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Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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  • #1652
    BurgundyRose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭BurgundyRose


    Today's cases are not very great. It's sad to see now going into the Christmas period and I'm afraid going forward. I will continue to follow the guidelines and keep contacts low. I am fearful of more spread not only for myself but for others too. Its sad and disappointing because a vaccine is so close. I would hate to get a covid positive result this month or next and go on to develop a long covid with a vaccine nearly ready to be rolled out.


  • #1653
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    BurgundyRose wrote: »
    Today's cases are not very great. It's sad to see now going into the Christmas period and I'm afraid going forward. I will continue to follow the guidelines and keep contacts low. I am fearful of more spread not only for myself but for others too. Its sad and disappointing because a vaccine is so close. I would hate to get a covid positive result this month or next and go on to develop a long covid with a vaccine nearly ready to be rolled out.

    Don't worry


  • #1654
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,814 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    BurgundyRose wrote: »
    Today's cases are not very great. It's sad to see now going into the Christmas period and I'm afraid going forward. I will continue to follow the guidelines and keep contacts low. I am fearful of more spread not only for myself but for others too. Its sad and disappointing because a vaccine is so close. I would hate to get a covid positive result this month or next and go on to develop a long covid with a vaccine nearly ready to be rolled out.

    Long covid is an outlier, I read between the lines in a NPHET news conference that they regard it as a psychological issue mainly, obviously that opinion will trigger some on here and the I don't even have the woman's name, but that was my take on the answer she gave,basically imo now, time will tell.


  • #1655
    Thats me
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Long covid is an outlier, I read between the lines in a NPHET news conference that they regard it as a psychological issue mainly, obviously that opinion will trigger some on here and the I don't even have the woman's name, but that was my take on the answer she gave,basically imo now, time will tell.



    So many people reading so many different things between the lines.


  • #1656
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Long covid is an outlier, I read between the lines in a NPHET news conference that they regard it as a psychological issue mainly, obviously that opinion will trigger some on here and the I don't even have the woman's name, but that was my take on the answer she gave,basically imo now, time will tell.

    Long Covid is becoming the new Man-Flu?


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  • #1657
    72sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Long covid is an outlier, I read between the lines in a NPHET news conference that they regard it as a psychological issue mainly, obviously that opinion will trigger some on here and the I don't even have the woman's name, but that was my take on the answer she gave,basically imo now, time will tell.

    Consider me triggered :-) The vast vast majority of the psychological issues are going to be due to NPHET's lockdown response to Covid - and not the virus itself. I wonder whatever happened to the speculated physical risks of the virus e.g lung scarring and whatever else they were forewarning about previously. If this report is true then it's a very aggressive stance for NPHET to be taking. Maybe they can't quite believe how submissive the populus has been and are establishing the narrative for the next phases while everyone's still stunned.


  • #1658
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Amazing that long term flu has never made it into our lexicon yet after only a short 11 months long-term Covid has.


    https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/flu-long-term-effects


  • #1659
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,814 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Long Covid is becoming the new Man-Flu?

    Manflu is a scientific fact, men's immune systems are less equipped to deal with flu


  • #1660
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,882 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Widdensushi wrote:
    Long covid is an outlier, I read between the lines in a NPHET news conference that they regard it as a psychological issue mainly, obviously that opinion will trigger some on here and the I don't even have the woman's name, but that was my take on the answer she gave,basically imo now, time will tell.
    I find it hard to believe that an asymptomatic could have psychological issues that would cause long covid.


  • #1661
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,055 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Tork wrote: »
    I'm not so sure. The gains made at the hygiene end may have been lost at the diet and lifestyle end. I have a feeling the off-licences and supermarkets shifted more booze. Then there were people eating snacks, sweets and takeaways at home.
    And many people are exercising more and eating more healthily. I have been eating more healthily but exercising less, so probably no net difference...
    I only have anecdotal evidence of course - presumably you have some more reliable stats?


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  • #1662
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Educate me and us please. Thank you.

    Illiberal right-wing populism


  • #1663
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I find it hard to believe that an asymptomatic could have psychological issues that would cause long covid.

    I'd say you find it hard to believe the earth is not flat, but we all have our problems


  • #1664
    Thats me
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    babaracus wrote: »
    I'd say you find it hard to believe the earth is not flat, but we all have our problems


    I afraid you are slightly under-evaluate people you are discuting with.

    If covid subsequences would be imaginary - why effect this would be specific to covid? How it can be named non-symptomatic if this is covid-specific symptom? Also, we should remember, the poster "Widdensushi" have read this sthi between some lines. I'd presume you are an idiot if you are offending other users on this basis.


  • #1665
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    The deaths from hunger in the world have been sidelined by the Covid deaths of the rich.


  • #1666
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,055 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    The deaths from hunger in the world have been sidelined by the Covid deaths of the rich.
    They were sidelined long before Covid came along, whatever agenda you're pushing.


  • #1667
    Worztron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,978 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Hi. If someone already had CV19 and never realised it (mistook it for a mild cold/flu) - if they then went to get tested a while later (let's say months) - would the test confirm that they had it already? Thanks.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • #1668
    elynam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭elynam


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    Came across a channel from by George hook on YouTube today where he is interviewing alternative voices to the usual group think of Tony houlihan,George lee and the rest of the zero Covid fantatics.he does an interview with dr.feehley whom was fired by the hse for expressing concerns about the whole lockdown dictat.think the channel is called Covid recovery Ireland with George hook

    https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC-3izi8ytMkkYQfb7unpi0Q


  • #1669
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭harr


    Going by the carry on in my local town last night the numbers will rising well before Christmas never mind January. House party’s and pubs full .
    I can understand with people especially younger people who have been cooped up the last few months but I was hoping people taken it easy first weekend back


  • #1670
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Worztron wrote: »
    Hi. If someone already had CV19 and never realised it (mistook it for a mild cold/flu) - if they then went to get tested a while later (let's say months) - would the test confirm that they had it already? Thanks.

