The Vaccine

jelem

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I.e. Scaremongering using small data sets and inconclusive findings.

attempt to say we on mend and bluffed all over media to aid profit of pharma
and politicians race to keep economy going when what we told is confusing and
when read points show it is too early to push a vaccine on humans.
i point to with the extracted attempt to say what is being rolled out is not really useless
but with 27% "for impact on humans" and estimated total of vaccinated for whom it is a waste of time.
there is little to sway citizens to take vaccine or trust it will have any real effect in limiting spread.
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i refer to https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

Severe systemic events were reported in less than 2% of vaccine recipients after either dose
## was followed by
More BNT162b2 recipients than placebo recipients reported any adverse event (27% and 12%, respectively) or a related adverse event (21% and 5%).

## hence 27% "adverse event" Whatever is DEEMED as adverse eg. a headache can immobilize 1 human and just be minor irritant to another.

Among 36,523 participants who had no evidence of existing or prior SARS-CoV-2 infection, 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose were observed among vaccine recipients and 162 among placebo recipients.

## so from A total of 43,448 has moved to 36,523

A total of 43,448 participants received injections: 21,720 received BNT162b2 and 21,728 received placebo (Figure 1). At the data cut-off date of October 9, a total of 37,706 participants had a median of at least 2 months of safety data

##where did approx. 5700 go ? and now we lookig at figures of 36,523 and ##37,706

##looking at 8 of approx 18,864 = 1 in 2,358 = for ireland of
##approx 5 million = all 5m vaccinated and **2,120** still get virus
##with potential to pass it on.

##allowing for;
both the occurrence of adverse events more than 2 to 3.5 months after the second dose and more comprehensive information on the duration of protection remain to be determined.

## Duration of protection Not Known.
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so 27% (guess 1 million)of ireland could suffer adverse events and this with their health status could kill them.
so approx 2,120 despite having vaccination could still get virus
which could kill them.
No factual data of if 2,120 can pass virus on or not.
No factual data of those vaccinated are immune for long period
of time and\or pass the virus on.

the pharma as stated, are the judge\jury and history writer
as far as the "trial" was conducted and with what parameters.

even with vaccine until proven by 1 year or so data
There will have to be lockdowns as spread may be slowed a little but not stopped
concluded from the printed information being given to us

Dohnjoe

jelem wrote: »

attempt to say we on mend and bluffed all over media to aid profit of pharma
and politicians race to keep economy going when what we told is confusing and
when read points show it is too early to push a vaccine on humans.
i point to with the extracted attempt to say what is being rolled out is not really useless
but with 27% "for impact on humans" and estimated total of vaccinated for whom it is a waste of time.
there is little to sway citizens to take vaccine or trust it will have any real effect in limiting spread.
============
i refer to https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

Severe systemic events were reported in less than 2% of vaccine recipients after either dose
## was followed by
More BNT162b2 recipients than placebo recipients reported any adverse event (27% and 12%, respectively) or a related adverse event (21% and 5%).

## hence 27% "adverse event" Whatever is DEEMED as adverse eg. a headache can immobilize 1 human and just be minor irritant to another.

Among 36,523 participants who had no evidence of existing or prior SARS-CoV-2 infection, 8 cases of Covid-19 with onset at least 7 days after the second dose were observed among vaccine recipients and 162 among placebo recipients.

## so from A total of 43,448 has moved to 36,523

A total of 43,448 participants received injections: 21,720 received BNT162b2 and 21,728 received placebo (Figure 1). At the data cut-off date of October 9, a total of 37,706 participants had a median of at least 2 months of safety data

##where did approx. 5700 go ? and now we lookig at figures of 36,523 and ##37,706

##looking at 8 of approx 18,864 = 1 in 2,358 = for ireland of
##approx 5 million = all 5m vaccinated and **2,120** still get virus
##with potential to pass it on.

##allowing for;
both the occurrence of adverse events more than 2 to 3.5 months after the second dose and more comprehensive information on the duration of protection remain to be determined.

