Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

opinionated3 · 16-12-2020 06:34PM

What are the realistic chances of wet pubs being allowed to open for st Patrick's Day? Would give the publicans a bit of certainty to aim for rather than stringing them along, denying them their business one lockdown at at time

16-12-2020 06:40PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

What are the realistic chances of wet pubs being allowed to open for st Patrick's Day? Would give the publicans a bit of certainty to aim for rather than stringing them along, denying them their business one lockdown at at time

My money is on reopening pubs after 17 March.

Biggest piss-up day in the Country will be avoided at all costs.

IAMAMORON · 16-12-2020 06:58PM

PommieBast wrote: »

Cue the arguments over who constitutes the necessary. There will be someone in position of influence pushing for whats amount to an everyone jabbed policy.

It has already been published by NPHET.

IAMAMORON · 16-12-2020 07:02PM

Geuze wrote: »

Are you assuming here that the vaccine prevents transmission?

I don't think that is being claimed.

The vaccine maker and regulators do not claim that the vaccine prevents transmission.

Yes I am assuming that it prevents transmission?

PommieBast · 16-12-2020 07:03PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

It has already been published by NPHET.

Linky?

I thought they had only published a list of what order people are getting jabbed and nothing actually linking this progress to reopenings

boombang · 16-12-2020 07:12PM

jippo nolan wrote: »

Speak for yourself, are you not able for it?

They don't need to speak for themselves, it's all the idiots who'll be getting jarred and spreading COVID that we need to think of.

Anyway, anybody will be banjaxed if they have enough.

PTH2009 · 16-12-2020 07:29PM

Jesus I miss the after work pint, nowadays you have to be done work for latest 9.30pm esp with the food and that

ShineOn7 · 16-12-2020 07:59PM

The desperation of some in here to get the pubs open says it all about Ireland's laughable fascination with alcohol

London and loads more areas in the UK now have zero bars open. Even with food served

But in Ireland? Nah, let's open up gastropubs at Christmas

The mind boggles and in January we're completely fúcked

Also - https://imgur.com/uJ4Xhzf

uJ4Xhzf

Melanchthon · 16-12-2020 08:16PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The desperation of some in here to get the pubs open says it all about Ireland's laughable fascination with alcohol

London and loads more areas in the UK now have zero bars open. even with food served

But in Ireland? Nah, let's open up gastropubs at Christmas

The mind boggles and in January we're completely fúcked

Also - https://imgur.com/uJ4Xhzf

In most parts of the UK the pubs have been open at least for outdoor drinking at a minimum for over half the year.
In Dublin they have never opened again, it's not the same!

lukas8888 · 16-12-2020 08:18PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The desperation of some in here to get the pubs open says it all about Ireland's laughable fascination with alcohol

London and loads more areas in the UK now have zero bars open. even with food served

But in Ireland? Nah, let's open up gastropubs at Christmas

The mind boggles and in January we're completely fúcked

Also - https://imgur.com/uJ4Xhzf

What are you on about, our 14 day rate when the foods pubs opened was around 80 nationally,London pubs were all opened until today and their rate is 299 per 100K. If our rate reaches anywhere near that we will also close the pubs a lot quicker than the UK.

ShineOn7 · 16-12-2020 08:30PM

I see there's no point in talking sense in this thread. It's full of people screaming "open da pubs!" during a once in a century pandemic

The drink culture in this country is a little pathetic tbh

IAMAMORON · 16-12-2020 08:56PM

PommieBast wrote: »

Linky?

I thought they had only published a list of what order people are getting jabbed and nothing actually linking this progress to reopenings

As soon as the infection rate drops and NPHET give the nod that all staff, elderly and the vulnerable have been inoculated they will open up everywhere.

The list is published. It is all over bar the shouting now.

Sure they have been surreptitiously allowing kids and students get infected for months now.

