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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    But in this “version” she’s a womxn of colour. Having a white person voice her would lead to backlash.

    To be honest I still havent got over the fact that Paddington was voiced by a man and not a real bear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    keano_afc wrote: »
    To be honest I still havent got over the fact that Paddington was voiced by a man and not a real bear.

    But would you be getting all “worked up” if it was a person of colour voicing a fictional, talking, bear?

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    keano_afc wrote: »
    Thats not the issue though, Ariel is a white character and casting a non-white person to voice her should be problematic, if those who gave out about Apu or Cleveland were consistent.

    If its ok for a non-white person to voice a white character, it should also be fine for a white person to voice a non-white character. But wokeness says it isnt, so thats why this is hypocritical.

    Ariel is not a white character. She is a mermaid. What colour are mermaids? Any fukking colour your imagination conjures up. How many half fish-half human people do you know?


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    But in this “version” she’s a womxn of colour. Having a white person voice her would lead to backlash.

    The amount of power and influence the wokerati have in Hollywood is unbelievable. The media are such cowards they are caving into every demand under the guise of "diversity".

    When I look at UK tv channels it's the same story. Black people massively over represented on adverts (Indian/Chinese people seem to be underrepresented, maybe because they don't complain to the same extent).


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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Ariel is not a white character. She is a mermaid. What colour are mermaids? Any fukking colour your imagination conjures up. How many half fish-half human people do you know?

    They should have made Ariel a merman. MERMAN!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    They should have made Ariel a merman. MERMAN!

    That identifies as a cat. And less if the 'maid', if you dont mind. It's 'household assistant'.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    The amount of power and influence the wokerati have in Hollywood is unbelievable. The media are such cowards they are caving into every demand under the guise of "diversity".

    This is utter rubbish. 'Hollywood' doesn't care about diversity, all it cares about is money. Whatever brings in the most money is what Hollywood will choose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    I received a card in the post today with something I felt was quite woke:rolleyes: . The over-representation and push of the minority in Ireland, as if they are trying to drip-feed the multiculturalism ideology on us. Through news media, state television, radio and now stamps:pac: It's always the one culture and minority tho. It reminds me of when my mate (who is Irish, whose parents are Chinese) said that you never see any efforts or representation for the Asian community like you see afforded to black people in Ireland. Same with other ethnic minorities whose parents immigrated to Ireland. In a book of 20 stamps, the majority is one picture and six stamps to for the nativity. They could of done it where int was inclusive of other minorities.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Ariel is not a white character. She is a mermaid. What colour are mermaids? Any fukking colour your imagination conjures up. How many half fish-half human people do you know?

    If the ****ing mermaid was originally tanned and she was then done in a paler shade of european white, you'd be hearing all about it

    Absolute mentalism :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Bambi wrote: »
    If the ****ing mermaid was originally tanned and she was then done in a paler shade of european white, you'd be hearing all about it

    Absolute mentalism :o

    Is there a reference to her skin colour in the 'original ' story? Is it based on a fairy tale? Does her tail colour get a mention?


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    We are expected to believe that Ireland has always been like that.

    Frankly I am just not finding the scene believable. The absent father rings true I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    We are expected to believe that Ireland has always been like that.

    Frankly I am just not finding the scene believable. The absent father rings true I suppose.

    Wow, people getting wound up over brown people on stamps. How did you feel about the Philllo stamps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I received a card in the post today with something I felt was quite woke:rolleyes: . The over-representation and push of the minority in Ireland, as if they are trying to drip-feed the multiculturalism ideology on us. Through news media, state television, radio and now stamps:pac: It's always the one culture and minority tho. It reminds me of when my mate (who is Irish, whose parents are Chinese) said that you never see any efforts or representation for the Asian community like you see afforded to black people in Ireland. Same with other ethnic minorities whose parents immigrated to Ireland. In a book of 20 stamps, the majority is one picture and six stamps to for the nativity. They could of done it where int was inclusive of other minorities.


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    What does the N stand for?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Feisar wrote: »
    What does the N stand for?

    ohh outrage.


    No tho thats what I thought. I thought it was northern Ireland but apparently not


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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Wow, people getting wound up over brown people on stamps. How did you feel about the Philllo stamps?

    I'm not getting wound up by the stamps per sé.

    I just get irritated at the thought An Post probably had a big waste of time meeting about this and some 21 year Trinity graduate who's never met a black person thinks it's a great opportunity to do a bit of virtue signalling. Thinking they are doing a grand public service to 'educate' the plebs.

    Phillo was a great Irishman and Dub - no objections to him being on a stamp. Ditto Paul McGrath. No objections to anyone being on a stamp to be honest. I just find it mildly irritating to see the transparent virtue signalling being shoehorned in everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Feisar


    ohh outrage.


    No tho thats what I thought. I thought it was northern Ireland but apparently not

    Nollaig, Irish for Xmas but is everyone going to get that these days. I see An Post getting lit up shortly!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    Feisar wrote: »
    What does the N stand for?

