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The Vaccine

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  • #1202
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    But they said it cold have more benefit than harm. Paraphrasing

    And there is tons of evidence

    Why aren't you providing it then?
    (Trump's twitter is not a peer reviewed journal btw)


  • #1203
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    enno99 wrote: »
    But they said it cold have more benefit than harm. Paraphrasing

    And there is tons of evidence

    No trials conducted.


  • #1204
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And if you had any knowledge of field, you'd know it's pretty much in its infancy so what you're proposing is simply not realistic in present day... Your lecturer would say as much if you asked him.

    notice that I wrote it in the future tense ....... but the Theragripers are real


  • #1205
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    notice that I wrote it in the future tense ....... but the Theragripers are real

    Never said they weren't but they're not gonna be in the covid vaccines so what relevance do they have to the discussion?


  • #1206
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,390 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Have you seen the 90 year old woman that is a hero for getting vaccinated with her two 30ish year old children ?
    247469249_2017413731748359_7675802031635703098_n.jpg

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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  • #1207
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    greenspurs wrote: »
    Have you seen the 90 year old woman that is a hero for getting vaccinated with her two 30ish year old children ?

    Did you also notice they both had different accents one Irish and the other english? She is great isnt she?


  • #1208
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Never said they weren't but they're not gonna be in the covid vaccines so what relevance do they have to the discussion?

    So what do you understand by a "digital certificate"?
    The Theragrippers are "available for licensing" so why not? You dont think its just another vaccine?


  • #1209
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    So what do you understand by a "digital certificate"?
    The Theragrippers are "available for licensing" so why not? You dont think its just another vaccine?

    do you have any evidence that thergrippers are used in any of the covid vaccines?


  • #1210
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    do you have any evidence that thergrippers are used in any of the covid vaccines?

    As much as you dont have that they wont. We are supposed to trust our government again?


  • #1211
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    As much as you dont have that they wont. We are supposed to trust our government again?

    so that's a no then. any evidence of the south koreans using ray guns to cull pigs?


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  • #1212
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    so that's a no then. any evidence of the south koreans using ray guns to cull pigs?

    There was a massive cull. can you prove they wont use Theragrippers? so that is a no then?


  • #1213
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    There was a massive cull.

    did it involve the use of ray guns as you said?
    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    can you prove they wont use Theragrippers? so that is a no then?

    theragrippers are for prolonged release of medication. why would they use that for a vaccine? and why would it bother you if they did? are theragrippers dangerous? It seems to me that you are terrified of something that you know nothing about. there is a word for that.


  • #1214
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    As much as you dont have that they wont. We are supposed to trust our government again?

    Do you realise how much of a tiny (possibly nano to use your terminology) fraction the Irish government part has in all of this? It really isn't even a thought for most people in the world apart from anti Irish government people like yourself. Or are you of the belief that all governments of the world are working together to conspire against us?


  • #1215
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    aido79 wrote: »
    Do you realise how much of a tiny (possibly nano to use your terminology) fraction the Irish government part has in all of this? It really isn't even a thought for most people in the world apart from anti Irish government people like yourself. Or are you of the belief that all governments of the world are working together to conspire against us?

    paranoia based on ignorance.


  • #1216
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    There was a massive cull. can you prove they wont use Theragrippers? so that is a no then?

    Are they using it in the covid vaccines that are going to be used for covid19? If not it's not relevant to this conversation and is just fantasy and not a conspiracy.

    Theragrippers are very much still in the research and development phase so maybe go back to your lecturer and ask him when they are likely to be a reality. While you're talking to him maybe ask to him explain what their future functions will be because you don't seem to understand that part.


  • #1217
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    paranoia based on ignorance.

    Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you ðŸ˜ðŸ˜


  • #1218
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    aido79 wrote: »
    lf. Or are you of the belief that all governments of the world are working together to conspire against us?

    Arent we all working towards a one world economy with open borders and where we will be happy in a wonderful utopia they are going to provide for us? It will be just like John Lennon dreamed about


  • #1219
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    There was a massive cull. can you prove they wont use Theragrippers? so that is a no then?

