the vaccine is the mark of the beast in biblical prophesy.


  • #1251
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Yea an irrational fear of death and bugs can f**k with your mind

    What are you talking about?

    Health systems were close to collapse. That's a fact. You've only offered mealy-mouthed quips in response, and didn't respond with anything remotely resembling logic or reason.
    Cant we discuss the possibility that maybe there is more to what we are being told

    Great, what is it?

    What is "really" going on then? enlighten us


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  • #1252
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    It's what the evidence shows.

    You've ignored the rest of my points because you can't address them.
    You're running away again.

    You are telling people to be afraid of the vaccine, yet you aren't able to explain why and have to claim ridiculous and obviously untrue things to scaremonger.

    Then when challenged on these claims and your dishonesty, you dodge and evade and run away.

    Why do you think you are convincing people with these cowardly and dishonest tactics?

    Million + didnt die of Covid
    Are you telling me a million + people would be alive today if Covid didnt exist

    See whos scaremongering and lying


  • #1253
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    King Mob wrote: »
    Again, you are claiming that the vaccine claims things that will cause infertility and allow the government to track people. You also believe that the vaccine is the mark of the beast in biblical prophesy.

    I think that's another poster, no?


  • #1254
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    enno99 wrote: »
    Yea an irrational fear of death and bugs can f**k with your mind

    As for CT why do you need it to be so cut and dry
    Cant we discuss the possibility that maybe there is more to what we are being told

    What are we not being told? We might get this conspiracy out into the open if you can answer that one question.


  • #1255
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Million + didnt die of Covid

    "The world isn't round, prove to me it is"

    You, and several others, constantly reject facts and info about the pandemic in order to goad posters into explaining something to you that you will never accept. If I e.g. don't want to believe the world is round, you'll never be able to explain it to me, because I can subjectively reject everything

    That's all you do here. It's extremely common on this forum, and is a technique.

    It's far simpler for you to tell us what's "really going on", but you weasel out of that every time.


  • #1256
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Million + didnt die of Covid
    But they did.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54334496

    You are lying by saying they didn't. You constantly lie to support your conspiracy theory.
    enno99 wrote: »
    See whos scaremongering and lying
    It's you guys who are claiming that the vaccine contains things that will depopulate the world, allow the government to track people and is part of a biblical prophesy.


  • #1257
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,507 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    enno99 wrote: »
    Yea they wasted resources on leaflets scaring people healthy ,paying out covid relief payments

    Do you think people would just visit elderly people and not take precautions ?

    My 10 year old nephew understands it, the dog on the street gets it, but you do not.


  • #1258
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    What are you talking about?

    Health systems were close to collapse. That's a fact. You've only offered mealy-mouthed quips in response, and didn't respond with anything remotely resembling logic or reason.



    According to the government Yet wards empty waiting for the big influx that never came

    Hospital admissions, which plummeted at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, are slowly bouncing back from a steep drop at the beginning of the year. But they'll still be down by year's end. The Kaiser Family Foundation finds that admissions will be down 10.5% for the full year, compared to 2019.

    https://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/news/hospital-admissions-projected-be-down-105-2020


  • #1259
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    But they did.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54334496

    You are lying by saying they didn't. You constantly lie to support your conspiracy theory.


    It's you guys who are claiming that the vaccine contains things that will depopulate the world, allow the government to track people and is part of a biblical prophesy.



    Not fond of answering questions are you

    Do you believe that a million + people would be alive today if Covid didnt exist

    Its an easy one


  • #1260
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Not fond of answering questions are you
    You've done nothing but dodge questions and points this entire thread.
    You are being a hypocrite.
    I've answered your question directly and clearly. I provided sources.

    You are now lying and claiming I didn't answer your question all the while dodging countless points put to you.


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  • #1261
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,961 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    enno99 wrote: »
    Not fond of answering questions are you

    Do you believe that a million + people would be alive today if Covid didnt exist

    Its an easy one

    Says the chap avoiding answering any questions on multiple threads!

    What a hypocrite!


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