Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

Renjit wrote: »

Would you take Coronavirus number provided by Russia at face value? :pac:

Nothing wrong with some healthy scepticism.

Why can’t they just tell us how many added on from the backlog ?

Watching football on sky there, few thousand in the stadium. Why can't we have a few thousand in a stadium double the size. Its ****ing pathetic.

El Sueño wrote: »

It's like all the doomsday predictors, ask them for any sort of reasoning and you won't get a reply.

I asked one such poster their reasons for predicting a January surge in Ireland that will be "by some distance the worst we have seen to date in cases, admissions and deaths" yesterday and surprise surprise I never got a response.

It was invisibly widespread in feb and with a strict enough lockdown and no schools we managed to get the peak under control. Wave 1.

We never really opened up full and yet it started growing slowly in august and accelerated through September into an October peak. Wave 2.

Logic would dictate that we’re opening to about the same extent as during the summer, maybe a little stricter, but starting from ~250 cases a day as opposed to <10, and a good chunk of even the strict folks will relax a bit over Christmas and visit family, etc. Lots of fatigue from this going on almost a year will help with people convincing themselves they need that social outlet or “just a few visits”. Most will be absolutely fine.

At this point I’d like to see evidence of why people don’t think we’ll have another peak in January or February.

niallo27 wrote: »

Watching football on sky there, few thousand in the stadium. Why can't we have a few thousand in a stadium double the size. Its ****ing pathetic.

Because the psychological profile of Irish vs English is different... here we allowed that, it would be all back to each other’s houses after the match. Hanging out together before it. It’s a social event, not compatible with covid

How would Cavan people get to Dublin ? Public and private transport in the main, in close proximity for ages. Zero distancing.

Couldn’t have only Dublin people in attendance.. if that DID happen same problems. So no supporters is the sensible decision.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What happens to the 'disappeared' listed in the OP?

Is this a 'dragged out the back and a hiding behind the shed type deal'?

I haven't seen those users in a while.

I'm worried for their safety.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

you survived so i'm sure theyre fine

Will Citizen survive the week?

If it helps I utilised my survival skills acquired in the Arctic tundra, the deserts of northern Africa and the rainforests of the Amazon.

Strumms wrote: »

Because the psychological profile of Irish vs English is different... here we allowed that, it would be all back to each other’s houses after the match. Hanging out together before it. It’s a social event, not compatible with covid

How would Cavan people get to Dublin ? Public and private transport in the main, in close proximity for ages. Zero distancing.

Couldn’t have only Dublin people in attendance.. if that DID happen same problems. So no supporters is the sensible decision.

As opposed to letting some people enjoy themselves?

What a negative attitude.

Would do some people the world of good to be there today.

And I say that as someone with no interest in Gah.

sonofenoch wrote: »

I read Martin has 'volunteered' to be on of the first for the vaccine..............hold on Mihole I've parents who'd love to jump the queue, and they won't 'volunteer' for tv either

Don't know who wrote what you read but it's not what he said. He said he was willing to be filmed being vaccinated not that he was willing to be among the First. It was in reply to a loaded question, in fairness to him.

Strumms wrote: »

Because the psychological profile of Irish vs English is different... here we allowed that, it would be all back to each other’s houses after the match. Hanging out together before it. It’s a social event, not compatible with covid

How would Cavan people get to Dublin ? Public and private transport in the main, in close proximity for ages. Zero distancing.

Couldn’t have only Dublin people in attendance.. if that DID happen same problems. So no supporters is the sensible decision.

I think you have a massively inflated view of the average English football fan.From my experience they travel in packs,sing in packs, and would drink for hours before and after a match in large groups after emptying the shelves of several off licenses.

Would anyone know the case rate per 100k now? I’m trying to find it but not having much success. Prob not asking google the right Q!

Anyway it’s great to see some life coming back. I’m cautiously joining in, but everyone is different.

ElJeffe wrote: »

13 dead Numbers heading the wrong way going into the Xmas period. Worrying.

This number is people who died with a positive Covid PCR swab test. It does not mean they died from Covid. As we know 93% of people who die with a positive Covid diagnosis have co-morbidities, the disease itself and on its own does not frequently cause death.

Around 80-90 people die in Ireland every day. There are no more deaths this year than any other and in fact age adjusted it’s one of the safest years on record. The hysteria being generated due to the massive group think going on is unnecessary. It needs to stop. We need as a society to calm down and develop reasoned and pragmatic ways of living alongside yet another infectious disease which is not as deadly as is being made out by George Lee, Fergal Bowers and the rest of RTÉ and NPHET. Social distance, wear a mask in close contact situations and practice good hand and respiratory hygiene. That’s as much as we need to do. Get a Vax if you think it will help. Normal life needs to resume - the collateral damage caused to date cannot be repeated.