    National post
    And something about the value of the stamp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Is there a reference to her skin colour in the 'original ' story? Is it based on a fairy tale? Does her tail colour get a mention?

    Yeah HCA specifically mentioned that merpeople were all BIPOC

    If you had some Latino Disney character suddenly turn into a pasty redhead in the remake there'd be ****ing war on twitter until Disney changed it back, the other way around and its "What colour should mermaids be" from the same weirdos who freak out about the skin colour of voice actors :o


    You wanna make everything about race fine, everything is about race. ;)


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    Kingp35 wrote: »
    This is utter rubbish. 'Hollywood' doesn't care about diversity, all it cares about is money. Whatever brings in the most money is what Hollywood will choose.

    Hollywood doesn't care about diversity as a movement for social change... but it does care about being able to preach virtue to others. It wants to climb the pulpit, look down on the masses, and pass on a message (that they themselves won't follow). It's all about showing how much better they all are than everyone else. The crap that has come from Hollywood actors during covid is horrendous, and it keeps on coming.. in spite of it driving their audiences away, and pushing revenue into the red.

    And while money is important.. preaching is more important than money. Otherwise they would have stopped with the first round of dismal failures in movies (think Ghostbusters which bombed), and not destroyed profitable franchises like Star War with this nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Bambi wrote: »
    Yeah HCA specifically mentioned that merpeople were all BIPOC

    If you had some Latino Disney character suddenly turn into a pasty redhead in the remake there'd be ****ing war on twitter until Disney changed it back, the other way around and its "What colour should mermaids be" from the same weirdos who freak out about the skin colour of voice actors :o


    You wanna make everything about race fine, everything is about race. ;)

    I dont freak out over the skin colour of any cartoon character, or the people who voice them.especially one that's not even depicting a human being of any race.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    I'm not getting wound up by the stamps per sé.

    I just get irritated at the thought An Post probably had a big waste of time meeting about this and some 21 year Trinity graduate who's never met a black person thinks it's a great opportunity to do a bit of virtue signalling. Thinking they are doing a grand public service to 'educate' the plebs.

    Phillo was a great Irishman and Dub - no objections to him being on a stamp. Ditto Paul McGrath. No objections to anyone being on a stamp to be honest. I just find it mildly irritating to see the transparent virtue signalling being shoehorned in everywhere.

    In fairness An Post are late entrants to Wokeism, but are making great strides in the field of virtue signalling.

    https://theirishsentinel.com/2020/11/22/6729/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Bambi wrote: »
    Yeah HCA specifically mentioned that merpeople were all BIPOC

    If you had some Latino Disney character suddenly turn into a pasty redhead in the remake there'd be ****ing war on twitter until Disney changed it back, the other way around and its "What colour should mermaids be" from the same weirdos who freak out about the skin colour of voice actors :o


    You wanna make everything about race fine, everything is about race. ;)

    Smithers from ‘The Simpsons’ went from a dark complexion, with bluish hair, to yellow with grey hair to little, or no, “outrage”.

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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I dont freak out over the skin colour of any cartoon character, or the people who voice them.especially one that's not even depicting a human being of any race.

    Ditto. I wouldn't care in the slightest, with my attention being on the cartoon, rather than the actors themselves.

    But then, I'm a bit of an oddball, because I tend to feel the same way about movies. I focus on the movie, and I seriously don't care if an actor is a Scientologist or some other unnecessary information. The movie itself (and the acting) is all that matters.

    However, other people do care. They need to know everything about who is acting, and to "approve" of the casting choices. Doesn't make sense to me. I always thought the whole point of watching cartoons and movies was the escapism of it all..


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    Smithers from ‘The Simpsons’ went from a dark complexion, with bluish hair, to yellow with grey hair to little, or no, “outrage”.

    Yeah the simpsons dont give a **** about the moral outrage brigade.

    Hows Apu doing? Havent watched it in a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Ditto. I wouldn't care in the slightest, with my attention being on the cartoon, rather than the actors themselves.

    But then, I'm a bit of an oddball, because I tend to feel the same way about movies. I focus on the movie, and I seriously don't care if an actor is a Scientologist or some other unnecessary information. The movie itself (and the acting) is all that matters.

    However, other people do care. They need to know everything about who is acting, and to "approve" of the casting choices. Doesn't make sense to me. I always thought the whole point of watching cartoons and movies was the escapism of it all..

    Exactly. Cartoon and fantasy being an extension of the fairy tale world where anything and anyone can happen. And a really good acting talent, you should stop noticing the actor and only see the character. Remember when we were kids and role played games. It should he like that. Skin colour, ability, disability shouldn't matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Wow, people getting wound up over brown people on stamps. How did you feel about the Philllo stamps?