## Duration of protection Not Known.
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so 27% (guess 1 million)of ireland could suffer adverse events and this with their health status could kill them.
so approx 2,120 despite having vaccination could still get virus
which could kill them.
No factual data of if 2,120 can pass virus on or not.
No factual data of those vaccinated are immune for long period
of time and\or pass the virus on.

the pharma as stated, are the judge\jury and history writer
as far as the "trial" was conducted and with what parameters.

even with vaccine until proven by 1 year or so data
There will have to be lockdowns as spread may be slowed a little but not stopped
concluded from the printed information being given to us

The issue here seems to be your interpretation of vaccine testing rather than these vaccines being inherently unsafe.

jelem

Dohnjoe wrote: »

The issue here seems to be your interpretation of vaccine testing rather than these vaccines being inherently unsafe.

neither assumption = Their interpretation is forced and taxpayer cost to roll out.
this when their own statements show the equivelant of using a fork to move sand.
27% = unsafe to me.despite their twisted words and sentences to paint a better picture.
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just like recent political statement about the taxpayer "decided" to invest in the "banks"
to cover the quick bailout to the incompetant and corrupt financial sector.
pity not like iceland with some integretty and said no, the result they far better position
after a bit of pain.

Tpcl20

If they really wanted to implant us with microchips and nanotechnology, why wouldn't they just figure out a way to put it in the drinking water, which most people consume. Or milk, loads of people drink that.

jelem

Tpcl20 wrote: »

If they really wanted to implant us with microchips and nanotechnology, why wouldn't they just figure out a way to put it in the drinking water, which most people consume. Or milk, loads of people drink that.

as ireland 1 of few eu countries (its banned) put chlorine in water = this may
damage the "devices"
lol

Dohnjoe

jelem wrote: »

neither assumption = Their interpretation is forced and taxpayer cost to roll out.
this when their own statements show the equivelant of using a fork to move sand.
27% = unsafe to me.despite their twisted words and sentences to paint a better picture.
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To you.

just like recent political statement about the taxpayer "decided" to invest in the "banks"
to cover the quick bailout to the incompetant and corrupt financial sector.
pity not like iceland with some integretty and said no, the result they far better position
after a bit of pain.

Not sure what statement you are referring to. We live in a representative democracy, governments take decisions on our behalf.

Dohnjoe

jelem wrote: »

as ireland 1 of few eu countries (its banned) put chlorine in water = this may
damage the "devices"
lol

Chlorine is used worldwide to disinfect water. I believe you are referring to fluoride.

Dohnjoe

Tpcl20 wrote: »

If they really wanted to implant us with microchips and nanotechnology, why wouldn't they just figure out a way to put it in the drinking water, which most people consume. Or milk, loads of people drink that.

No one ever explains why our local TD and politicians, who have 9 to 5 jobs and families are so fixated on knowing exactly where you are right now. As if that has some relevance to their job.

The more you think about it, the more nonsensical it is

Lex Luthor

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

Mod

Lex I have removed your post there. It was nothing but an attack on a multitude of posters/

If you want people here to respect you, show them some back.

Anymore attitude like that & your access rights will be revoked.

The truth is being silenced

That’s happening a lot lately

It can’t be said I didn’t try to get the questions answered with real facts and data

Lex Luthor

Tpcl20 wrote: »

If they really wanted to implant us with microchips and nanotechnology, why wouldn't they just figure out a way to put it in the drinking water, which most people consume. Or milk, loads of people drink that.

Have you seen the water system in this country?

runawaybishop

Approved User Assesment wrote: »

A large asteroid may impact upon the earth on the 13th of April 2029.
keyword: may.

Equally in terms of fertility the experimental vaccine(s), of multi-dose and multi-vendor applications, they should also be measured for post effects of long-term fertility impact. Ideally with a sample size larger than a couple of dozen lads in China.

Just in case there is confusion the possible fertility issues are arising from covid19, not the vaccine. I am unaware of any suspected issues with any of the vaccines.

Lex Luthor

Lex Luthor wrote: »

The truth is being silenced

That’s happening a lot lately

It can’t be said I didn’t try to get the questions answered with real facts and data

Sure all you have to do is prove the existence of rfid signals coming from vaccinated people. Pretty simple and provable conspiracy.

Wanderer78

Lex Luthor wrote:

Have you seen the water system in this country?

Yup, and it isn't dreadful, but it certainly needs serious investment

enno99

https://twitter.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/1339741495755223042


There was a video perhaps twitter scrubbed twitter it

Hope she is ok
during the clip she told reporters I feel dizzy and fainted
Might not have been vaccine related but was epic fail at PR stunt to promote it


https://twitter.com/LaurenceRusso/status/1339763347223416834

Lex Luthor

So they have it all planned and cameras are there, head nurse of the COVID unit to talk about her team getting the vaccine, just 10 min after she received the vaccine
The stage is set, we are going to have one of our front line workers in front of the camera and tell everyone how great the vaccine is

Like I said yesterday you couldnt write the scripts that we are seeing these days, comedy gold

You might not want to delay in watching this as there could be a chance this post gets deleted

