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Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,354 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    Where to begin with this post. Some people on here really do operate in an alternate reality.

    you have proof to the contrary?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    gmisk wrote: »
    I got a call from my husband, he decided to just get off luas and walk into town.
    Seemingly pretty rammed, lot of people not wearing masks, load of homeless people, alcoholics and drug addicts hoping on and off not a bother or a mask in sight....lovely

    So much for mandatory use of face masks on public transport :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Ashbourne hoop


    Where to begin with this post. Some people on here really do operate in an alternate reality.

    Best ignored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,803 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    So much for mandatory use of face masks on public transport :mad:
    In fairness I warned him the luas was a bit like the wild west at the minute...heard similar from a few people.
    My experiences on the bus have all been excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Bus Eireann is fairly good down here as well

    Hard to see what can be done with the Luas as the drivers won't wait until those without masks leave the tram before moving on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,335 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Germany preparing to implement new restrictions following record 622 deaths yesterday.

    https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1336619043634245633


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,305 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    A bit of caution this morning on the vaccine
    UK regulators have issued a warning that people who have a history of "significant" allergic reactions should not currently receive the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine after two people who had the jab yesterday had allergic reactions.


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where to begin with this post. Some people on here really do operate in an alternate reality.

    So what do you disagree with then?

    Do you think we done enough to prevent spread in nursing homes and hospitals?

    Do you think masks have reduced cases?

    Do you think lockdown has prevented thousands of deaths despite looking at Sweden.

    Do you think spending a few quid on food in a pub has prevented deaths?

    Maybe make a point instead of posting nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,335 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Vaccines, no matter what they are for, are not play things or political tools. Very foolish behaviour by the UK government to rush things for political point scoring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,335 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog



    Do you think lockdown has prevented thousands of deaths despite looking at Sweden.

    Do you know how many deaths combined there has been in Finland, Norway and Denmark compared to Sweden?

    I'd highly suggest you look it up. Your answer is there.

    Unequivocally Sweden took the wrong course to it's neighbors. It's not a debate, it's reality backed by statistics.


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  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Germany preparing to implement new restrictions following record 622 deaths yesterday.

    https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1336619043634245633

    Not really relevant to relaxing restrictions in Ireland though is it?

    A week or two back it was Belgium you were using to spread misery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    So what do you disagree with then?

    Do you think we done enough to prevent spread in nursing homes and hospitals?

    Do you think masks have reduced cases?

    Do you think lockdown has prevented thousands of deaths despite looking at Sweden.

    Do you think spending a few quid on food in a pub has prevented deaths?

    Maybe make a point instead of posting nonsense.

    :)

    that is completely nuts

    they've had thousands more deaths than us and are currently close to matching the worst days of their first wave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,335 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Not really relevant to relaxing restrictions in Ireland though is it?

    A week or two back it was Belgium you were using to spread misery.

    1. This thread is not exclusively about Ireland.

    2. Belgium remains in misery. Please keep yourself abreast of the statistics.


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do you know how many deaths combined there has been in Finland, Norway and Denmark compared to Sweden?

    I'd highly suggest you look it up. Your answer is there.

    Unequivocally Sweden took the wrong course to it's neighbors. It's not a debate, it's reality backed by statistics.

    Did bodies pile up on the street though as many predicted?

    Nope. They have an older population hence more deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,335 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Did bodies pile up on the street though as many predicted?

    Nope. They have an older population hence more deaths.

    Yeah, look, you can time sink other posters willing to tolerate it. You refuse to take information in or provide statistics (because they refute your points).

    Have a nice day though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Not really relevant to relaxing restrictions in Ireland though is it?

    A week or two back it was Belgium you were using to spread misery.

    I didn't know the thread was just about Covid19 Irish issues?


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah, look, you can time sink other posters willing to tolerate it. You refuse to take information in or provide statistics (because they refute your points).

    Have a nice day though.

    I will have a nice day. And lots of people in this country will too as they go about their business.

    You can keep spreading misery from other countries all you want.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    Zebra3 wrote: »

    And the worst part is it's been cheerled by an adoring public who seem to have Stockholm syndrome for lockdown. If someone told me this time last year that people would be calling to be locked up at home for months by the government, I'd have asked the barman for some of whatever you were drinking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    gmisk wrote: »
    I got a call from my husband, he decided to just get off luas and walk into town.
    Seemingly pretty rammed, lot of people not wearing masks, load of homeless people, alcoholics and drug addicts hoping on and off not a bother or a mask in sight....lovely

    My daughter takes it to school every morning well that was until this Monday when my wife has decided to just bring her and make arrangements in work to be late and leave early. She took some photos of the amount of people on it Monday morning and we decided it's not worth risking her health or ours to continue in the same fashion. Also a lot of people are just not bothering with masks now it seems which isn't great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,353 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Zebra3 wrote: »

    I suppose the Spanish flu was also a "pretext to curtail civil rights around the world". Nothing to do with needing to deal with pandemics to curtail the spread.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    They have an older population hence more deaths.