Hulk Hands · 16-12-2020 09:17PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I see there's no point in talking sense in this thread. It's full of people screaming "open da pubs!" during a once in a century pandemic

The drink culture in this country is a little pathetic tbh

He's literally just responded to you with a fact based post about our incidence rate being a fraction of the UK's when we decided to open, after they've been open the vast majority of the time since May. And then you ignore it and post this nonsense. Very ironic post, unintentionally

weldoninhio · 16-12-2020 09:28PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The desperation of some in here to get the pubs open says it all about Ireland's laughable fascination with alcohol

London and loads more areas in the UK now have zero bars open. Even with food served

But in Ireland? Nah, let's open up gastropubs at Christmas

The mind boggles and in January we're completely fúcked

Also - https://imgur.com/uJ4Xhzf

Ah we’re doomed.

Like we were after Cheltenham.
And after the Italian tourists.
And after the May bank holiday.
And after the June bank holiday.
And after the summer street parties.
And after the anti-mask protests.
And after gastropubs opened in the summer.
And after the drinking in Dame Lane.
And after the college parties.
And after the drinking on the streets.

Do you never get tired of crying wolf??

ShineOn7 · 16-12-2020 09:40PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Ah we’re doomed.

Like we were after Cheltenham.
And after the Italian tourists.
And after the May bank holiday.
And after the June bank holiday.
And after the summer street parties.
And after the anti-mask protests.
And after gastropubs opened in the summer.
And after the drinking in Dame Lane.
And after the college parties.
And after the drinking on the streets.

Do you never get tired of crying wolf??

Wtf are you talking about?

Did you see the case numbers before Level 5 lockdown and the Gastropubs were closed again? And the numbers of mortalaties recently?

Because in January we'll see those numbers on steroids and the Gastropubs will play a part in them

But sure having the craic is more important

AdrianBalboa · 16-12-2020 09:47PM

431 new cases. Six deaths.

I hope the minding-my-own-business brigade are enjoying their drinks sans substantial meals. The life of your fellow man is a small price to pay for a pint and a read of the paper next to a roaring fire after all.

Sláinte.

ShineOn7 · 16-12-2020 09:52PM

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

The life of your fellow man is a small price to pay for a pint and a read of the paper next to a roaring fire after all.

Priorities eh?

weldoninhio · 16-12-2020 09:55PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Wtf are you talking about?

Did you see the case numbers before Level 5 lockdown and the Gastropubs were closed again? And the numbers of mortalaties recently?

Because in January we'll see those numbers on steroids and the Gastropubs will play a part in them

But sure having the craic is more important

Calm down dear. The sky is not falling. Deaths in care homes have nothing to do with gastropubs being open.

opinionated3 · 16-12-2020 09:57PM

Leo has just told the fine Gael party that restrictions are expected well into next year, possibly first six months. Interesting to see how many businesses, not just pub's, will go to the wall in 2021.

RageCondom420 · 16-12-2020 10:02PM

Give me a break. Your moralisation of this issue is ridiculous. The people giving out about the rest of us trying to get on with our lives are faux-altruists.

I bet this is the most unselfish thing you have ever done with yourselves (staying in watching telle) and that is why you are flouting it and pointing fingers.

YOU stay at home, let the vulnerable stay at home, and let the rest of us go about our business. The vaccine will be along soon and then you can all come out of your caves and join us.

We have never cared about each-other or our problems before the pandemic, so stop acting like you give a crap about everyone all of a sudden.

We are not in this together, we never have been. Look after yourself and your family and don’t mind anybody else - they are all that ever have really mattered to us and all that ever will.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 16-12-2020 10:16PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Ah we’re doomed.

Like we were after Cheltenham.
And after the Italian tourists.
And after the May bank holiday.
And after the June bank holiday.
And after the summer street parties.
And after the anti-mask protests.
And after gastropubs opened in the summer.
And after the drinking in Dame Lane.
And after the college parties.
And after the drinking on the streets.