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/tennessee-nurse-passes-out-front-news-crew-minutes-after-taking-covid-19-vaccine

Lex Luthor

enno99 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/1339741495755223042


There was a video perhaps twitter scrubbed twitter it

Hope she is ok
during the clip she told reporters I feel dizzy and fainted
Might not have been vaccine related but was epic fail at PR stunt to promote it

beat me too it enno

aido79

enno99 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/1339741495755223042


There was a video perhaps twitter scrubbed twitter it

Hope she is ok
during the clip she told reporters I feel dizzy and fainted
Might not have been vaccine related but was epic fail at PR stunt to promote it

I fainted once too...no long term effects thankfully.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/17/nurse-faints-after-getting-covid-vaccine/

Is fainting part of the conspiracy? What are you trying to prove here?

aido79

Lex Luthor wrote: »

So they have it all planned and cameras are there, head nurse of the COVID unit to talk about her team getting the vaccine, just 10 min after she received the vaccine
The stage is set, we are going to have one of our front line workers in front of the camera and tell everyone how great the vaccine is

Like I said yesterday you couldnt write the scripts that we are seeing these days, comedy gold

You might not want to delay in watching this as there could be a chance this post gets deleted

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/tennessee-nurse-passes-out-front-news-crew-minutes-after-taking-covid-19-vaccine

Is it part of the conspiracy? Why would your post get deleted? Maybe because you continually post nonsense and unrelated content?

Lex Luthor

I love the guy at the end on his phone texting, probably his boss

"whats Plan B?"

kippy

Lex Luthor wrote: »

So they have it all planned and cameras are there, head nurse of the COVID unit to talk about her team getting the vaccine, just 10 min after she received the vaccine
The stage is set, we are going to have one of our front line workers in front of the camera and tell everyone how great the vaccine is

Like I said yesterday you couldnt write the scripts that we are seeing these days, comedy gold

You might not want to delay in watching this as there could be a chance this post gets deleted

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/tennessee-nurse-passes-out-front-news-crew-minutes-after-taking-covid-19-vaccine

Theres nothing comedic about any of this.

Fighting Tao

She obviously was an anti-vaccine actor!

Lex Luthor

Fighting Tao wrote: »

She obviously was an anti-vaccine actor!

any proof to this?

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

any proof to this?

Your sarcasm detector is as effective as your passive rfid chips in sending signals 1000’s of miles to our new overlords.

enno99

kippy wrote: »

Theres nothing comedic about any of this.

Especially if you have stock in Pfizer

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/1339741495755223042


There was a video perhaps twitter scrubbed twitter it

Hope she is ok
during the clip she told reporters I feel dizzy and fainted
Might not have been vaccine related but was epic fail at PR stunt to promote it


https://twitter.com/LaurenceRusso/status/1339763347223416834

Happens, happened to me yesterday. I have had multiple medical procedures but ended up nearly fainting in front of a doctor yesterday. It was caused by an anxiety attack. It's a tad silly to get so excited over somebody who likely had one. The fact you guys are so gleeful over such an event says more about ye.

funnydoggy

All the comments in the twitter thread are unreal, like the "my wife is going to get the vaccine, I'll be praying for her" one. Chríst almighty.

enno99

Deleted User wrote: »

Happens, happened to me yesterday. I have had multiple medical procedures but ended up nearly fainting in front of a doctor yesterday. It was caused by an anxiety attack. It's a tad silly to get so excited over somebody who likely had one. The fact you guys are so gleeful over such an event says more about ye.

Might be better to read the posts you quote before getting all sanctimonious

Might not have been vaccine related but was epic fail at PR stunt to promote it

What do that say about you

Wanderer78

enno99 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TaylorRMarshall/status/1339741495755223042


There was a video perhaps twitter scrubbed twitter it

Hope she is ok
during the clip she told reporters I feel dizzy and fainted
Might not have been vaccine related but was epic fail at PR stunt to promote it


https://twitter.com/LaurenceRusso/status/1339763347223416834

tis common enough with vaccines, i nearly passed out after japanese encephalitis

Lex Luthor

Deleted User wrote: »

The fact you guys are so gleeful over such an event says more about ye.

Sarcasm detectors need new batteries all around this morning

Fighting Tao

Wanderer78 wrote: »

tis common enough with vaccines, i nearly passed out after japanese encephalitis

Sure even with the flu vaccine, they recommend that you sit for 15 minutes afterwards to ensure you are ok. Hullabaloo about nothing with that video.

It could be blood sugar levels, stress of being on camera, heat in the room....