    No. The test would find a minuscule amount of Covid and they would be diagnosed as currently having Covid. Go figure.


  • #1671
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    BurgundyRose wrote: »
    Today's cases are not very great. It's sad to see now going into the Christmas period and I'm afraid going forward. I will continue to follow the guidelines and keep contacts low. I am fearful of more spread not only for myself but for others too. Its sad and disappointing because a vaccine is so close. I would hate to get a covid positive result this month or next and go on to develop a long covid with a vaccine nearly ready to be rolled out.

    You are doing the right thing and it IS appreciated by the majority. Unfortunately we have a section of our society who just don't care. They will have their pints, their house parties, their Xmas parties etc... and i absolutely guarantee you they will be the first ones moaning about more restrictions in January and it will be everyone's fault but their own.


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  • #1672
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    You are doing the right thing and it IS appreciated by the majority. Unfortunately we have a section of our society who just don't care. They will have their pints, their house parties, their Xmas parties etc... and i absolutely guarantee you they will be the first ones moaning about more restrictions in January and it will be everyone's fault but their own.

    What a miserable attitude. Why can’t you just stay in yourself at level 5 or whatever and let others enjoy their perfectly compliant nights out without all the begrudged. It’s fairly obvious some people are simply jealous of others social life.


  • #1673
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭Tork


    zerosugarbuzz wrote: »
    What a miserable attitude. Why can’t you just stay in yourself at level 5 or whatever and let others enjoy their perfectly compliant nights out without all the begrudged. It’s fairly obvious some people are simply jealous of others social life.

    Being at Level 5 is a miserable experience too. Especially if you own or work in a business which is forced to close because it's "non-essential".


  • #1674
    elynam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭elynam


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    You are doing the right thing and it IS appreciated by the majority. Unfortunately we have a section of our society who just don't care. They will have their pints, their house parties, their Xmas parties etc... and i absolutely guarantee you they will be the first ones moaning about more restrictions in January and it will be everyone's fault but their own.

    This would be fine if the restrictions 1) worked and 2) produced outcomes no worse than the virus. Unfortunately neither is the case. Lockdowns destroy lives at a much greater rate than Covid. They are corrosive to society and profoundly anti-democratic. Targeted action to increase capacity to handle any surges and highly specific measures to restrict spread make much more sense than full shut downs. Lockdowns also ignore the fact that humans are animals and social ones at that. We need socialisation- and we cannot do it over zoom. Is it any surprise when a degree of freedom returns that people want to see their friends and family? Go for a meal or a pint or a cup of coffee? Go shopping? Not really....


  • #1675
    Ghost Train
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,187 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Worztron wrote: »
    Hi. If someone already had CV19 and never realised it (mistook it for a mild cold/flu) - if they then went to get tested a while later (let's say months) - would the test confirm that they had it already? Thanks.

    No the covid tests only indicate when a person is currently infected. An antibody test could be used to test is they previously had it and now have antibodies as a result. But the PCR and antigen tests are for diagnosing current infections that might be transmissible


  • #1676
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Ghost Train wrote: »
    No the covid tests only indicate when a person is currently infected. An antibody test could be used to test is they previously had it and now have antibodies as a result. But the PCR and antigen tests are for diagnosing current infections that might be transmissible

    Currently infected with what?


  • #1677
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Ghost Train wrote: »
    No the covid tests only indicate when a person is currently infected. An antibody test could be used to test is they previously had it and now have antibodies as a result. But the PCR and antigen tests are for diagnosing current infections that might be transmissible

    Including minuscule particles of dead Covid because they drill down so deep.


  • #1678
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    manniot2 wrote: »
    Currently infected with what?

    Hmm since you posting in this thread, you should know..
    https://subscriptions.boards.ie/

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • #1679
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,581 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    manniot2 wrote: »
    Currently infected with what?

    Ask a grown up.


  • #1680
    elynam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭elynam


    Ghost Train wrote: »
    No the covid tests only indicate when a person is currently infected. An antibody test could be used to test is they previously had it and now have antibodies as a result. But the PCR and antigen tests are for diagnosing current infections that might be transmissible

    Untrue. The PCR amplifies genetic material from the sars cov 2 virus to detect its presence. It runs these amplification cycles in order to detect the viral DNA. Cycles above 35 are likely to detect old and dead virus. Potentially this leads to false positives. So quite easily asymptotic and well people are being told they are positive. The PCR was not designed as a diagnostic test. If you are a Fauci fan he covered this during the summer.

    Antibody and antigen a whole other story.


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  • #1681
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    elynam wrote: »
    Untrue. The PCR amplifies genetic material from the sars cov 2 virus to detect its presence. It runs these amplification cycles in order to detect the viral DNA. Cycles above 35 are likely to detect old and dead virus. Potentially this leads to false positives. So quite easily asymptotic and well people are being told they are positive. The PCR was not designed as a diagnostic test. If you are a Fauci fan he covered this during the summer.

    So if you have something that goes above 35 cycles for a detection you retest the sample to rule out potential the false positive. Unless of course your laboratory is actively trying to inflate the positive numbers. Then you cycle that mothafcker up to 50!


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