Do you never get tired of crying wolf??

Omg shut up...the lockdown is just for two weeks or at worst until we flatten the curve.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 16-12-2020 10:18PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Calm down dear. The sky is not falling. Deaths in care homes have nothing to do with gastropubs being open.

Or in the hospitals... These are people who have been in for weeks already.

Geuze · 16-12-2020 10:20PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Yes I am assuming that it prevents transmission?

That claim has not been made.

That is not known (yet).

More study is required to know whether or not it prevents transmission.

We know it reduces the severity of sickness, by triggering an immune response, ok.

But we do not know whether the infected people are infectious, or not.

Hulk Hands · 16-12-2020 10:21PM

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

431 new cases. Six deaths.

I hope the minding-my-own-business brigade are enjoying their drinks sans substantial meals. The life of your fellow man is a small price to pay for a pint and a read of the paper next to a roaring fire after all.

Sláinte.

7th lowest incidence rate out of 51 European countries. Zero cases reported from pubs and restaurants as yet. Congratulations to everyone and enjoy yourselves in safe responsible venues this Christmas

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1339203177124651008?s=19

Pauliedragon · 16-12-2020 10:22PM

I don't have strong opinions either way on this topic but with a bit of backround I've worked in pubs for over 20 years and have been unemployed since March. Financially I'm fine so no stress there. A couple of points I would like to add are.
-Yes people after a few beers will start to get a bit loose and the backslapping and hugging will begin which is not good for virus conditions. However that's where staff/management step in and say right guys next time I see ye breaking the rules it's straight out the door and ye won't be served again for a few weeks. Thrust me people will start behaving themselves very quickly. If necessary get the guards to be more proactive in ensuring the pubs are enforcing the guidelines so the pubs know they are being watched.
-Second, people need to be aware that in a few weeks the PUP payment drops from 350 to 250 a week. Again I'm Ok but somebody with family, rent, mortgage 250 is not much to live on. I used to manage pubs in a city where licensing laws were outrageously extreme but maybe we could come to a compromise where we could open the doors get people back to work, start paying back the 40 billion we're going to borrow this year to pay for this virus and people could have a drink with friends safely and get the authorities to police it so that eveybody knows that they have to behave themselves.

Strumms · 16-12-2020 10:25PM

jippo nolan wrote: »

Speak for yourself, are you not able for it?

I’m very much able for it.

Unfortunately a lot of people won’t be. Therein lies the issue. That’s been proven already...

Look for yourselves on YouTube at scenes in Dublin city, public spaces, inside pubs and elsewhere.

Zero distancing attempted or achieved...

ShineOn7 · 16-12-2020 11:01PM

jippo nolan wrote: »

Speak for yourself, are you not able for it?

Are they not ... able for it?

You're typing like a 17 year old drinking cans with his mates in a field

AdrianBalboa · 16-12-2020 11:12PM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

7th lowest incidence rate out of 51 European countries. Zero cases reported from pubs and restaurants as yet. Congratulations to everyone and enjoy yourselves in safe responsible venues this Christmas

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1339203177124651008?s=19

You seem to have misread your source there, he says that there haven’t been any “outbreaks” linked with cafes, restaurants and public houses. So your “zero cases” claim remains unproven, probably because it’s hogswallop.

17-12-2020 12:07AM

Gargle mongers was pretty funny. For everyone who wants things to open up and go back to normal, have a chat with your local TD and apply pressure there. Posting on here isn't going to do a whole heap to change things. No booze in normal pubs for the next 6 months at this stage. Get used to it.

PTH2009 · 17-12-2020 12:45AM

Id say cheese boards have gotten a popular rise in fame the last few months. Sure it's handy if you just want a few pints and not a massive pizza/burger/chicken wings etc.

Still placings using small pizza ovens serving pizzas from Tesco and cheap nachos with a bit of cheese and Bolognese sauce over them.

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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