    Not really, 19% of the Irish population is over 65, it's 20% in Sweden so that theory doesn't hold any water. Sweden's death rate which is over 70% higher than here, maybe not as high as quite a few western European countries but shocking for a wealthy country considered utopia by many.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    I suppose the Spanish flu was also a "pretext to curtail civil rights around the world". Nothing to do with needing to deal with pandemics to curtail the spread.

    My worry is that lockdowns have become a new weapon in the government's arsenal if they ever need to control the public. Whatever your stance on covid is you have to agree the infringement on people's rights and the intrusion of the government in our personal lives is unacceptable.

    At least in the UK they've said that restrictions are ending in the spring while here NPHET and the government have done their level best to piss all over the vaccine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,507 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    My worry is that lockdowns have become a new weapon in the government's arsenal if they ever need to control the public. Whatever your stance on covid is you have to agree the infringement on people's rights and the intrusion of the government in our personal lives is unacceptable.

    At least in the UK they've said that restrictions are ending in the spring while here NPHET and the government have done their level best to piss all over the vaccine.

    Lockdowns have been enforced by the people themselves, we don't have the police force to do much more than we are doing. If a lockdown was enforced for a spurious reason, then the government would need a way to actually enforce it properly, which hasn't happened.

    Of course, some idiots will think a pandemic is a spurious reason, and will talk about slippery slopes etc, but they're idiots and best ignored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,140 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I suppose the Spanish flu was also a "pretext to curtail civil rights around the world". Nothing to do with needing to deal with pandemics to curtail the spread.

    Irish people got on with their lives then despite it being much more lethal around the globe.

    Sports events took place and the war against the Tans continued unabated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Cruise ships still a no go for a while I’d imagine. Everyone on that one confined to their cabin. Great craic.

    https://twitter.com/ap/status/1336547135274295303?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Cruise ships still a no go for a while I’d imagine. Everyone on that one confined to their cabin. Great craic.

    https://twitter.com/ap/status/1336547135274295303?s=21

    Cruise to nowhere..........and now locked into your cabin......what a way to put in a lockdown!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Best news this year.

    Ivermectin folks.
    It's game over, no more lockdowns, no rush to take a vaccine. Sooner we get this out there the better. It's a cheap drug, been on the market for 40 years, FDA approved. It's a medicine not a vaccine with impressive results when you take it for and prior to treatment.

    No more lockdowns, back.to normal.

    https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20201208/this-was-a-gift-to-us-ivermectin-effective-for-covid19-prophylaxis-treatment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Leinster90


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Best news this year.

    Ivermectin folks.
    It's game over, no more lockdowns, no rush to take a vaccine. Sooner we get this out there the better. It's a cheap drug, been on the market for 40 years, FDA approved. It's a medicine not a vaccine with impressive results when you take it for and prior to treatment.

    No more lockdowns, back.to normal.

    https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20201208/this-was-a-gift-to-us-ivermectin-effective-for-covid19-prophylaxis-treatment

    Are there any reputable publications which have confirmed this drug’s efficacy based on scientific data?

    By reputable I mean the BBC, New York Times, Financial Times etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,305 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Irish people got on with their lives then despite it being much more lethal around the globe.

    Sports events took place and the war against the Tans continued unabated.

    Maybe it's just me but I find a fixation on attending sports events during a once in a lifetime unprecedented pandemic slightly bizarre. I love going to a match but it's low on my priority list at the moment; way behind seeing family or opening businesses.

    Over 20000 people in Ireland died of the Spanish Flu. People did not go about their lives normally.

    From Stacking the Coffins, Influenza, war and revolution in Ireland 1918-1919 (Manchester University Press).
    What it did was silence entire communities and towns. You might see two or 3,000 sick in a town like say Dundalk or a thousand in a town like New Ross all under medical care at the same time. You'd see things like businesses shut down not because they were instructed to do so, but because the staff were just gone sick. You'd see the Irish Times writing things like the better sort of client is sending out for their messages just now rather than risking themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    Leinster90 wrote: »
    Are there any reputable publications which have confirmed this drug’s efficacy based on scientific data?

    By reputable I mean the BBC, New York Times, Financial Times etc.

    In the article they refer dr.Marik, so at least source is massively reputable.


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