    I just hope to Sweet Baby Jesus that Dr. Ebun Joseph doesn't get a card with one of those stamps. I'm sure that she will see a slave somewhere on the stamp and then we will all be flucked because there will no mail for Christmas when she (and RTE) protest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    I received a card in the post today with something I felt was quite woke:rolleyes: . The over-representation and push of the minority in Ireland, as if they are trying to drip-feed the multiculturalism ideology on us. Through news media, state television, radio and now stamps:pac: It's always the one culture and minority tho. It reminds me of when my mate (who is Irish, whose parents are Chinese) said that you never see any efforts or representation for the Asian community like you see afforded to black people in Ireland. Same with other ethnic minorities whose parents immigrated to Ireland. In a book of 20 stamps, the majority is one picture and six stamps to for the nativity. They could of done it where int was inclusive of other minorities.


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    Is that a Christmas stamp? I thought it was from a series showing Irish Eurovision entrants down through the decades and this was 1982.
    (I'm saying no more, look it up)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Kivaro wrote: »
    I just hope to Sweet Baby Jesus that Dr. Ebun Joseph doesn't get a card with one of those stamps. I'm sure that she will see a slave somewhere on the stamp and then we will all be flucked because there will no mail for Christmas when she (and RTE) protest.

    I imagine her Times piece is out tomorrow where the fact there’s no father on it is our DISGRACEFUL RAYYYYCIST narrative about feckless fathers in the African community.

    Or something!!!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Through news media, state television, radio and now stamps:pac: It's always the one culture and minority tho. It reminds me of when my mate (who is Irish, whose parents are Chinese) said that you never see any efforts or representation for the Asian community like you see afforded to black people in Ireland. Same with other ethnic minorities whose parents immigrated to Ireland.
    Well there is most certainly a hierarchy of "race" going on and the "woke" are just as obsessed about it as racists so when they go virtue signalling this is how they do it. Take another hamfisted example on Gov.ie around early development stuff for parents and kids:

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    Not one White guy. In Ireland. Where the vast majority of men, even among non locals are pale as feck. Apparently all Irish women are also in multiracial relationships. Note too no Black women. African American women commentators have long noted the White woke tend to ignore them in their hierarchy.

    In all this wokeness where are the White immigrant communities of Ireland? Well they're invisible, even though they make up the largest demographic by far. Well over 200,000 in number. There are over a 100,000 Polish people alone. Of the over 10,000 Spaniards, Italians, Germans each. Nada. East Asian folks don't get a look in either, well they tend to be successful, indeed on average can be more successful than the natives wherever they go. In the US they've actually moved Asian Americans out of the POC league because they skew the figures too much and kinda ruin the "it's all about racism" stuff. Indian folks another demographic that tend to be absent for similar reasons to the Asian folks. And indeed they prove it's not about "race" as a diaspora on average they are better educated and wealthier than Pakistani folks and they're the same race. You'd think this might be pointed out to snuff out the racists ideas? But nope.

    Well when the right on are so wedded to group identity politics and the oppressed/oppressor narrative that would hurt their ickle heads. Of course in one way this group identity politics is as racist as any nazi because it holds the philosophy of low expectations entirely based on skin colour and/or group affiliation, not on the individual and yet we're told to ignore skin colour, while they're obsessed with it? Then again since the woke seem to undergo surgical irony removal as part of their faith they can't spot the obvious problems in their politic.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭a_squirrelman


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Well there is most certainly a hierarchy of "race" going on and the "woke" are just as obsessed about it as racists so when they go virtue signalling this is how they do it. Take another hamfisted example on Gov.ie around early development stuff for parents and kids:

    535869.png

    Not one White guy. In Ireland. Where the vast majority of men, even among non locals are pale as feck. Apparently all Irish women are also in multiracial relationships. Note too no Black women. African American women commentators have long noted the White woke tend to ignore them in their hierarchy.

    In all this wokeness where are the White immigrant communities of Ireland? Well they're invisible, even though they make up the largest demographic by far. Well over 200,000 in number. There are over a 100,000 Polish people alone. Of the over 10,000 Spaniards, Italians, Germans each. Nada. East Asian folks don't get a look in either, well they tend to be successful, indeed on average can be more successful than the natives wherever they go. In the US they've actually moved Asian Americans out of the POC league because they skew the figures too much and kinda ruin the "it's all about racism" stuff. Indian folks another demographic that tend to be absent for similar reasons to the Asian folks. And indeed they prove it's not about "race" as a diaspora on average they are better educated and wealthier than Pakistani folks and they're the same race. You'd think this might be pointed out to snuff out the racists ideas? But nope.

    Well when the right on are so wedded to group identity politics and the oppressed/oppressor narrative that would hurt their ickle heads. Of course in one way this group identity politics is as racist as any nazi because it holds the philosophy of low expectations entirely based on skin colour and/or group affiliation, not on the individual and yet we're told to ignore skin colour, while they're obsessed with it? Then again since the woke seem to undergo surgical irony removal as part of their faith they can't spot the obvious problems in their politic.

    What are you on? :D There's two white men there.


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