    Eh, what you've proposed is them sending out wireless signals in some way. They don't do anything like that. They don't utilise electricity and can't be externally controlled. So your proposed idea of them sending out data or whatever is sci-fi at this point in time.


  • #1220
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Arent we all working towards a one world economy with open borders and where we will be happy in a wonderful utopia they are going to provide for us? It will be just like John Lennon dreamed about

    Surely you're joking. Have you heard of a thing called Brexit? China and the US haven't been further apart from working towards a one world economy for a long time. Australia and China are falling out big time too at the minute. There's so much wrong with what you're thinking that I'm not sure it's possible for it to be explained to you.

    Are you basing your conspiracy on a song about communism written by a hippy over 40 years ago?


  • #1221
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    No trials conducted.

    https://hcqtrial.com/


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  • #1222
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    enno99 wrote: »
    https://hcqtrial.com/

    That is not a trial, it even says that in the opening sentence. 'effectively' - i.e not a trial.


  • #1223
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    https://hcqtrial.com/

    They don't exactly come across as reputable and most definitely are not peer reviewed on this topic. So no,a random website is not a source. It's also been debunked in terms of credibility.

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hcqtrial-com-astroturf-and-disinformation-about-hydroxychloroquine-and-covid-19-on-steroids/

    Also not remotely transparent in terms of who is running the website which in itself is concerning.


  • #1224
    aido79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    enno99 wrote: »
    https://hcqtrial.com/

    Seriously what is the fascination with hydroxychloroquine?
    Isn't prevention better than cure?
    This is like a soccer player trying to research the best cast for a broken leg because he won't wear shin guards because he is paranoid they are tracking his movements on the pitch even though he's on camera the whole time.


  • #1225
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    aido79 wrote: »
    Seriously what is the fascination with hydroxychloroquine?
    Isn't prevention better than cure?
    This is like a soccer player trying to research the best cast for a broken leg because he won't wear shin guards because he is paranoid they are tracking his movements on the pitch even though he's on camera the whole time.
    Also would love to see the large stack of long term studies used to show that it's effective against covid and that it is completely safe and free of side effects in the long term.

    Cause it would be massively hypocritical of people to demand these things for vaccines, yet not worry about them for this medicine.


  • #1226
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They don't exactly come across as reputable and most definitely are not peer reviewed on this topic. So no,a random website is not a source. It's also been debunked in terms of credibility.

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hcqtrial-com-astroturf-and-disinformation-about-hydroxychloroquine-and-covid-19-on-steroids/

    Also not remotely transparent in terms of who is running the website which in itself is concerning.

    Of course Gorski et al
    Cant have anyone putting out something contrary to his pay masters wishes


  • #1227
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Of course Gorski et al
    Cant have anyone putting out something contrary to his pay masters wishes

    You support a politician who proposed injecting disinfectant to cure Covid..

    What's your point here?


  • #1228
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »

    What's your point here?

    I wonder if given the choice how many would take HCQ thats been around for 70 yrs over a vaccine thats been around for 7 weeks


  • #1229
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    I wonder if given the choice how many would take HCQ thats been around for 70 yrs over a vaccine thats been around for 7 weeks
    Remember however you've not shown any rational reason to be suspicious or afraid of the vaccine.
    The only reasons being put forward are the ridiculous reasons such as population control, nano technology and "mark of the beast."

    I think it's safe to assume that you also share these irrational beliefs as you have not at all commented of your fellow conspiracy theorists making false claims.


  • #1230
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    I wonder if given the choice how many would take HCQ thats been around for 70 yrs over a vaccine thats been around for 7 weeks

    "I wonder how many lives Trumps personal opinion might have saved over the advice of proper medical bodies"


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  • #1231
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    Remember however you've not shown any rational reason to be suspicious or afraid of the virus.

    Because there not any I can think of any
    With proper treatment and care vast majority will survive it


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